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Yet another Elysium review: It IS political, and it stinks.
08/12/2013 | jdsteel

Posted on 08/12/2013 5:56:37 AM PDT by jdsteel

After reading some positive FR reviews I decided to give the movie a try. Yes, the movie is blatantly political. The plot revolves around a mishmash of liberal lunacy about healthcare and immigration. But the worst thing I can say is the movie stinks. Damon's acting is weak. The plot has huge holes in it. The characters are one dimensional. The big fight scene at the end looks like a bad imitation of a WWE fight. Worst of all, the futuristic scenario is not written in a way that has any logic of its own. Sure, I could believe that there is a machine that cures peoples illnesses and the rich folks all have one in their home but there was no good reason given why they didn't have any on earth. It's one thing to believe a factory computer is smart enough to figure out that Damon is stuck in a room that has deadly radiation but another thing to believe it is too dumb to do anything about it other than ring warning bells, or that Damon couldn't have just blocked the door open in the first place. It's one thing to believe that a central computer can control many aspects of Elysium but it is another to believe that the politicians there are stupid enough to have the computer be able to control who is in charge.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: damon; elysium
Please don't waste your money like I did.
1 posted on 08/12/2013 5:56:37 AM PDT by jdsteel
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To: jdsteel
It's just a flick, and sounds like a stupid flick at that. Somewhere along the way Hollywood forgot they were supposed to entertain, now they lecture. Anything with Matt Damon is way - WAY! - down my list.
2 posted on 08/12/2013 6:05:06 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: jdsteel

Other than True Grit and the Informant....I don’t think Damon can act. Those are the only two movies that I thought he did a good job, but if you ask me....he just plays Matt Damon the character....of each movie.


3 posted on 08/12/2013 6:05:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: jdsteel

First mistake, NEVER give money to “publik skool but I send my kids to private school” Matt Damon.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 6:06:26 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

My 40 year old son went to see the movie. His review - save your $10.


5 posted on 08/12/2013 6:11:31 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: pepsionice

Most of the Hollywood so called A-listers have no talent anyway. They have a luck with talented actors in supporting roles,good script writers and good story.


6 posted on 08/12/2013 6:11:51 AM PDT by QQQQ
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To: jdsteel

I saw The Conjuring this weekend. It wasn’t bad as far as horror movies go. It was filmed in the 1970’s and I kind of thought the camera’s they used seemed 1970ish, which added on to the creepiness.

It seemed sort of like an old fashioned movie because it had little or no swearing, nudity, or excessive violence that I can remember. On it, priests were good, and baby killing witches were bad.


7 posted on 08/12/2013 6:12:33 AM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: jdsteel

Me and a friend would love to make a movie like this except the people on the station are all conservatives and the people down on earth are all liberals.

The planet would quickly go to hell while everything on the station would run like a well oiled machine.


8 posted on 08/12/2013 6:14:31 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: jdsteel
Maaaaaaaaatt Damon !!!
9 posted on 08/12/2013 6:23:39 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: TheRhinelander
Me and a friend would love to make a movie like this except the people on the station are all conservatives and the people down on earth are all liberals.

The planet would quickly go to hell while everything on the station would run like a well oiled machine.

Until somebody mentions Abe Lincoln in the station break room.

10 posted on 08/12/2013 6:25:34 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MNDude

Conjuring is really good and one of the top box officer earners based on expenses alone. Embarrassingly, the script was actually pitched to us here in L.A. but we passed. I think it was the third draft and we thought it needed more polish.


11 posted on 08/12/2013 6:41:03 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: jdsteel

If Jodie Foster stated it’s political, why should I watch it? I’d rather watch Pacific Rim and don’t listen to the idiot critics, it’s an entertaining popcorn movie that doesn’t inject politics in it. Just robots fighting monsters.


12 posted on 08/12/2013 6:43:55 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: rstrahan

I beklieve I read an article the other day that said people were not flocking to this movie.


13 posted on 08/12/2013 6:49:31 AM PDT by dforest (BR)
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To: jdsteel

The film takes place on both a ravaged Earth and a luxurious space habitat called Elysium. It explores political and sociological themes such as immigration, health care and class issues. When asked whether the film reveals how he sees Earth turning out in 140 years, director Blomkamp responded “No, no, no. This isn’t science fiction. This is today. This is now.”


14 posted on 08/12/2013 6:52:56 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: jdsteel

I saw it just for the action and visuals. The plot is schlock, but whoever designed the visuals on the station was visionary. Wait for it to come out on the cable channels and watch it with the sound off.

As for other movies, I saw the second Percy Jackson film. Though it is about Greek mythology, it had a more believable plot than Elysium.


15 posted on 08/12/2013 6:58:20 AM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: jdsteel
Sure, I could believe that there is a machine that cures peoples illnesses and the rich folks all have one in their home but there was no good reason given why they didn't have any on earth.

