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To: nathanbedford
Secession or Singapore.
8 posted on 08/12/2013 7:59:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When I first started spending time here in Germany 25 years ago I used to be quite smug as an American believing that the Germans had sold out individual liberty for group security. I used to say that they have taken the wrong lessons from World War II and favored the state over the individual in virtually every instance. I liked to point out to my German neighbors the idea that individual liberty was the foundation stone of the American experience.

I do not any longer feel the facts on the ground in American justify me in saying any of these things anymore. I no longer believe the people in Germany are less free than people in America. I no longer believe that America is substantially more free than Germany. I don't think I have changed.

God help us one and all.


14 posted on 08/12/2013 8:05:17 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Secession or Singapore.

I think secession is inevitable eventually. We're on the same path as the USSR.

15 posted on 08/12/2013 8:05:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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