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Bakery Investigated for Refusing to Bake Lesbian Wedding Cake
Fox News ^ | August 15, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 08/16/2013 6:00:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The state of Oregon has launched a discrimination investigation against a family bakery owned by Christians who refused to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple.

The Bureau of Labor and Industries will investigate whether Sweet Cakes by Melissa violated a 2007 law that protects the rights of gays, lesbians, bisexual and transgender people in employment, housing and public accommodations.

Aaron and Melissa Klein told Fox News they turned down requests to bake cakes for gay weddings because it goes against the Christian faith and their right to religious freedom.

“I believe marriage is between a man and a woman,” Klein said. “I don’t want to help somebody celebrate a commitment to a lifetime of sin.”

The 2007 Oregon law provides an exemption for religious organizations and religious schools but does not allow private business owners to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian told The Oregonian he is committed to a fair and thorough investigation to determine whether the bakery discriminated against the lesbians.....

(Excerpt) Read more at radio.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: christians; gaymarriage; gopagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; lavendermafia; lesbians; oregon; romneyagenda; romneymarriage; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 08/16/2013 6:00:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 08/16/2013 6:03:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Businesses ought to get smart about this: everyone understands when a bakery is too busy and can’t take any more orders.

Losing a bit of business is no comparison to being hammered out of business by a bunch of malicious sodomites


3 posted on 08/16/2013 6:04:25 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee, I would love to bake them a cake. I would cook about 20 pounds of chicken gizzards and let them cool. Then I would cover them with whipped cream and put a cherry on top. Bon Appétit!


4 posted on 08/16/2013 6:04:40 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unless this whole episode was intentional ... why didn’t they just go to a queer bakery? You would think they would want to support their own. Just say’n


5 posted on 08/16/2013 6:04:41 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Quite a good poster.


6 posted on 08/16/2013 6:04:54 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: doc1019

Of course it was intentional. You or I would find that they didn’t want to serve us and go somewhere else.


7 posted on 08/16/2013 6:08:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Enterprise

that would take a lot of guts


8 posted on 08/16/2013 6:09:03 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

9 posted on 08/16/2013 6:10:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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10 posted on 08/16/2013 6:10:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Enterprise

Meh, Tabasco sauce does the job just as well. Beautiful cake. 100 percent inedible.


11 posted on 08/16/2013 6:11:25 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: doc1019
why didn’t they just go to a queer bakery?

Because that doesn't accomplish their goal of suppressing dissent / requiring compliance to their tyranny...it is intentional.

I am in the town of Arlene's Flowers -- similar case. That one was not intentional or planned, but all subsequent cases are because this has been adopted as a standard tactic by the queer mafia.

12 posted on 08/16/2013 6:12:38 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Militant homosexuals are not happy to simply patronize the businesses that welcome them. They have to seek out and punish those who would DARE to oppose the agenda of perversion.


13 posted on 08/16/2013 6:12:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Enterprise

That’s a waste of good gizzards.


14 posted on 08/16/2013 6:12:50 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Charge them double or triple and make sure it looks like a penis


15 posted on 08/16/2013 6:13:03 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Their ultimate goal is to make it illegal to say anything negative against homosexuals. Oregon looks like it is well on its way and homos are going to use those laws to hammer Christian businesses.


16 posted on 08/16/2013 6:13:34 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Businesses once had the right to refuse business..


17 posted on 08/16/2013 6:14:34 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: cripplecreek
The 2007 Oregon law provides an exemption for religious organizations and religious schools but does not allow private business owners to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

The Freedom of Religion isn't for churches. It's for individuals.

18 posted on 08/16/2013 6:14:55 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Some of those harridans look like they could use some time at the gym.


19 posted on 08/16/2013 6:16:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Darksheare
Businesses once had the right to refuse business..

And that was good for other businesses who didn't refuse.
20 posted on 08/16/2013 6:17:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So bake em one. Smile creepily as you give it to them. Say “here’s the cake you forced me to make, knowing I don’t like you”. Let their mind do the rest of the work.

Ive never understood the mentality of someone who uses THREATS to get you to cook something for them.
Think that one ALL the way through lesbos. The best you can hope for is an edible cake someone really doesn’t want to make for you. You didn’t get their best effort. And the worst you could get, I don’t even want to think about.

Morons.


21 posted on 08/16/2013 6:18:10 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

As mentioned in related threads, not only have the states amended the Constitution to expressly protect religious expression as evidenced by the 1st Amendment, but the states have never amended the Constitution to protect so-called gay rights. So the State of Oregon seems to be in violation of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment for making a law which unreasonably abridges constitutionally enumerated rights.


22 posted on 08/16/2013 6:19:33 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: DesertRhino

I learned early on in the Army not to unnecessarily tick off the people who make your food, pay you and can put you in jail.


23 posted on 08/16/2013 6:20:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; HoosierDammit; TYVets; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; ...
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24 posted on 08/16/2013 6:21:47 PM PDT by narses
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The entire homosexual agenda could be codified into law and these people would remain inherently miserable.


25 posted on 08/16/2013 6:21:49 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Darksheare

That was a different country.


26 posted on 08/16/2013 6:22:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, two groups not to mess with in the military ... cooks and paymasters. ;-)


27 posted on 08/16/2013 6:23:18 PM PDT by doc1019
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28 posted on 08/16/2013 6:23:47 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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Homosexuals who keep to themselves are misguided, but these totalitarian bullies are pure evil. A government that would enforce such laws has no legitimacy. As for decent people, we no longer have any obligation to respond to gay activists honestly. We no longer have the freedom to politely refuse, so we should (and must) submit to their demands and then regretfully cancel at the last minute due to a conflict that we overlooked.

