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Posted on 08/17/2013 4:40:04 AM PDT by txrangerette
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“You think Romney would have pushed the gay agenda, obamacare and amnesty to the same reckless, whole-hearted degree as Obama??”
The man who said he would be ftter for the homos than Ted Kennedy? The man who had illegals working at his house and only ditched them because he got caught?
And that complete and total idiocy is why the rest of his record mirrors Obama.
When you compare the two, Romneys was far worse than Obama’s before Zero ascended. That’s a died in wool/carved in stone fact. So if every other example in history is anything to go by, he would have been just as bad, perhaps in different ways. But if that’s all you got to hang your hat on, it just proves them mess this is.
Voting for evil gets more of it. Period.
re: “Voting for evil gets more of it. Period.”
But, you see, that’s just the point. Every candidate is evil to a certain extent. That’s the “degree” part I spoke of. So, you are always voting for what you perceive to be “less evil” in a candidate.
Of the republican candidates or independent candidates who ran for president in 2012 - which one was not evil in your opinion?
And, a follow-up question, at what point do you decide a candidate is not “evil” enough to avoid voting for them?
We are on our own. I am anyway, I live in the People’s Republic of Illinois..
Follow that logic to it’s conclusion and you get to be a card carrying member of the situational ethics club. And then anything goes.
If you can knowingly vote for a guy that personally funds the Gonsels of the world, then don’t complain about the other guy who does now in office. Same for the gay thing and the rest.
I’m good with Reagan’s 80 percent standard of purity. Did Romney break 50? No. 40? no. So how low are you willing to go? How much evil? Do the words of the founders who specifically said NOT to do that mean anything or do you feel like one freeper told me, ‘that’s just John Wayne talk”?
I have literally told my daughter I am sorry for bringing her into this world. I doubt I am alone in having done that.
re: “Im good with Reagans 80 percent standard of purity. Did Romney break 50? No. 40? no. So how low are you willing to go? How much evil?”
I vote for as much good as possible and less evil as possible between two choices.
I’m willing to vote for less evil even if candidate A is only 1% less evil than candidate B. I always vote for less evil and more good.
If I “opt-out” and don’t vote at all, I’ve permitted the greater evil to have the greater chance at winning.
I’m not voting the the evil that candidate A does (and candidate A may be very evil in comparison to God’s standards), no, I’m voting for their “less evilness” or “greater goodness” as opposed to candidate B’s greater evilness and less goodness.
re: “Follow that logic to its conclusion and you get to be a card carrying member of the situational ethics club. And then anything goes.”
I think this is crux of the matter. You think that voting for a candidate that supports issues you deem evil, even though it may not be to the degree of the other candidate, somehow makes you complicit in that evil. I think that’s a mistake.
In my opinion, opting out of voting for candidate A (because he supports the same evil of candidate B, though not in the same degree) allows the greater evil the greater chance of winning - and, that DOES make us complicit with allowing the greater evil to win.
On the other hand, if we do vote for candidate A, even though he supports the same evil of candidate B, but to a lesser degree, this gives the greater good, though it a small greater goodness, a chance to defeat the greater evil.
I think our motives are what count with God. We are not supporting candidate A BECAUSE of the evil he supports. No, we support candidate A because he promotes more goodness and less evil than candidate B.
If candidate A wins because of our support, then we work to move him/her toward greater good and away from evil. That may or may not work. But, it’s the only chance we have for good to begin making a come-back in this life. We live in a fallen, sinful world with fallen, sinful people. It stinks but that’s the way of the world we live in. Only God can (and will) fix all the evil one day. In the meantime, we work for all the greater good that we can.
I dont deem anything evil. I was taught the difference between good and evil real young.
If you vote for a guy who backs abortion, you empower and assist in killing children. That’s evil
If you vote for a guy that thinks he’s the Lincoln of homosexuality, you empower evil.
This ain’t rocket surgery. Evil is pretty easy to spot. Disagreeing with someone does not make them evil. Disagreeing with someone doing evil is pretty much a no brainer for anyone with a basic set of morals.
Hillary and Obama are separated by more than a percent ov evil. If one runs as a Repub, which do you vote for and not get evil elected? And that’s not a straw man as some here seem to trot out. Because Romney has a history of evil in office greater than Obama’s before his assension. And despite the FACT that his record of evil closely tracked Obamas while IN office, people said OK to it.
And then wonder why the GOP moves ever leftward every election.
re: “Hillary and Obama are separated by more than a percent ov evil. If one runs as a Repub, which do you vote for and not get evil elected?”
One of those two is less evil than the other. If they were the choices, opting out of the choice makes one complicit, in my opinion, with allowing greater evil to win.
I see we are just not going to agree. I understand that you are doing what you think best and I respect you for it, though I think it leads to greater evil. I know that is not your intent.
I know you see my thinking as a compromise with evil, but I see it as slowing or stopping greater evil and attempting to move us away from the precipice.
I pray for our nation as I think it is already too far gone. God can work miracles, but our national sins I fear are too great.
Anyway, thank you for the cordial discussion. I enjoyed it as it helped me to clarify my thoughts.