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Analyst: End of Bundled Cable Will Kill Over 80 Channels (CNN, MSNBC, and MTV included in 80)
Brietbart ^ | August 12, 2013 | John Nolte

Posted on 08/12/2013 6:47:57 PM PDT by upbeat5

With streaming television becoming more and more popular, and providers like Aereo making an end-run around cable and satellite providers, a lot of attention is being paid to the future of bundled cable. In a world of growing choices and a weak, jobless economy, how long can something last that charges customers a ton of money for dozens of channels they never watch? Bundled cable is, in my opinion, one of the greatest hustles ever perpetuated against the American people. The worst part is how it works as a kind of affirmative-action program for left-wing programming that likely wouldn’t survive in a world where we weren't forced to pay for channels we never watch. Chief among them, CNN, and MSNBC. As this discussion heats up, analysts and experts are fessing up that in a world without bundled cable, only 20 television networks would survive (that means that around 80 would not). Presumably, the survivors would be the twenty most-watched channels throughout the cable world. This would be terrible news for CNN, MSNBC, and HLN -- networks that usually rank in the thirties and forties. Fox News is usually in the top 5.

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1 posted on 08/12/2013 6:47:57 PM PDT by upbeat5
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To: upbeat5

A LA Cart. Period


2 posted on 08/12/2013 6:49:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: upbeat5
It should be served up ala-carte style with maybe some basic packages to build upon.
3 posted on 08/12/2013 6:50:06 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: upbeat5
Chief among them, CNN, and MSNBC

And the down side is?

4 posted on 08/12/2013 6:51:05 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Geez, that would wipe out much of the DNC’s campaign arm.


5 posted on 08/12/2013 6:53:01 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: upbeat5

Maybe someday we will be able to subscribe to conservative channels, if there were any. Without having to subsdize all the leftist crap


6 posted on 08/12/2013 6:53:06 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: upbeat5

The less popular channels would simply have to raise their price :p


7 posted on 08/12/2013 6:53:52 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: upbeat5

Let the devil take the hindmost. If there is a market, it will be subscription or ppv.


8 posted on 08/12/2013 6:54:09 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When there is no penalty for failure, failures proliferate." George F. Will)
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To: upbeat5

It’s not just cable, we have bundled satellite also and then there is Verizon and Uverse.


9 posted on 08/12/2013 6:55:00 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: upbeat5

Meh. I dumped TV in ‘97. Cable TV is SOOOOOO 20th century.


10 posted on 08/12/2013 6:55:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Let the devil take the hindmost.


I agree. This will cull the herd.


11 posted on 08/12/2013 6:56:21 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: eyedigress

Yup. With the way it is, every single ‘conservative with cable/dish is willfully funding the left. Same goes for movie goers for the most part.

They have gits when someone mentions it, but the truth is in the math.


12 posted on 08/12/2013 6:56:32 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: upbeat5
There aren't more than a dozen channels that I watch.Ever.All the other channels I'm paying for can disappear for all I care.
13 posted on 08/12/2013 6:56:41 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: Gay State Conservative

For instance, I never watch any of the Spanish channels...


14 posted on 08/12/2013 6:58:55 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: BipolarBob

coming soon -— and how many people would CHOSE to pay even $1 a month for MSNBC, etc?


15 posted on 08/12/2013 6:59:16 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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I love the idea of ala carte channels but it would seriously shut down 70 channels. I can’t imagine there is the viewership for Oprah, the dedicated chick channels, the spanish language channels, the black channels and the four gay channels, and the lefty news outlets enough to keep them in business.


16 posted on 08/12/2013 7:00:53 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: upbeat5

Oh, if it kills the leftist propaganda channels, it’ll never happen. Being carried by conservatives is the only life they understand. Though, I’m sure they don’t think of it in those terms. This deal for example; if they realize it would disproportionately hurt the leftist lie mills, they’d be against it because it would be “censorship” or “discriminatory against minority views” or “disenfranchising”, you know, some excuse where the problem isn’t that they’re afraid to have their idea compete on their merits but somehow, everyone else must be forced to subsidize their crap or it just wouldn’t be fair. Somehow.


