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More Americans Going Galt
Townhall.com ^ | August 12, 2013 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 08/12/2013 8:51:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

President Obama promised he would unite the world…and he’s right.

Representatives from dozens of nations have bitterly complained about an awful piece of legislation, called the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA), that was enacted back in 2010.

They despise this unjust law because it extends the power of the IRS into the domestic affairs of other nations. That’s an understandable source of conflict, which should be easy to understand. Wouldn’t all of us get upset, after all, if the French government or Russian government wanted to impose their laws on things that take place within our borders?

But it’s not just foreign governments that are irked. The law is so bad that it is causing a big uptick in the number of Americans who are giving up their citizenship.

Here are some details from a Bloomberg report.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; aynrand; bhofascism; corruption; democrats; galt; goinggalt; govtabuse; irs; obama; tyranny

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1 posted on 08/12/2013 8:51:22 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This guy would fudge up a two car funeral.

Then he would blame it on someone else. Probably the stiff.


2 posted on 08/12/2013 8:59:38 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Kaslin

“Going Galt: Surviving Economic Armageddon”
I’m deeply involved in Going Galt, both as a personal lifestyle and writing on the subject. It’s the only way out given the collapsing welfare state, demographics and changing global technology.
http://www.futurnamics.com/goinggalt.php


3 posted on 08/12/2013 9:02:19 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Venturer

We need to reform both our individual tax laws and corporate taxes to make individual american’s more competitive in the overseas job market and corporations more competitive. Even the socialist countries of Europe have better tax laws for their citizens and corporations working outside their borders.
Our tax policy means that american’s are at a tax disadvantage versus others in seeking jobs overseas. And that means more unemployed american’s and it means more foreign employees working for US companies overseas. Most other countries give the companies an option to retrieve their overseas profits with low taxes..to the advantage of their country..rather than forcing companies to keep profits overseas.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 9:05:50 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Kaslin

If I can find ways to starve the beast without sacrificing my standard of living I am OK. But i won’t have these leftists or anyone control my lifestyle.


5 posted on 08/12/2013 9:18:29 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Kaslin

“Representatives from dozens of nations have bitterly complained about an awful piece of legislation, called the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA), that was enacted back in 2010.”

They couldn’t go one further and call it the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of Tomorrow (FATCAT)?


6 posted on 08/12/2013 9:20:37 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: Oldexpat
Given the horrible amount of debt and the out-of-control deficit spending, please clarify your call for tax reform...

Does your concept of tax reform mean:

a. more tax revenues for the government?
b. about the same tax revenues?
c. less tax revenues?

7 posted on 08/12/2013 9:29:01 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Kaslin

FATCA is the kind of legislation - buried intentionally by the malefactors in a larger bill - that senior Republicans never even bother to read. Then they wonder why, despite Obama’s disasters, nobody takes them seriously.


8 posted on 08/12/2013 9:32:39 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Kaslin
Past Federal Court rulings have said that the government does not have to grant your request to renounce your US Citizenship.

And I have a sneaking suspicion that, increasingly, they won't.


9 posted on 08/12/2013 9:33:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Some of us are going Galt without having to leave the country. It can be done.


10 posted on 08/12/2013 9:33:54 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Kaslin

Many are starting to renounce their citizenship - and many more wish they could.

Obama is the President of lower class blacks and white liberal elites - everyone else is screwed.


11 posted on 08/12/2013 9:35:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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To: jurroppi1

I like your acronym (FATCAT) but replace the word ‘tomorrow’ with ‘tyranny’.


12 posted on 08/12/2013 9:36:15 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Past Federal Court rulings have said that the government does not have to grant your request to renounce your US Citizenship.

Which effectively says you are the property of the US government.

What kind of legal claptrap is required to come up with that?

13 posted on 08/12/2013 9:56:46 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
Americans renouncing U.S. citizenship surged sixfold in the second quarter from a year earlier … The U.S. is the only nation in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development that taxes citizens wherever they reside.



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14 posted on 08/12/2013 10:01:17 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: MeganC
"Some of us are going Galt without having to leave the country. It can be done."

Yes. Resistance takes many forms.

15 posted on 08/12/2013 10:19:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Kaslin

Impeachment File on Communist, Benghazi Coward “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, currently a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


16 posted on 08/12/2013 10:37:50 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Kaslin

I wonder when these same countries will extend their policy to bonds and other securities sold by the FUSA.