It's perfectly logical. Rich people are mean. They got rich by being mean. They just want to deny the poor.

</liberal logic>

16 posted on 08/12/2013 7:10:14 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (No I'm just being a punk.)
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To: Seraphicaviary

Visionary ?? Pal, google “Gerald K. O’Neill” and “L-5”.

That’s a Stanford Torus-type space habitat, and the original design was late 1960s - early 1970s. . .


17 posted on 08/12/2013 9:04:00 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: jdsteel
The premise of the movie was that the 1% of the population of a destroyed and overpopulated earth controls the other 99% and doesn't need all that many of them for survival. Then it becomes a Hollywood fiasco about blowing things up and having fights. There's no resolution to the premise...it just goes Hollyweird.

On the other hand, there's We're the Millers...it's raunchy, crude, oblivious to political and cultural correctness...and hilarious. It's plot actually makes more sense than what happened to the storyline in Eliseum.

18 posted on 08/12/2013 9:16:29 AM PDT by grania
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To: Salgak

I call it visionary because few movies up to now have shown it. I am more preferential to the orbital cylinders (called Sides or Plants)of the Gundam Series.

Those are also a design from the ‘70s. The remake of Lockout with Guy Pearce also had good space visuals of a potential near-future station.

The interesting part of the Elysium colony is the open side. Even if you spin the colony sufficiently to produce ground-level acceleration to simulate gravity, the size of the colony is not large enough to produce the proper breathable air density at ground level. They must leak tons of atmosphere every day.


19 posted on 08/12/2013 9:55:36 AM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: Seraphicaviary
I saw the second Percy Jackson film.

There was a first?

20 posted on 08/12/2013 11:12:13 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: jdsteel

I have heard that this so-called corporation in the film could not care less about maximizing profits and shareholder value. Sounds more like a government agency.


21 posted on 08/12/2013 11:14:11 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: MNDude

It was filmed in the 70’s? Or it was set in the 70’s?


22 posted on 08/12/2013 11:16:27 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: max americana

Is Pacific Rim just like Battleship but with robots?


23 posted on 08/12/2013 11:17:38 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: MNDude

Another Hollywood stolen plot.

The Cloud Minders — Star Trek: Season 3, Episode 21

Kirk and Spock are caught up in a revolution on a planet where intellectuals and artists live on a utopian city in the sky while the rest of the population toils in mines on the barren surface below.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708456/


24 posted on 08/12/2013 11:19:37 AM PDT by rocksblues (The Obama administration the most unlawful, corrupt administration in US history.)
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To: Seraphicaviary

I bet the special effects can be good. I saw ads for the Tom Cruise movie... whatsitcalled? His home in the sky they didn’t use a normal blue/green screen but actual HD projections for the scenes outside.

Otherwise the ads made the movie seem like Wall-E as a human. lol


25 posted on 08/12/2013 11:19:56 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: hattend

If you like Greek mythology, then is a decent series as far as young adult fiction. The author (Riordan) is trying to re-popularize the myths. It is infinitely better for young adults (like my nieces) to read than Twilight, which should be banned worldwide.


26 posted on 08/12/2013 12:14:25 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: rocksblues

It is also the major plot of the anime and manga series Battle Angel Alita.


27 posted on 08/12/2013 12:16:45 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: Seraphicaviary

And Astroboy. Rich in the clouds and poor scrounging on Earth has been overplayed for years now.


28 posted on 08/12/2013 12:20:14 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: Seraphicaviary

You’re talking entertainment. I’m talking REAL-WORLD designs. . . to actually BUILD these. . . . .


29 posted on 08/12/2013 1:52:50 PM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: GeronL

Better. I don’t know why people hate Battleship but I liked it. The only lame ass acting was from Rihanna but the rest is OK.


30 posted on 08/12/2013 2:20:35 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

But your judgement is in question, didn’t you like Sharknado? :p

//sarcasm


31 posted on 08/12/2013 2:22:08 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

LOL, I said I’m biased towards Sharknado as I personally know people at Asylum. Believe it or not, they already made a first draft for “World War V”. Guess which film it sounds like...


32 posted on 08/12/2013 2:24:52 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

lol

did they also do the Battle in Los Angeles or whatever it was called, rip off ?


33 posted on 08/12/2013 2:30:28 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: All
My All Time Favorite Matt Damon Movie Scene:

The last scene from:"The Departed"

34 posted on 08/12/2013 2:38:14 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: GeronL

Umm, yeah LOL. They gave me that DVD so I’m not gonna diss them. I still remember my brother from out of state who visited me at work and my nephew saw that DVD, and one of them said “cool! The Battle of L.A. just came out on theaters and you have it on DVD?”. My reply was “ummm, not that Battle of Los Angeles, but more comedic..”


35 posted on 08/12/2013 2:52:14 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

lol.

