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Mona Nelson Trial: The Blow Torch Killer Prosecution Loses Line-up ID As Evidence
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | August 17, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 08/18/2013 1:56:03 PM PDT by Uncle Chip

In Houston Texas a middle-aged black woman named Mona Nelson kidnapped a 12-year-old white boy from his home on Christmas Eve 2010. She tied him up with string, then burned him with a blowtorch, and dumped his body in a ditch.

Nelson’s bench trial began last week – no jury (per her request).

The reporting on this story is scant at best, mostly local, and poorly done. The latest article about the trial is a testament to such horrid journalism – SEE HERE

The prosecution lost the affirmative eye witness lineup as evidence because Mona Nelson looked so masculine the police could not find similar looking females.

Initially, because of her physique and appearance, the eye-witness thought she was a man. Against the backdrop of five additional females in a line-up looking like women, Nelson stood out like the brutal killer she is.

The judge has thrown out the line-up as evidence.

The defense asked the detective (who conducted the line-up) if he should have considered using men. The detective agreed it might have been something to consider.

When the defense followed up and said: “why didn’t you“? The detective responded, ” I can’t imagine my position in this courtroom today if we’d have put five men in that lineup.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: monanelson
Talk about a Catch 22 -- Trial resumes next week.
1 posted on 08/18/2013 1:56:03 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Probably all true.

But is there a credible source for this, aside from a blogger named “Sundance”?


2 posted on 08/18/2013 2:00:17 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Uncle Chip

I wonder what the reporting would have been like if a white man/woman had killed a ten year old black boy with a blow torch instead of vice versa.


3 posted on 08/18/2013 2:00:51 PM PDT by RC one
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To: humblegunner

Yep — at the link of blogger Sundance.


4 posted on 08/18/2013 2:03:32 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: humblegunner

When you find that credible source, let us know.


5 posted on 08/18/2013 2:05:36 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

You want me to show where this chicken scratch blogger stole the story from?

Or do you imagine “Sundance” was at the courthouse, chasing down this story?

It’s a blog. It’s ripped off and re-worked material.


6 posted on 08/18/2013 2:08:28 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Can you find the source material to back up your allegation? Maybe Sundance has sat in the court trial.

I’m just wondering how much material you have provided over the years?


7 posted on 08/18/2013 2:10:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: humblegunner
It’s ripped off and re-worked material.

What isn't???

He posted his source -- are you too lazy to go there???

8 posted on 08/18/2013 2:13:18 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Jonty30
I’m just wondering how much material you have provided over the years?

You just keep wondering.

9 posted on 08/18/2013 2:17:42 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Uncle Chip
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=9207626

Link to the news story from KTRK out of Houston.

Can't find it today on FR. But I recall hearing about it on FR first, and no where else.

10 posted on 08/18/2013 2:18:06 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: RC one

It would have it’s own graphic and sorrowful music when it is discussed on the news, and would have had a somber Obama taking a moment away from Reggie Love to speak about it.

Not to mention the civil rights patrol’s feeding frenzy.


11 posted on 08/18/2013 2:18:46 PM PDT by TheGipperWasRight
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To: humblegunner

That’s what I thought.


12 posted on 08/18/2013 2:19:30 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: humblegunner

Sundance formerly known as Sundance Cracker ... is notorious for ripping off other bloggers and authors for his info. I believe one person even sued him for it.


13 posted on 08/18/2013 2:22:56 PM PDT by housemom1952
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To: Uncle Chip

Is this the monster our mayor here in Houston was seen arm in arm with?


14 posted on 08/18/2013 2:26:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: humblegunner
Lets focus on the murder and not blog rules. The way FR is responding today no one will get far in searching it.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7869821

I found a link to one of the early stories about this murder. Here is an except from that story:

... “It was surveillance cameras where Jonathan's body was found in northeast Houston that gave investigators their break. HPD Captain David Gott said around 6pm Christmas Eve, surveillance video showed a silver truck pull up to a ditch outside of a building on East Hardy. A person can be seen getting out of the truck, taking a body out of the bed of the truck and placing it in on the ground.

That person was recognized by neighbors and family as Nelson. Capt. Gott said Nelson drives a similar truck.

“The fire department has dogs that can detect accelerants such as fuel and that was not found on Jonathan. We don't know how he was burned; Mona was a welder,” said Capt. Gott.

That same day, authorities searched her apartment.