17 posted on 08/12/2013 7:01:31 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: eccentric

Probably not enough to keep it going


18 posted on 08/12/2013 7:02:10 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: glorgau

Por qué no?


19 posted on 08/12/2013 7:02:12 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: upbeat5
"... analysts and experts are fessing up that in a world without bundled cable, only 20 television networks would survive..."

Which 20? What channel would YOU pay for and how much?

20 posted on 08/12/2013 7:02:18 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: upbeat5

I have Roku and while not perfect it is bit by bit adding new channels that I find interesting and will watch.
Ala Carte is the way of the future on cable and the internet.
I suspect that I will get all of the channels I wish to watch over Roku and pay either next to nothing for them or they will be free.


21 posted on 08/12/2013 7:02:50 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: upbeat5

Comcast has announced that they’ll be adding Al Jazeera and raising my rates to pay for it.


22 posted on 08/12/2013 7:03:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cuban leaf

my neighbor cut cable and dish 3 years ago. If he wanted to watch sports, he can get it anywhere on the web for free. If he wanted a specific show, just download using torrent. No biggie and he’s happier saving $100 on a bundle per month.


23 posted on 08/12/2013 7:03:42 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: upbeat5

There are several misnomers about bundled pricing. Sure, it won’t make everyone happy but what cable watchers think is a fair price for the cable channels their family *does* watch, added together comes out more than most people pay for standard cable.

I like mostly news and sports but sports channels a la carte would be very expensive because of all the rights fees they charge to be carried and because I want to see my teams play in the NFL, I would be forced to have CBS, FOX and NBC along with ESPN and NFLN just to catch every game my team plays (there’s Sunday Ticket but the local broadcasts over the air are blacked out on that).

Most people who hate bundling love to complain about the shopping channels and the religious channels. Well, here’s a secret. They not only cost you nothing they subsidize the rates you do pay. Shopping channels and religious channels PAY the cable operator to carry them. Scratch those off and your cost per channel actually goes up, not down.

Sure, some people would love to only pay for the channels they watch but it would not be nearly the bargain you think it might be if you went on the faulty premise that all channels cost the same.


24 posted on 08/12/2013 7:04:16 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: BipolarBob
after reading your statement and seeing your name...It made me think....*W*..Ive decided to open a restaurant where the food is reasonably cheap...but the silverware will cost u a fortune...Why someone hasn't used this business model yrs ago is beyond me!
25 posted on 08/12/2013 7:07:47 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Still Thinking
Those channels get a few cents a month from each cable-satellite subscriber whether you watch them or not

This includes CCTV4 (commie China), Bridges-TV (Muslim Beheader Television), Current/Pivot and others.

26 posted on 08/12/2013 7:08:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: max americana
@0 Seriously? I watched maybe 3 when I had it. The rest are leftist dribble. Hell one of the 3 was C-Span for book reviews. I will not get cable unless it is al-la-cart. No way I pay for the gay channels. That includes the Homo and Garden channel.
27 posted on 08/12/2013 7:08:33 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: upbeat5

50 percent have basic cable the other’s watch regular TV.Basic and Premiums are losing payers because of jobs.I don’t care who wins.


28 posted on 08/12/2013 7:08:50 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: eccentric

40% of the money paid to cable channels go to sports channels


29 posted on 08/12/2013 7:08:50 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: OrangeHoof

I assume you realize most all NFL games can be viewed (illegally like in Edward Snowden) on the internet from European wagering sites?


30 posted on 08/12/2013 7:08:55 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: jimpick

So... no LOGO or BRAVO for you then?


31 posted on 08/12/2013 7:10:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: nascarnation

It might not sound like a lot, but there are tens of millions of cable and satellite subscribers out there. 90% of Americans have some kind of pay TV.

We are subsidizing this leftist drivell

32 posted on 08/12/2013 7:12:54 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: upbeat5

I would love to ditch time Warner cable. $145 per month. All I really need is local, Fox News , some financial channels and local channels. How do you cut the cable.


33 posted on 08/12/2013 7:13:01 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

If someone launches a conservative channel, will ROKU carry it?


34 posted on 08/12/2013 7:13:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: cripplecreek

how many cents per month are they going to give to Al Jazeera?