“Oh, dear, the ovens failed and there is no cake. We’ll refund your money in accordance with the contract” (and make sure there is no penalty in the contract that we ‘fully intended’ to fulfill).

“Sorry, but the reception venue is not usable due to a plumbing failure. I apologize, and you will of course receive a full refund.” (The hardware store receipt for a replacement drain pipe provides support for the necessity.)

It’s a shame for decent homosexuals to be inconvenienced, but with gay thugs setting up those businesspeople who have ethics, and with the government siding with those bullies, there may be no choice.


29 posted on 08/16/2013 6:24:58 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The 2007 Oregon law provides an exemption for religious organizations and religious schools but does not allow private business owners to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

They need to be taught no one leaves their beliefs at the door of work and pick them up when they leave. If so, get those scarfs of the heads of those who wear them and they cannot use work time to sit on a rug or chant in the halls at work. These perverts aren't being discriminating against - they have a free will to go somewhere. Free will is one of their 'rights' that they are so concerned about - and they refuse to exercise it. A bakery is not hard to find. No one is stopping them but them.

30 posted on 08/16/2013 6:25:26 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Tabasco sauce does the job just as well. Beautiful cake. 100 percent inedible.”

No, that’d get you sued. Go Alfred Hitchcock on them. Just smile creepily, and tell them “here’s the cake I baked because you threatened me that I had better”.

Let their own mind do all the work. They’ll make themselves ill thinking of what you must have done. Head games is where its at.

Trip and stumble as you are carrying it out,,and the only ready replacements on the shelf all have Christian themes. Etc etc...


31 posted on 08/16/2013 6:25:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SatinDoll
Businesses ought to get smart about this: everyone understands when a bakery is too busy and can’t take any more orders.
Losing a bit of business is no comparison to being hammered out of business by a bunch of malicious sodomites

Well put.

32 posted on 08/16/2013 6:25:43 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Doomonyou

bump


33 posted on 08/16/2013 6:25:46 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d of baked a muff burger cake.


34 posted on 08/16/2013 6:27:02 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

you vill comply mit your pink nazi Obersturmführers!!!!!! Or suffer the wrath of JugEars!!!


35 posted on 08/16/2013 6:27:31 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oregon, a different dimension unto itself.


36 posted on 08/16/2013 6:31:59 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, an amazing concept this...er..”free enterprise”.
How long until it gets rediscovered?


37 posted on 08/16/2013 6:33:25 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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38 posted on 08/16/2013 6:33:39 PM PDT by TChad
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To: doc1019

why didn’t they just go to a queer bakery?
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Maybe, just maybe, in Bum Fluke USA, a person who opens a bakery and loudly proclaims they are NOT STRAIGHT, may just not have enough business to keep the doors open - especially if the help is ‘prancing around’ and acting queer all the time....

Just sayin’.....


39 posted on 08/16/2013 6:35:02 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --"People who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to." J. Seinfeld)
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To: bigheadfred
"that would take a lot of guts"

Yes it would! LOL

But some here have an even better idea. Bake them a cake, and when they pick it up, smirk at them and tell them you put all your "love" into the cake.

40 posted on 08/16/2013 6:38:21 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: cripplecreek

I seem to have missed something.
They are a PRIVATE business.
NOT a government agency.
Where did the freedom of association go?
How does it work that I as a private citizen cannot associate with whom I please?
I do not have to associate with queers, steers, politicians, government employees, or terrorists if I choose not to.
My suggestion would be get a good shyster (pro bono) who wants to make a name and file civil and criminal charges against these ‘things’.
You can always count on the law.
Sometimes it civil, sometimes it’s criminal, sometimes it’s contract.
Sometimes it’s jungle.


41 posted on 08/16/2013 6:38:55 PM PDT by jim999
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To: xrmusn

Would Oregon be investigating a Muslim bakery?


42 posted on 08/16/2013 6:40:52 PM PDT by waredbird
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To: jim999

Look up the meaning of ‘public accomodations’. By US law any business that is not a private club or a religious institution must serve all who come to its doors.


43 posted on 08/16/2013 6:43:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Enterprise

Add a secret ingredient.

Ex-lax.


44 posted on 08/16/2013 6:45:36 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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Or Spanish fly.


45 posted on 08/16/2013 6:46:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Revolting cat! wrote:

“Or Spanish fly.”

ROTFLMAO....


46 posted on 08/16/2013 6:51:03 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: xrmusn

Gresham (the location of their business) is only about 17 miles from Portland ... within striking distance of several (I’m sure) queer bakery’s. Just say’n


47 posted on 08/16/2013 6:52:58 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fellow Freepers, I would appreciate any guidance you could provide on the following: are there any group of attorneys that are working to provide legal strategies for businesses to protect themselves against this kind of extortion?


48 posted on 08/16/2013 6:55:40 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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DesertRhino: “Trip and stumble as you are carrying it out...”

I disagree. As a Christian, I think it’s more appropriate to treat them nicely. If one is going to bake a cake for the lesbian couple, then one should do it right. However, that wouldn’t be my first choice. My first choice would be to honestly tell them my religious faith prohibits me from encouraging sin, and homosexuality is sinful. Then I would take it all the way to the Supreme Court if possible.

In other words, I don’t think dishonesty, anger, or revenge are appropriate Christian responses. It would be better to be punished for standing for honest, Christian faith. If the court case is ultimately lost, one can then pay the fine and/or close the business. I don’t think it’s right to repay evil for evil.


49 posted on 08/16/2013 6:56:50 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tell the couple that they can have the cake for free provided they listen to a 30 min sermon on the wages of their sins and perverted lifestyle.Big Bro may be able to force you to bake the cake, but HE can't tell you what form of payment you have to accept.
50 posted on 08/16/2013 7:00:35 PM PDT by The Louiswu (One brave man, that's all we need.)
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