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Rick Santorum in Iowa: The Term ‘Middle Class’ is ‘Marxism Talk’
Mediate ^ | August 13, 2013 | Matt Wilstein

Posted on 08/14/2013 6:07:21 PM PDT by yongin

Is there such thing as “class” in America? Not if you ask Rick Santorum. The once and possibly future GOP presidential candidate spoke to a Republican gathering in Lyon County, Iowa late last week and shared this piece of advice with his party: “Don’t use the term the other side uses.” That includes the “middle class.”

Santorum proceeded to tear into President Obama for constantly invoking the term “middle class” in his speeches about the economy. “Since when in America do we have classes?” Santorum asked. “Since when in America are people stuck in areas or defined places called a class? That’s Marxism talk.”

He said that every time Republicans used the term “middle class” they are “buying into” Democrats’ “rhetoric of dividing America.” Instead, Santorum insisted “there’s no class in America” and it’s a place where “everyone has the opportunity to succeed.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: idiot; largestclass; middleclass; noclass; ricksantorum; saintsantorum; santorum; statistics; stupidparty; wearethe60percent; wearethe70percent; whatanidiot; workingpoor; workingrich

1 posted on 08/14/2013 6:07:21 PM PDT by yongin
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To: All

Although pundits and polls don’t consider Santorum is be a strong contender for 2016 now, he does have the potential to be a Dark Horse candidate. If the GOPe continued its push to be gay friendly and push aside social conservatives, they may rally around Santorum once again to send a message.


2 posted on 08/14/2013 6:10:12 PM PDT by yongin (You can't have a truce on social issues when the IRS is taking sides.)
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To: yongin

As Mark Levin has pointed out.

Classes traditionally are binding. They shackle individuals via heredity into lifelong, unchanging economic standing. India has classes. Britain has classes.

The USA was specifically set up as a nation without classes. ANYONE can make it. That is what the Founders envisioned, but today it is perverted. Class Warfare to the max under the community organizer food stamp president.


3 posted on 08/14/2013 6:12:38 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: yongin
" Santorum proceeded to tear into President Obama for constantly invoking the term “middle class” in his speeches about the economy. "

Rick Santorum ? it's because it's a subliminal message to the brainwashed masses whether they realize it or not to pit the poor against the rich.
4 posted on 08/14/2013 6:12:52 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: yongin

Perhaps he wants to use “union class”, or the “right-wing fringe” as he used to label Reagan supporters.


5 posted on 08/14/2013 6:13:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is radical social leftism, not economics)
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To: yongin

I don’t dislike him but I hope it never comes to having to choose between him and somebody else.


6 posted on 08/14/2013 6:13:36 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Sweater Vest” ping.


7 posted on 08/14/2013 6:14:51 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: yongin

Good job Rick on recognizing that rhetorical trick!

There are two classes in the USA; the makers and the takers. Regrettably, the takers have us outnumbered.

Another way of saying it is we all belong to a tea party; the TEA Party or the TIT-TEA Party.


8 posted on 08/14/2013 6:15:16 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: yongin

I thought that Santorum was the best of the candidates who were in the running last time around. And evidently Romney and the press thought so too, since they never ceased bashing him. He was ahead of Newt Gingrich, who steadily ran third, and only stayed in the race until Santorum was eliminated.

I think Sarah Palin is a much stronger candidate, but I’d settle for Rick. He is a conservative with genuine moral principles, which you can’t say about many of them.


9 posted on 08/14/2013 6:16:00 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: yongin
Is there such thing as “class” in America?

Santorum proceeded to tear into President Obama for constantly invoking the term “middle class” in his speeches about the economy.

If there is a middle class in the United States Obama is working diligently to destroy it.

10 posted on 08/14/2013 6:17:01 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: yongin

Technically he’s right, the term was coined by the commies as a perjorative of the proles that lie somewhere in the middle of the statistical distribution of income, personal worth, education etc.


11 posted on 08/14/2013 6:18:56 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: yongin

Why should I have to listen to million (and billion) dollar marxists (who already owe millions in unpaid back taxes) bitch about how the poor (lower class) shouldn’t have to pay ANY taxes, should get “tax refunds” when they don’t pay any taxes, and conveniently ignore that they want tax hikes on the middle class and significantly lower “upper class” who are nearing retirement and have no pension.


12 posted on 08/14/2013 6:19:05 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Servant of the Cross
So is "Capitalism." I wince when conservatives use it.

I prefer "free markets" or "free trade," although the former is incomprehensible to Democrats, and the latter connotes foreign trade.

So... I'd like to see us use "free exchange" or "fair exchange." With the latter, we get to steal a word from the Left.

13 posted on 08/14/2013 6:19:31 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: yongin

I didn’t much care for him in the beginning but really grew to like him. He really brought the right message to Michigan about direct job creation through elimination of the tax on manufacturing and regulatory cuts. Anyone who has ever spent time in a factory knew exactly what he was talking about.


14 posted on 08/14/2013 6:22:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: yongin

Santorum has said nothing I disagree with in this article.
But.
Where does he stand on immigration?
Where does he stand on Boehner/Mcconnell doing nothing while Obama legislates?
How about tax cuts for all taxpayers, does he support?
Punishing the IRS?? Yes/No?
Real cuts to govt agencies, does he support?

Those are questions I want any GOP presidential wannabe to answer... clear direct answers.