“We stumbled into a wealth of evidence that showed Jonathan's body was burned at the residence, evidence that shows perhaps the tools he was burned with,” said Det. Miller.

Torches and other welding tools were found inside Nelson's northwest Houston home. Authorities believe Jonathan was taken there, killed and burned beyond recognition the same day within hours. Twine used to tie Jonathan was also found inside Nelson's home. His body laid in the culvert through the Christmas holiday until he was discovered on Tuesday.

The horrible details were too much for several detectives who struggled to keep from crying.”</i>

...

15 posted on 08/18/2013 2:26:10 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Jonty30; Uncle Chip

Plenty of articles here:

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=mona+nelson+murder&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest


17 posted on 08/18/2013 2:26:24 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Me, I'd have a hard time myself;


18 posted on 08/18/2013 2:26:24 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government governs best when it governs least!)
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To: Uncle Chip
He posted his source -- are you too lazy to go there???

Unwilling to provide hits to thieves.

19 posted on 08/18/2013 2:26:33 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: texas booster

If you find anything on the upcoming Crystal Scott Trial, please let me know or post it here. That’s another one worth watching that the media even down in Texas are ignoring.


20 posted on 08/18/2013 2:26:43 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: humblegunner
I’m just wondering how much material you have provided over the years?

Damn, that's funny!

21 posted on 08/18/2013 2:29:34 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: Uncle Chip; humblegunner
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2650139/posts?page=65

For completeness, here is the first post I could find with g**gle.

22 posted on 08/18/2013 2:30:39 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Uncle Chip


23 posted on 08/18/2013 2:32:57 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: chesty_puller

It ain’t true until a blogger named Sundance reports it.


24 posted on 08/18/2013 2:34:53 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: texas booster

Articles on this here may be found under Key Word: “Mona Nelson” or “monanelson”.

Several have been posted.


25 posted on 08/18/2013 2:35:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8815444

Nothing since the grand jury indictment in May.

Very interesting comparison to the Zimmerman trial. She claimed he was beating on her windows after a minor accident and so she pulled her weapon and killed him. Witnesses mostly testified against her, one supported her story. Not arrested, now a grand jury indicts her.

This black vs. white crime has few trails on the web.

26 posted on 08/18/2013 2:38:52 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: humblegunner

Stay on the thread topic and stop your continual bitching about blogs.


29 posted on 08/18/2013 2:41:06 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
Stay on the thread topic and stop your continual bitching about blogs.

Oh, Yes Sir! Right Away, Sir!

I'll get right on that and see to it!

30 posted on 08/18/2013 2:43:05 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Uncle Chip

At any rate, if she is found guilty, I hope she never sees the light of day ever again.


31 posted on 08/18/2013 2:44:13 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: chesty_puller

Is this THE Chesty Puller?


32 posted on 08/18/2013 2:44:40 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Uncle Chip
Some background:

Houston Suspect May Be Serial Killer

By , About.com Guide January 13, 2011



The 44-year-old woman accused in the death of 12-year-old Jonathan Foster is a cold-blooded predator who may have other victims, according to homicide detectives. Mona Yvette Nelson has admitted to dumping Foster's badly burned body in a ditch near the Houston airport, but insists that she did not kill the boy.

She has been charged with first-degree murder in connection with his death.

"I was one of the detectives to interview Mona Nelson, and I can tell you that she is a cold, soulless murderer who showed an absolute lack of remorse in taking the life of Jonathan Foster," Houston Homicide Det. Michael Miller told reporters. "There are few cases that impact homicide detectives in this manner, but this is one of them."

Body Dumped in a Ditch

Nelson told investigators that one of Foster's family members paid her $20 to get rid of a plastic container. She said she put the container in a ditch without looking inside. The problem, detectives said, is that Foster's body was not in any kind of container when it was found in the ditch.

Nelson told television reporters that she could not have killed Foster because she is a grandmother who loves children. "I'm not a monster," she told KTRK. "I have five grand kids and I love kids."

But investigators said evidence found at Nelson's home tell a different story.

"Once we arrived at her house, we stumbled into a wealth of evidence - evidence that showed that Jonathan's body was burned at the residence. Evidence that showed, perhaps, the items that he was burned with. Evidence that had us fairly shaken up in collecting it," Miller said.

Suspect Acted Alone, Police Said

In statements to police, Nelson tried to point the finger at others, but investigators believe she alone was involved.