It’s now clear that countries wanting to organize and trade in other currencies are the result of stupid laws like this, rather than a desire to undermine the U.S. or increase the stature of their currencies.


17 posted on 08/12/2013 11:27:05 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DaxtonBrown
I’m deeply involved in Going Galt, both as a personal lifestyle and writing on the subject.

Same here. It is no great hardship to live on an income below that at which one must file a tax return. For some, it is. I reserve my contempt for those selfish shirkers who won't do anything whatsoever, for the sake of America.

No one said it better than Sam Adams: "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

18 posted on 08/12/2013 11:58:38 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: Joe Brower

Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God....

Compliance to Tyrants is Obedience to Moloch!!!


19 posted on 08/12/2013 12:05:01 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Right Brother

It can’t be named in a blatantly truthful manner though. The name has to appear to mean something nice and pleasurable, not what it actually is...

You know, like the affordable care act (aka obamacare).


20 posted on 08/12/2013 12:19:58 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: DaxtonBrown

http://www.futurnamics.com/goinggalt.php

It’s a great site. Some reconsideration of homebuilt alternative energy systems could be of help, though. Without the middlemen and unneeded permitting and inspectors, some systems work to cut costs and could even extend survivability.

Only a few examples for northern living:

[A good system for knowledge entry.]
http://www.builditsolar.com/Experimental/PEXColDHW/Overview.htm

[A little more thought and installation for more savings.]
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/SpaceHeating/DHWplusSpace/Main.htm

For sunny areas, PV solar electric systems can save money for those who install themselves after choosing components wisely and frugally (assuming safety steps and NEC are learned and followed).

For windy areas (not many places like my area), a homebuilt design can withstand what commercial designs cannot.

http://otherpower.com/turbineplans.html
(tutorial links on the left side of the page)

There are also options in other technologies.

Granted, the political/regulator class doesn’t like such activities. They don’t have the skills and don’t want others to have them (detractions from their investments of recirculating debt), but there are good legal ways around every obstacle. Onward to discovering the original meaning of technocracy (government by the technically inclined).


21 posted on 08/12/2013 12:28:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: DaxtonBrown

With “middlemen,” by the way, I was referring to installers and other experts.


22 posted on 08/12/2013 12:30:03 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: GOPJ
Obama is the President of lower class blacks and white liberal elites - everyone else is screwed.

Give the First Golfer some credit. He wants to be _Resident of millions of ignorant, hardcore socialist, anti-American campesinos from southern Mexico, too.

23 posted on 08/12/2013 12:54:49 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: HomeAtLast
"Same here. It is no great hardship to live on an income below that at which one must file a tax return. For some, it is. I reserve my contempt for those selfish shirkers who won't do anything whatsoever, for the sake of America."

How many of the folks with fatter cash flows directly or indirectly from debt/revenues (nearly everyone with a higher income) change a transmission or engine from time to time, make something from steel, do any worthwhile agriculture, do some electrical work or build something more than a shed? Now, I sometimes teach younger people how to those things for themselves.

NIMBYs with government incomes and pensions see real men as the enemy ("ahhhh! Males, working! Stop them! Do something! Pass another regulation!") and publicly say that they're worthless. How many political browbeating folks have the skills to do the things mentioned above? None. They hire drunken potheads or starving third-world men capable of doing those kinds of work in order to afford more time for socializing and gossip.

The ongoing default process is most likely what we need, in my opinion. Maybe it'll straighten many people up, as the Depression did.


24 posted on 08/12/2013 12:55:52 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: jurroppi1

They could complain under the WTO rules...America’s politicians have always locked our rear ends into the receiving position when the WTO has ruled against us!


25 posted on 08/12/2013 1:32:14 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Ping

Bfl


26 posted on 08/12/2013 1:38:20 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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To: Scooter100
a. more tax revenues for the government?

Letting productive people reinvest more of the wealth they generate will very quickly increase the amount of wealth generated. Even if one ignores the effects that tax codes have on people's motivations, a productive person who is taxed heavily will reinvest less wealth into future production than he would if taxed less heavily, if nothing else for the simple reason that he can't reinvest money the taxman takes from him and he doesn't have anymore. Tax relief which is aimed at productive citizens can often be revenue-positive within a year. If Democrats are allowed to use that increased revenue as an excuse to increase spending that may cause budget deficits, but it's not the tax cuts that are at fault.

27 posted on 08/12/2013 3:29:34 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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