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'A big hoax': Experts say North Korea showing off missiles that can't fly
NBC News ^ | 08/14/2013 | Robert Windrem and M.L. Flynn

Posted on 08/15/2013 2:45:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

PYONGYANG, North Korea -- Missiles paraded through the streets of Pyongyang in recent displays of North Korean military might -- said to be capable of hitting targets throughout Asia and even in the U.S. -- are incapable of flight and are almost certainly nothing more than fakes, according to U.S. government experts and independent analysts.

"My opinion is that it's a big hoax," Markus Schiller, an aerospace engineer in Munich and former RAND Corp. military analyst, said of the intercontinental and medium-range missiles displayed in the North Korean capital in April 2012 and again two weeks ago.

U.S. government experts, having reviewed unclassified images from the most recent parade on July 27, including high-resolution photos provided by NBC News, agreed. “Our assessment is that what we are looking at is most likely simulators used for training purposes,” according to a statement to NBC News.

(Excerpt) Read more at investigations.nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: missiles; northkorea
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1 posted on 08/15/2013 2:45:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

A photo montage from a July 26, 2013, military parade in the North Korean capital of Pyongyang shows a purported Hwasong-13 intercontinental ballistic missile, with the area where retro rockets should be mounted highlighted, along with close-ups showing that forward nozzles on the rocket bodies of two individual missiles were placed in different positions.
2 posted on 08/15/2013 2:45:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That's OK ,.. we have a leader who can't lead !!


3 posted on 08/15/2013 2:47:59 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ((Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison))
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To: SeekAndFind
Our leader is too busy campaigning ..
He never got to the third lesson on leadership
As he failed lesson # two : "Do what you say , and say what you do !
Lesson #2 still has restraining orders on it , and we can't even determine what his grades were !

4 posted on 08/15/2013 2:52:22 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ((Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison))
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
That's OK ,.. we have a leader who can't lead !!

Meh. I wasn't looking to be led so I'm not too worked up over that.

5 posted on 08/15/2013 2:55:06 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: SeekAndFind
but look on the bright side !!
He lost 20,000 M16's in Kuwait
But "only" 400 missles in Benghazi !!
6 posted on 08/15/2013 2:55:33 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ((Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison))
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To: SeekAndFind

You wouldn’t expect them to put their real missiles on display would you? Those are top secret. Designed by Kim Jong Un himself! (He also designs smart phones.)


7 posted on 08/15/2013 3:01:37 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hard to see with the 14 coats of Rustoleum.


8 posted on 08/15/2013 3:20:58 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
But "only" 400 missiles in Benghazi !!

Now that is what I call Progress. :)

9 posted on 08/15/2013 3:31:14 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: SeekAndFind
RETRO-rockets? can somebody pls enlighten me as to what that is supposed to mean???

thx...

10 posted on 08/15/2013 3:32:15 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SeekAndFind

North Korea has phoney missiles. America has a phoney President.


11 posted on 08/15/2013 3:48:56 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Chode

Probably for stage separation.


12 posted on 08/15/2013 3:50:39 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Chode

What’s next? A dog masquerading as a lion?


13 posted on 08/15/2013 3:53:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Fred Hayek
but wouldn't they be internal??? maneuvering thrusters i understand, but to me, retro-rockets are to retard/slow movement in a given direction

sounds like maybe somebody got their words mixed up

14 posted on 08/15/2013 4:01:59 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
LOL, i saw that... shakes head
15 posted on 08/15/2013 4:03:11 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why let them know that we know? We should make them think we think they’re genuine.


16 posted on 08/15/2013 4:22:52 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: SeekAndFind

This is an old tactic. I remember from the Penkovsky papers (1960’s) that most missiles parading thru Red Square every year were actually hollow.


17 posted on 08/15/2013 4:44:20 PM PDT by EarlyBird (This space for rent)
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To: EarlyBird

A Potemkin village of missiles.


18 posted on 08/15/2013 5:07:38 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
What’s next? A dog masquerading as a lion?

Yes, say the Chinese

19 posted on 08/15/2013 5:54:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Chode

They may be different, but that’s because that’s
where the blueprint was folded. Shouldn’t make any
difference in flight. Well ok, maybe a little but
not much.

Missed orbit by that much...


20 posted on 08/15/2013 6:28:38 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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