Skip to comments.BREAKING: FAA: UPS jet crashes in Birmingham, Ala.
Posted on 08/14/2013 4:26:40 AM PDT by The Working ManEdited on 08/14/2013 5:40:11 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) A federal aviation official says a large UPS cargo plane has crashed near an airport in Birmingham, Ala.
Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen tells The Associated Press that the A300 plane crashed on approach to the airport before dawn Wednesday. [snip]
No other details at this time
That’s a big FN plane. Hopefully, it was a relatively unpopulated area.
I think in the US they fly cargo mainly these days but not commercially with any carrier. Someone can correct me on that.
Libyan Sa-7/SA-18/S-24 MANPADs?
I meant the aircraft. The A300. Does any US carrier fly them commercially?
The last two hits on flight aware seem to show they were fast and descending at a shallow rate at 1,500 ft above ground (normally that’s about 5 miles out)
Ah. I’m not sure. I know FedEx has a bunch of them. Not sure about any passenger airlines.
I must admit that the thought did cross my mind. Especially with the reports about Benghazi and a reported 400 Manpads having been ‘disappeared’.
Short of runway? Photos:
Thanks, I can look at the chart, but I can’t eyeball it and make sense of it all.
I’m guessing it would probably take more than one to bring it down.
A lot of big storms and bad weather down here in Alabama the yesterday and last night. Probably weather related.
Update says two bodies found. Very sad.
Dammit. That’s awful.
I agree, my wife is friends with a couple of women whose husbands are pilots for UPS. Lot of Praying going on right now.
Prayers for all involved... :(
Sad, family of the crew might just be waking up to the news and hear it from media first.
I wonder if the tower had an idea there was a problem?
I do wonder out loud about the Libyan MANPADS and if this was a test run.
It was. AL.com has a live feed. It is out in a large field/pasture area. I can see one farm silo off to the right, lots of trees.
Did cross my mind too.
Crash site in relation to airport. (plane not lined up?)
Mostly businesses in the area. Reports said it crashed in a field...no reports of casualties on the ground. Even though I was asleep and 12 or so miles from the crash I don't think we were having any bad weather at the time. Light rain and clouds, no thunderstorms.
Yup. Pics coming in now are daylight pics and it looks pretty much like pastureland.
May have been weather related. Radar showing storms in that area.
AA flew the A-300 early in the decade; recall the crash after takeoff from JFK in 2001..
Feel so bad for those families and crew.
Looking at the flight chart, I see within minutes of the crash, several approx 3-4 thousand drops in altitude. I guess I’d need to check the history to see if that is a normal approach to that airport.
Wind shear possibly? no delays reported at the airport, no warnings either? (at least on flightaware)
The pictures of the plane in the field are eerily reminiscent of the recent Denzel Washington movie, “Flight.”
Possibel..but I think Atlanta has Doppler which would have picked it up..
Likely weather related but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a shoulder fired missile. It's been almost a year since they say 400 have gotten into the hands of Jihadists. Time enough for some to make it inside the US it would seem to me. They like to strike when and where it's least expected.
The flightaware screen was showing storms to the west at the time of crash, with just light showers around the airport.
They weren’t lined up with the runway which looks to be SW/NE and the crash site is about (eyeballing) 1/2 mile or so to the north.
Exactly. If that happens to be the case, the Administration is laying down the fire on board theory and all supporting MSM stories right now.
A sad ping to the Alabama ping list.
If anyone wants to be added or deleted from this list, please let me know.
Yep, another flight 800 cover up in the works if that’s the case.
But why hit a cargo plane? Terrorists want the maximum body count..
If there is the slightest suspicion of terrorist activity, we need to stay on this. No more TWA800 swept under the rug.
I’m not seeing terrorism or conspiracy behind every accident. Just saying we need to look closely and not be led like sheep - in either direction.
I'm guessing the cause of the crash is likely weather related. To answer your question, its hard to tell cargo planes from passenger planes, especially when it's dark. Both are large planes. Another possibility is there could have been something onboard in the cargo, that caused the crash.
The Airbus 300 series is both in passenger and cargo configurations depending on the model number!!! The A330 aircraft has been in service for many years, and is an extemely safe aircraft. The Birmingham Airport is located close to downtown Birmingham, but the surrounding area is not congested on the ground. Hope for the best....does not sound good!!!
Went down outside airport perimeter fence. (this article says)
This article has good graphics (of approach, 3-D) and some early pics of crash, description of plane, how old, etc.
Wow... It clearly impacted that berm.
In FAA terminology:
“an unscheduled landing resulting in collision with terrain.”
More good pics (another aviation article on crash)
Weather reported- no unusual weather
Good info and comments at the link you posted.
From what I can see on the google+ link, the plane wasn’t lined up with the runway at all?