15 posted on 08/14/2013 6:24:08 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: yongin

Sinclair Lewis once said there are those high class who buy book with their money no matter how little they have, and those who buy beer and icecream no matter how much they have. Guess where we see Obozo and Michelobs all the time around?

Clinton is white trash, Bozo is ghetto.


16 posted on 08/14/2013 6:28:39 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: yongin
“Don’t use the term the other side uses.” That includes the “middle class.”

In this he is correct. Never fall prey to the Progressives arguments by accepting ANY of their premises as a stating point.

17 posted on 08/14/2013 6:34:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Viennacon

It’s not just the leftist dems, the GOPe is waging class warfare on the working class.


18 posted on 08/14/2013 6:40:14 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: yongin
Technically Rick may be right here, but is this the food fight we really want to be in?  Seriously?

We're at a level where over 40 million people who should have jobs don't.  Another way of looking at it is, we have approximately 22.8% unemployment right now.  And that doesn't even address the under-employment.

So instead of going intellectual on us, how about Santorum merely talk about the demise of the group he doesn't want to talk about.  I'm not sure how you do that if you're going to change the references we've all grown used to.  That's why I think addressing the term right now is a very poor choice of a way to go.

My fellow citizens, I would like to lament the demise of the middle-class, but I can't use that term any longer.  You know the group, the one that well... er a... mmmmm... ah.... oh well, I guess I didn't really have anything to say anyway.

Sorry I don't see this like others do.  Our middle class is under full frontal assalt, and we're quibling about wether we should use that term or not.

Can someone get some body bags.  Get the ones with the special sectional, that covers bleeding to death by foot wound.  You know, the self-inflicted ones.


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19 posted on 08/14/2013 6:45:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: noprogs

I’ll say! What with the bank bailouts, crony capitalism, and the fed propping up the markets the takers have pretty well robbed us blind.


20 posted on 08/14/2013 6:46:39 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: yongin

Apparntly someone in the Santorum camp neglected to tell him that we’re all living in a Marxist Republic now.

The lines around the block for toilet paper should have been the give-away.


21 posted on 08/14/2013 6:51:16 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: yongin

Really don’t think claiming there’s no middle class is a winning position. In fact, it opens him up for all kinds of attacks from people who say the Republicans want to destroy the middle class.

Yes, the Democratic policies ARE what is actually destroying the middle class. However, most people believe they are middle class (whether they are or not)—no matter how much Goobermint $$ they take.

Just as in the last two elections, the MSM will manuever the GOP into picking someone who is programmed to lose. McCain certainly fit the bill in 2008. I thought Romney would have done better in ‘08, but his ‘12 performance put that notion to rest. In both cases, the campaigns pulled too many punches. In contrast, the Libs NEVER pull their punches.


22 posted on 08/14/2013 6:55:11 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Cicero
He was ahead of Newt Gingrich, who steadily ran third, and only stayed in the race until Santorum was eliminated.

You must be from a parallel universe.

23 posted on 08/14/2013 7:11:37 PM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: newzjunkey

You think? In the weeks going in to the point where Romney sewed it up, the race had Romney in first place, Santorum in second, and Newt in third.


24 posted on 08/14/2013 7:14:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: yongin
It looks like there may be several RINOs lining up to run in the next election: Rubio, Christie, Jeb, etc.

Wouldn't it be nice this time if there was just one truly conservative candidate who could trounce all his/her RINO opponents who split the RINO vote amongst themselves?

Of course we will get the same nonsense as we got the last couple of times: just as many wingnut conservatives going against compromised RINOs.

In the end it will be one RINO vs. one wingnut and the RINO will end up as our candidate.

25 posted on 08/14/2013 7:21:22 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Cicero; newzjunkey; Servant of the Cross
Cissy, you need a history lesson: and here it is: (by the way, the thing was over in Florida - Santorum only rose to second after that when nothing mattered...)


26 posted on 08/14/2013 8:18:12 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: yongin

There are many definitions of “class.” What I would mean by “middle class” is not at all what Obama seems to mean; neither of us means what a 19th Century intellectual would have meant. What 18th Century American patriots would have meant is different from all three.


27 posted on 08/14/2013 8:23:00 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: yongin

The GOPe might find him useful in splitting enough of the conservative primary vote to get Jeb or similar in as the designated loser for 2016. Assuming Santorum somehow became the nominee...hello Hillary (or worse). The guy just can’t seem to appeal much beyond the very religious Christian segment of the electorate. I think he’s too easy to paint as a “Bible thumping zealot” to get enough independent voters, even if the GOP rallied behind him. The Obamedia would eat him for breakfast. Not saying it’s right, but you know it’s what they will do.


28 posted on 08/14/2013 8:30:31 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: yongin; yorkiemom; Jane Long; ladyjane; butterdezillion

Class Warfare is based on envy. A more accurate term is Class Envy.

BTW, just what does the Bible have to say about those who envy others?


29 posted on 08/14/2013 8:39:23 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: yongin
America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Downton’s Class System — and Ours: We have a ruling class that despises the free market and does...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024119/posts


30 posted on 08/14/2013 9:26:35 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: yongin

He’s actually right, but this is the kind of “wonk-speak” that will go over most people’s heads.


31 posted on 08/15/2013 2:57:53 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: yongin

Santorum would lose 48 states.


32 posted on 08/15/2013 3:54:02 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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