They didn’t show a lot of LA in that particular movie. A much smaller group of “soldiers” too


36 posted on 08/12/2013 2:53:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: jdsteel
Well, okay, but Blomkamp did show a lot of potential with District 9.

I wasn't a great fan, but that movie certainly wasn't simplistically propagandistic.

I figured that Blomkamp, a White South African, would probably have a more complicated, nuanced take on politics.

37 posted on 08/12/2013 3:15:11 PM PDT by x
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To: GeronL

The movie did you a favor. If the film showed the entire L.A. area, you would be scared sh*tless and avoid coming here in real life.


38 posted on 08/12/2013 3:28:05 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

lolz


39 posted on 08/12/2013 3:29:12 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Salgak

Real world would have to have a full closed ring for a station of that size to hold atmosphere. At least Larry Niven, being an engineer himself, knew that the Ringworld had to have sides miles high to keep in the atmosphere.


40 posted on 08/13/2013 4:55:28 AM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: Seraphicaviary

Exactly. YOU are talking fictional designs. **I** am talking actual, if rough, designs for actual stations / colonies. . .


41 posted on 08/13/2013 4:57:48 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: x
I figured that Blomkamp, a White South African, would probably have a more complicated, nuanced take on politics.

You'd think that Jews would vote Republican, too. Sometimes the only answer is "liberalism is a mental disease".

42 posted on 08/14/2013 8:41:12 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: jdsteel

Sometimes the only answer is “liberalism is a mental disease”.

Agreed. In my experience most liberals not only lack reasoning skills but have a complete lack of common sense, and they confuse their education for intelligence. And then so many liberals are so overwhelmed by hysteria that I really wonder whether they are emotionally disturbed or unbalanced if not outright suffering from some mental disease.


43 posted on 08/14/2013 8:44:38 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: jdsteel

I saw it last Saturday. I walked out thinking, “That should have been called ‘Idiocracy: The Prequel.’”

The one-percenters leave the entire planet to billions of people—”Here! You can have it! We’re leaving! We’re just taking our stuff with us!”—and they can’t figure out what to do with it.

No, the rest of humanity can’t figure it out for themselves, so they have to go on slim-to-no-chance rocket rides to break into the Haves’ tiny ring-world to cure them of whatever ails them.

I loved Matt and his boss at the factory:

Boss: “Aaay! I can’t let ya woik widda busted arm like dat! Off da line!”

Matt: “Aw, c’mon, mang! I gots a cast! I can work! Nooo problem!”

Later...

Matt: “Aw, boss! Da door won’t close, mang! Tryin’ ta reset it!”

Boss: “We’re behind schedule! Get in dere and figzit or I’ll find someones WHO WILL!”

Classic. One minute, the boss is looking out for Matt’s welfare, but Matt says he’s tough. The next, boss is practically ordering him to his death (busted arm and all) and Matt just shrugs his shoulders and goes to his doom.

And really? No other place on earth has those magic gizmos standing by in case one of the elite who are slummin’ it on Earth gets an owie and 19 minutes is too long a ride? Right.

Idiocracy: The Prequel!


44 posted on 08/14/2013 11:44:24 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: jdsteel

August 18 weekend update from Box Office Mojo: “Elysium [which cost $115 million to make] narrowly took third place ahead of Planes and Kick-Ass 2. The Matt Damon sci-fi flick fell 54 percent to $13.7 million, and through 10 days has earned $56 million. It currently trails District 9 by around $17 million, and officially has no chance of reaching $100 million.”


45 posted on 08/19/2013 3:31:02 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Dallas59

So, some rich people build themselves a nice place to live in space, keep the scumbags out, and, for some reason, the scumbags are supposed to be in the right for shooting their way in?
Yeah. Pay attention. There are lots of people who really think this way. Some of ‘em are making Federal policy.


46 posted on 08/19/2013 3:35:30 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: max americana

“Pacific Rim” was awesome. Did you or your company have anything to do with it?


47 posted on 08/19/2013 3:36:34 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

““Pacific Rim” was awesome. Did you or your company have anything to do with it?”

100% :) (to avoid the trolls, let’s leave it at that)


48 posted on 08/19/2013 6:58:17 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

SyFy could probably save some money if they produce a show in South Korea, those crazy fools make 2 episodes a week working like dogs. They take their drama seriously.

It could be about a single US agent (Bruce Campbell?) and a team of South Korean agents (shouldn’t be too hard to find some who speak English,like Han Ye-Seul) trying to track down a cell of North Korean agents who had a radical American (possibly Chinese-American) Marxist working for them.

We’d need a K-pop cameo, of course, I’m thinking a naive member of a girl band was used as a patsy who would get blamed for “helping” terrorists. (Amber Lui of F(X) who is Chinese-American might be perfect for that)


49 posted on 08/19/2013 7:10:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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