Skip to comments.Yet another Elysium review: It IS political, and it stinks.
Posted on 08/12/2013 5:56:37 AM PDT by jdsteel
After reading some positive FR reviews I decided to give the movie a try. Yes, the movie is blatantly political. The plot revolves around a mishmash of liberal lunacy about healthcare and immigration. But the worst thing I can say is the movie stinks. Damon's acting is weak. The plot has huge holes in it. The characters are one dimensional. The big fight scene at the end looks like a bad imitation of a WWE fight. Worst of all, the futuristic scenario is not written in a way that has any logic of its own. Sure, I could believe that there is a machine that cures peoples illnesses and the rich folks all have one in their home but there was no good reason given why they didn't have any on earth. It's one thing to believe a factory computer is smart enough to figure out that Damon is stuck in a room that has deadly radiation but another thing to believe it is too dumb to do anything about it other than ring warning bells, or that Damon couldn't have just blocked the door open in the first place. It's one thing to believe that a central computer can control many aspects of Elysium but it is another to believe that the politicians there are stupid enough to have the computer be able to control who is in charge.
Other than True Grit and the Informant....I don’t think Damon can act. Those are the only two movies that I thought he did a good job, but if you ask me....he just plays Matt Damon the character....of each movie.
My 40 year old son went to see the movie. His review - save your $10.
Most of the Hollywood so called A-listers have no talent anyway. They have a luck with talented actors in supporting roles,good script writers and good story.
I saw The Conjuring this weekend. It wasn’t bad as far as horror movies go. It was filmed in the 1970’s and I kind of thought the camera’s they used seemed 1970ish, which added on to the creepiness.
It seemed sort of like an old fashioned movie because it had little or no swearing, nudity, or excessive violence that I can remember. On it, priests were good, and baby killing witches were bad.
Me and a friend would love to make a movie like this except the people on the station are all conservatives and the people down on earth are all liberals.
The planet would quickly go to hell while everything on the station would run like a well oiled machine.
The planet would quickly go to hell while everything on the station would run like a well oiled machine.
Until somebody mentions Abe Lincoln in the station break room.
Conjuring is really good and one of the top box officer earners based on expenses alone. Embarrassingly, the script was actually pitched to us here in L.A. but we passed. I think it was the third draft and we thought it needed more polish.
If Jodie Foster stated it’s political, why should I watch it? I’d rather watch Pacific Rim and don’t listen to the idiot critics, it’s an entertaining popcorn movie that doesn’t inject politics in it. Just robots fighting monsters.
I beklieve I read an article the other day that said people were not flocking to this movie.
The film takes place on both a ravaged Earth and a luxurious space habitat called Elysium. It explores political and sociological themes such as immigration, health care and class issues. When asked whether the film reveals how he sees Earth turning out in 140 years, director Blomkamp responded “No, no, no. This isn’t science fiction. This is today. This is now.”
I saw it just for the action and visuals. The plot is schlock, but whoever designed the visuals on the station was visionary. Wait for it to come out on the cable channels and watch it with the sound off.
As for other movies, I saw the second Percy Jackson film. Though it is about Greek mythology, it had a more believable plot than Elysium.
It's perfectly logical. Rich people are mean. They got rich by being mean. They just want to deny the poor.
Visionary ?? Pal, google “Gerald K. O’Neill” and “L-5”.
That’s a Stanford Torus-type space habitat, and the original design was late 1960s - early 1970s. . .
On the other hand, there's We're the Millers...it's raunchy, crude, oblivious to political and cultural correctness...and hilarious. It's plot actually makes more sense than what happened to the storyline in Eliseum.
I call it visionary because few movies up to now have shown it. I am more preferential to the orbital cylinders (called Sides or Plants)of the Gundam Series.
Those are also a design from the ‘70s. The remake of Lockout with Guy Pearce also had good space visuals of a potential near-future station.
The interesting part of the Elysium colony is the open side. Even if you spin the colony sufficiently to produce ground-level acceleration to simulate gravity, the size of the colony is not large enough to produce the proper breathable air density at ground level. They must leak tons of atmosphere every day.
There was a first?
I have heard that this so-called corporation in the film could not care less about maximizing profits and shareholder value. Sounds more like a government agency.
It was filmed in the 70’s? Or it was set in the 70’s?
Is Pacific Rim just like Battleship but with robots?
Another Hollywood stolen plot.
The Cloud Minders — Star Trek: Season 3, Episode 21
Kirk and Spock are caught up in a revolution on a planet where intellectuals and artists live on a utopian city in the sky while the rest of the population toils in mines on the barren surface below.
I bet the special effects can be good. I saw ads for the Tom Cruise movie... whatsitcalled? His home in the sky they didn’t use a normal blue/green screen but actual HD projections for the scenes outside.