"She acted alone in this crime of her own disregard for human life. She decided to take Jonathan Foster out of our world," Miller said. "I've worked in the homicide division for 14 years and this is the worst case that I've been a part of. An innocent 12-year-old boy who was described by all as happy, outgoing and well-liked in the neighborhood - certainly, it's an absolute tragedy."

Det. Miller said Foster may not be Nelson's only victim.

"Do I believe she's done it before? Yeah, I do. I don't believe she began and ended with the abduction of Jonathan Foster, I don't," Miller said.

Abducted, Killed the Same Day

Jonathan Foster was reported missing by his mother on Christmas Eve after his mother called home to check on the boy and a strange woman with a raspy voice answered the phone. She rushed home and Jonathan was gone. She immediately notified police that he was missing.

Police initially filed the case as a missing child. It wasn't classified an abduction until the following Monday, Dec. 27. It was only then that an Amber Alter was issued. His body was found Monday, but not identified until Tuesday.

Investigators now believe Jonathan was abducted, killed, burned and dumped all on the same day.

See Also:
Suspect in Death "Soulless," May Have Other Victims, Say Police
Accused Child Killer Mona Nelson: 'I'm Not A Monster'
Police: Woman Charged in Boy's Death a 'Cold, Soulless Murderer'
Mona Nelson Arrested for Murder of 12-Year-Old Jonathan Foster



33 posted on 08/18/2013 2:48:51 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Uncle Chip
That’s another one worth watching that the media even down in Texas are ignoring.

Most of the media here in Texas, like most of the U.S.ofA. is owned and/or controlled by libalerals (misspelled on purpose) out of the N.E., Chicago or the west coast.

34 posted on 08/18/2013 2:51:03 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: texas booster

I posted the articles on this shooting here under Key Word “Crystal Scott” or “Jonathan Ables”.

But there has been nothing since the Grand Jury Indictment in March and nothing on her court arraignment, though I was told that her trial is scheduled for October or November.

This is another case of black on white cold blooded murder that the media is trying to conceal and the NAACP is trying to distort.


35 posted on 08/18/2013 2:53:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: IronJack
Is this THE Chesty Puller?

What kind of poor, lowlife, perverted POS would have the total lack of self-esteem to steal my identity?

36 posted on 08/18/2013 2:55:10 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller
What kind of poor, lowlife, perverted POS would have the total lack of self-esteem to steal my identity?

Bastards better NOT.

37 posted on 08/18/2013 2:57:43 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Uncle Chip

Line up evidence is so poor quality there has been serious consideration to discontinue it entirely. It rates even lower than lie detector tests in its accuracy.

Even if there is a clearly positive ID, much of the time it is either because the line up was done improperly; or the witness knows the suspect but is pretending they don’t.


38 posted on 08/18/2013 3:25:38 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: chesty_puller

Man, it’s been a while since I’ve seen YOU on the boards. Next thing you know, JENX will show up here ...!

How ya been?


39 posted on 08/18/2013 3:54:18 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: chesty_puller

Man, it’s been a while since I’ve seen YOU on the boards. Next thing you know, JENX will show up here ...!

How ya been?


40 posted on 08/18/2013 3:54:29 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: SES1066

Shocker! This deranged diesel dyke works as a welder


41 posted on 08/18/2013 3:59:45 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

Just what is her defense?
Wunt me?
Dint Doit?
Waz somone luk lik me?


42 posted on 08/18/2013 4:03:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Uncle Chip

This may really seem trivial to most of you out there, Nelson used a cutting torch, commonly owned by welders of which she claims to be.

I have an issue with the media’s corruption of the English language where the jerks refer to them as blow torches, something found in museums.

It will sure be nice when the only reference to the MSM will be found in museums and history books in a library.


43 posted on 08/18/2013 4:03:23 PM PDT by redfreedom (Republicans = The faux conservative wing of the democrat party.)
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To: redfreedom

She looks like an affirmative action threefer welder. Black female and dyke


44 posted on 08/18/2013 4:13:05 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: IronJack

Great to see you again! My life went to hell a couple of years ago, but now I doing great. I was living alone for the first time in my life when God sent my 2 Grand Daughters to stay with me. A reason to live and every day is a great one.


45 posted on 08/18/2013 6:23:55 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller

Sorry you went through a rough time. But I’m glad to hear you pulled through it. Take care, FRiend.


46 posted on 08/18/2013 7:23:59 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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