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Kan. voters' limbo shows hitch in citizenship law
Associated Press ^ | August 15, 2013 | John Hanna

Posted on 08/15/2013 1:15:07 PM PDT by Twotone

TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) -- A few weeks after moving to suburban Kansas City from the Seattle area, Aaron Belenky went online to register to vote. But he ended up joining thousands of other Kansas residents whose voting rights are in legal limbo because of the state's new proof-of-citizenship rule.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: elections; kansas; voting
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To: Bronzewound

It tells me that 15,000 people are trying to vote illegally.


21 posted on 08/15/2013 1:59:28 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: Kanzan

Or, in this guy’s situation, maybe vote in two places.


22 posted on 08/15/2013 2:00:28 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: All
Yep...

here he is on facebook

ACLU, George Takei, etc.

Also a member of Young Democrats of America when he lived in Seattle.

Below, he's shown with his voter registration papers outside his new digs in Overland Park, KS.

yes...I've posted it twice; I changed a couple of things.

23 posted on 08/15/2013 2:06:22 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Bronzewound

Birth certificate, top drawer. Passport, top drawer. Backup ID - top drawer. What is this dude’s malfunction?


24 posted on 08/15/2013 2:14:14 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Twotone

They ask for id for beer, what is the problem?


25 posted on 08/15/2013 2:20:45 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Twotone

Any state participating in the Real ID Act requires ALL persons seeking a drivers license or state ID to provide proof of birth in a embossed format. This is required in plenty of states. It is not as if the ‘poor’ chap couldn’t get another set of documents he in fact can. All he has to do is contact his state of birth and pay the appropriate fee.


26 posted on 08/15/2013 2:24:19 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Twotone
I sympathize after having to go through much of the same B.S. just to open a bank account and a P.O. Box.

Thank you, George W. Bush, a Republican Congress and the Patriot Act.

27 posted on 08/15/2013 2:27:27 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Nifster
All he has to do is contact his state of birth and pay the appropriate fee.

"All". All? Try getting anything out of your federal, state, county or city governments.

28 posted on 08/15/2013 2:31:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

I moved recently to Georgia. Georgia requires the same type of proof. PLUS I had to have a marriage certificate (embossed) as well (from an entirely different state).

It took my all of three days (total complete) to get both documents. Apparently you haven’t ever tried. Again I say ALL he had to do was contact the state and county he was born in and pay a fee. END OF STORY. The man is lazy and has no desire to prove that he is a citizen and THEREFORE has the right to vote.

I do NOT want NON citizens voting. It is bad enough that non-registered voters can vote and register on the same day and that voting has been extending out for weeks on end. Voting used to be at a particular time and place on a given day. Either you are to young to remember that or you just don’t care about the integrity of the vote


29 posted on 08/15/2013 2:36:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I don't want to have to show my "papers" when I was born here and have never been more than 500 miles from the place of my birth.

I had to prove my citizenship to my Godfather in order to open up a checking account.

That's B.S. and I resent it.

30 posted on 08/15/2013 2:43:07 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Bronzewound

He’s liable to not like Kansas as much as he thought. Might want to move over to the east side of State Line.


31 posted on 08/15/2013 2:47:14 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

I lived in KC for more than two decades, so I can chuckle with you on that.


32 posted on 08/15/2013 2:55:18 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Bronzewound

Both my kids graduated from Shawnee Mission high schools in the 1980’s. Just a great place to raise a family. Leawood does tend to be more than a little left wing and snooty though. Friday night was baseball or football and Saturday night was always off to the demolition derby and funny car races with friends at Riverside which we watched from the back end of our pick-up while drinking beer. Life was good!

What always amazed me was that everyone was convinced that if you lived in Johnson County you obviously had big bucks. Looking back on those days now, I would have to say we were but it certainly had nothing to do with money, just quality of life.


33 posted on 08/15/2013 5:28:18 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: elkfersupper

that may be but if you live in a real ID state you will have to prove your citizenship to get a driver’s license


34 posted on 08/15/2013 8:00:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
It is not as if the ‘poor’ chap couldn’t get another set of documents he in fact can. All he has to do is contact his state of birth and pay the appropriate fee.

Unless he is naturalized, and was born in a foreign country. As I was. Arrived in San Francisco when I was eight.

In a baffling twist, I was naturalized as soon as I was able, when I was 18 and still have my Original naturalization certificate. When I tried to apply for Social Security 58 years later, that certificate was not sufficient to establish my identity.
The bureaucracy insisted on an original (embossed) Birth Certificate, which was destroyed in a fire when I was 20. The Records office in my country of origin was destroyed by earthquake and fire and the records were destroyed. But in the meantime, I had had a U.S. passport for almost 40 years, but that, too, was insufficient.

Bottom line, it took three years to get a document, and it took a trip by a relative who had connections to be able to get the required documentation.

This all happened, of course, long before I could get an illegal to walk me through the "other" way to get things done.

35 posted on 08/15/2013 8:24:01 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: publius911

Don’t know about social security but for the driver’s license the passport and naturalization papers would have been enough


36 posted on 08/15/2013 8:28:31 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
that may be but if you live in a real ID state you will have to prove your citizenship to get a driver’s license

If you never ask for a driver license, you don't need one.

Wars were fought over the right to peaceably travel in or on contemporary conveyances without interference by government revenue agents.

37 posted on 08/16/2013 12:36:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Go ahead and fight your war.


38 posted on 08/16/2013 2:24:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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