35 posted on 08/12/2013 7:14:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: eyedigress
The worst part is how it works as a kind of affirmative-action program for left-wing programming that likely wouldn’t survive in a world where we weren't forced to pay for channels we never watch. Chief among them, CNN, and MSNBC.

It's bad enough my tax dollars are siphoned off for PBS and NPR - left wing 'public' media. But insult to injury when I have to re-support them in order to get cable. It's time... for pay per channel...

36 posted on 08/12/2013 7:14:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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To: GeronL

9() percent is not a real number.Where did you get that from?


37 posted on 08/12/2013 7:15:00 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: upbeat5
Bundled cable is, in my opinion, one of the greatest hustles ever perpetuated against the American people.

Bundles and packages are sold all the time and are generally less expensive than buying a la carte. I never order a la carte at restaurants. So the premise is absurd. However the lead-in is correct. Internet based programming has killed cable. It is less expensive without commercials. Internet based programming is not a la carte. Netflix and Amazon each contain a bundle of all sorts of content wrapped together as a package and included in the monthly fee.

It is not a matter of bundles vs a la carte. The entire content model has changed from cable broadcast + DVR/time shifted to internet packaged content by different service providers, e.g. netflix, amazon, etc.

Too many commercials on basic cable packages and expensive movie channel bundles of low quality trash content, e.g., HBO. People are just finding other ways to get their entertainment besides the old cable broadcast model.

38 posted on 08/12/2013 7:15:15 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: glorgau
You should...
39 posted on 08/12/2013 7:16:24 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: jimpick

LOL I rarely watch any channel, believe me as I’m busy even during night time especially in my industry here in L.A. I think the only channel my GF watches religiously is the Cooking Channel. The Homo garden, Fago or Bravo whatever you call it, they are not required.


40 posted on 08/12/2013 7:16:51 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: GeronL

I don’t know but its going to cost me nearly $10 per month to add a channel I don’t intend to watch.


41 posted on 08/12/2013 7:17:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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42 posted on 08/12/2013 7:17:27 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: eyedigress

Bump what you said. The technology has been in place for at least a decade.


43 posted on 08/12/2013 7:17:31 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: fatima

http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/reports/2012/cross-platform-report-q3-2011.html

“” Consumers are staying connected. The vast majority (90.4%) of U.S. TV households pay for a TV subscription (cable, telephone company or satellite), while roughly three-quarters (75.3%) opt for broadband Internet. “”

Nielson could be full of crap I guess


44 posted on 08/12/2013 7:17:55 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: upbeat5

In some ways, cable bundling is worse that British-style fees. We already pay for PBS and, via cable bundles, we are also paying for the extremist leftoids who dominate the media.


45 posted on 08/12/2013 7:18:58 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: max americana

I got rid of TV too

there is so much online you can watch and learn

besides TV shows and movies, there are a ton of YouTube videos on how to do things- I learned hour to pour concrete to resurface my garage floor, epoxy the floor
refinish the basement, re-do roofing, buikd a fire with my bare hands, garden for crops, survival techniques, etc. etc.


46 posted on 08/12/2013 7:19:23 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: cripplecreek

$10?

That ain’t all about Al Jazeera, Al Jazeera would be insanely lucky to get 15-20 cents a month from you. That is just an excuse to jack up your rates.


47 posted on 08/12/2013 7:19:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: upbeat5
When you remove merit from television, what we are seeing now is what we get -- cultural, left-wing rot.

Same with our horrible left wing subsidized 'art'... The ONE thing leftest are great at - the ONLY thing they're great at - is lining their pockets with 'public' money.

Then again I'm sure elite liberals wouldn't mind paying for 200 conservative channels so they could watch the 8 channels they like... /s

48 posted on 08/12/2013 7:20:07 PM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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To: AD from SpringBay; GOPJ

Think about why they don’t do it.


49 posted on 08/12/2013 7:20:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: upbeat5

Cancelled the cable in January. There are other ways to be entertained or watch/listen to television. Plus the reception with the antenna plus the HD TV is soooooo much clearer.


50 posted on 08/12/2013 7:20:12 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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