Otherwise the ads made the movie seem like Wall-E as a human. lol
If you like Greek mythology, then is a decent series as far as young adult fiction. The author (Riordan) is trying to re-popularize the myths. It is infinitely better for young adults (like my nieces) to read than Twilight, which should be banned worldwide.
It is also the major plot of the anime and manga series Battle Angel Alita.
And Astroboy. Rich in the clouds and poor scrounging on Earth has been overplayed for years now.
You’re talking entertainment. I’m talking REAL-WORLD designs. . . to actually BUILD these. . . . .
Better. I don’t know why people hate Battleship but I liked it. The only lame ass acting was from Rihanna but the rest is OK.
But your judgement is in question, didn’t you like Sharknado? :p
LOL, I said I’m biased towards Sharknado as I personally know people at Asylum. Believe it or not, they already made a first draft for “World War V”. Guess which film it sounds like...
did they also do the Battle in Los Angeles or whatever it was called, rip off ?
Umm, yeah LOL. They gave me that DVD so I’m not gonna diss them. I still remember my brother from out of state who visited me at work and my nephew saw that DVD, and one of them said “cool! The Battle of L.A. just came out on theaters and you have it on DVD?”. My reply was “ummm, not that Battle of Los Angeles, but more comedic..”
They didn’t show a lot of LA in that particular movie. A much smaller group of “soldiers” too
I wasn't a great fan, but that movie certainly wasn't simplistically propagandistic.
I figured that Blomkamp, a White South African, would probably have a more complicated, nuanced take on politics.
The movie did you a favor. If the film showed the entire L.A. area, you would be scared sh*tless and avoid coming here in real life.
Real world would have to have a full closed ring for a station of that size to hold atmosphere. At least Larry Niven, being an engineer himself, knew that the Ringworld had to have sides miles high to keep in the atmosphere.
Exactly. YOU are talking fictional designs. **I** am talking actual, if rough, designs for actual stations / colonies. . .
You'd think that Jews would vote Republican, too. Sometimes the only answer is "liberalism is a mental disease".
Sometimes the only answer is “liberalism is a mental disease”.
Agreed. In my experience most liberals not only lack reasoning skills but have a complete lack of common sense, and they confuse their education for intelligence. And then so many liberals are so overwhelmed by hysteria that I really wonder whether they are emotionally disturbed or unbalanced if not outright suffering from some mental disease.
I saw it last Saturday. I walked out thinking, “That should have been called ‘Idiocracy: The Prequel.’”
The one-percenters leave the entire planet to billions of people”Here! You can have it! We’re leaving! We’re just taking our stuff with us!”and they can’t figure out what to do with it.
No, the rest of humanity can’t figure it out for themselves, so they have to go on slim-to-no-chance rocket rides to break into the Haves’ tiny ring-world to cure them of whatever ails them.
I loved Matt and his boss at the factory:
Boss: “Aaay! I can’t let ya woik widda busted arm like dat! Off da line!”
Matt: “Aw, c’mon, mang! I gots a cast! I can work! Nooo problem!”
Matt: “Aw, boss! Da door won’t close, mang! Tryin’ ta reset it!”
Boss: “We’re behind schedule! Get in dere and figzit or I’ll find someones WHO WILL!”
Classic. One minute, the boss is looking out for Matt’s welfare, but Matt says he’s tough. The next, boss is practically ordering him to his death (busted arm and all) and Matt just shrugs his shoulders and goes to his doom.
And really? No other place on earth has those magic gizmos standing by in case one of the elite who are slummin’ it on Earth gets an owie and 19 minutes is too long a ride? Right.
Idiocracy: The Prequel!
August 18 weekend update from Box Office Mojo: “Elysium [which cost $115 million to make] narrowly took third place ahead of Planes and Kick-Ass 2. The Matt Damon sci-fi flick fell 54 percent to $13.7 million, and through 10 days has earned $56 million. It currently trails District 9 by around $17 million, and officially has no chance of reaching $100 million.”
So, some rich people build themselves a nice place to live in space, keep the scumbags out, and, for some reason, the scumbags are supposed to be in the right for shooting their way in?
Yeah. Pay attention. There are lots of people who really think this way. Some of ‘em are making Federal policy.
“Pacific Rim” was awesome. Did you or your company have anything to do with it?
“Pacific Rim was awesome. Did you or your company have anything to do with it?”
100% :) (to avoid the trolls, let’s leave it at that)
SyFy could probably save some money if they produce a show in South Korea, those crazy fools make 2 episodes a week working like dogs. They take their drama seriously.
It could be about a single US agent (Bruce Campbell?) and a team of South Korean agents (shouldn’t be too hard to find some who speak English,like Han Ye-Seul) trying to track down a cell of North Korean agents who had a radical American (possibly Chinese-American) Marxist working for them.
We’d need a K-pop cameo, of course, I’m thinking a naive member of a girl band was used as a patsy who would get blamed for “helping” terrorists. (Amber Lui of F(X) who is Chinese-American might be perfect for that)