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St. Charles [Missouri] Police, Highway Patrol Arrest Overpass Protesters
danaloeschradio.com ^ | August 18, 2013 | Dana Loesch

Posted on 08/19/2013 10:01:19 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll

A few of you sent me this video, published to Youtube today, of the weekend overpass protests, this one in St. Charles, Missouri. I’m still trying to figure out what laws these protesters broke. While I wasn’t there, it seems to me the protesters were standing on public ground, not in traffic, therefor not impeding traffic. Having organized and attended many protests myself — and having worked with local law enforcement to make sure regulations (even mindlessly unnecessary ones) are met, so long as a protester isn’t standing in traffic, there isn’t an issue. Am I missing something here? Don’t miss the take-down-by-force at the end.

I’m going to reach out to the Missouri Highway Patrol and St. Charles law enforcement for comment.

Don’t forget: the Missouri Highway Patrol was one of the agencies who listed protesters just like the ones in this video as “militia” and potential domestic terrorists on the April 2009 MIAC report.


TOPICS: US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: arrest; benghazi; benghazibarry; fastandfurious; impeachbenghazibarry; impeachnow; irs; missouri; overpass; protest; stcharles
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I was at this event. We'll be going back next weekend.

Duane Weed, the man with the beard who was one of the two arrested, will be interviewed on The Dana Show at 12:45 pm CDT today (Monday). Webcast at: http://www.971talk.com/Other/streaming.html

1 posted on 08/19/2013 10:01:19 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Were any of you bad boys wearing an obama-the-clown mask?


2 posted on 08/19/2013 10:10:16 AM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: null and void

I woulda if I’d a had one! ;)


3 posted on 08/19/2013 10:11:57 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Looks like they rolled every trooper in that beat plus some local PD.

Surprising they didn’t send an APC filled with JBTs.


4 posted on 08/19/2013 10:11:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: null and void

What was the race of the arresting cop?


5 posted on 08/19/2013 10:12:23 AM PDT by Wage Slave
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To: Da Bilge Troll

I can see where the law may consider such protests an unsafe distraction for drivers.

Keep in mind the speed at which they are traveling.

Very easy for a short distraction to result in disaster.

Thats ALL they would need to shut down the tea party movement for good if a fatal accident were to result from protests.


6 posted on 08/19/2013 10:14:10 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Dana is on NOW talking about the “Overpass Massacree”!


7 posted on 08/19/2013 10:14:55 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: null and void
Were any of you bad boys wearing an obama-the-clown mask?

*Snicker*
*snort*
8 posted on 08/19/2013 10:15:05 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: BenLurkin

Isn’t it amazing that the First Amendment (the right of the people peaceably to assemble) was repealed with no publicity at all? It must have been repealed, right, or this police action (not in the Korea/Vietnam sense) would be illegal?


9 posted on 08/19/2013 10:17:34 AM PDT by Glenmore
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To: Safrguns

THe same government allows huge changing or static billboards along traffic lanes, and allows other groups to put signs over banners, and pass under bridges full of large, readable graffiti that can easily catch your eye.

I think you understand why the charge of being a distraction is merely used as a convenient excuse by government, and is not really a genuine reason.


10 posted on 08/19/2013 10:23:55 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

a caller on ...

says that the Cops only went after the guys wearing “the t-shirts”

http://www.971talk.com/streaming/index.aspx


11 posted on 08/19/2013 10:27:22 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3056309/posts?page=2)
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To: Safrguns
The possibility of a few unlikely deaths on the highway are not nearly as many as the hundreds of thousands, or perhaps millions that could occur under the hideous specter of Obamacare.
12 posted on 08/19/2013 10:27:39 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: RandallFlagg




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13 posted on 08/19/2013 10:27:54 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3056309/posts?page=2)
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To: MeshugeMikey

What did the t shirts say?


14 posted on 08/19/2013 10:29:11 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Glenmore

 

First They Came for the Jews

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

~Pastor Martin Niemöller

Community and individuality are not opposites. People cannot survive on their own. When the odds are stacked against you, you must rally with the oppressed and hated.

When a growing oppressive regime is taking hold, you must act, otherwise you will soon face your enemy alone and hopeless.

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Niemöller affirms we must rally against unhealthy organized regimes. We must also stay vigilant with those that appear to be good natured, as all organisation attracts corruption. Niemöller also warns us that if it is you who are corrupt, then you will face a stronger combined force of foe!

~Vexen Crabtree


15 posted on 08/19/2013 10:31:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: WildHighlander57

Tyranny Response Team

http://www.dailypaul.com/296244/tyranny-missouri-be-thy-name-survivaldoc-tlc-featured-prepper-r3vol-chiropractor-arrested-overpassesorg-sign-protest


16 posted on 08/19/2013 10:32:21 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3056309/posts?page=2)
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To: Safrguns
I REALLY don't want to agree with you ... but I can see, if that doesn't happen, that is the justification, and we may not be able to win that fight.

IDK ...

17 posted on 08/19/2013 10:32:38 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: WildHighlander57




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18 posted on 08/19/2013 10:34:09 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3056309/posts?page=2)
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19 posted on 08/19/2013 10:34:25 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3056309/posts?page=2)
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To: Safrguns

The Occutards and the TreyGone protesters routinely waltzed out into the middle of the freeways and attacked motorists - all with impunity.

If we are so timid that peaceful protests done within the letter of the law is too risky of behavior then we may as well go draw a warm bath and slit our wrists.


20 posted on 08/19/2013 10:39:02 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: MeshugeMikey
says that the Cops only went after the guys wearing “the t-shirts”

Actually, he was incorrect on a couple points. I don't think the shirts had anything to do with it. He also said no one was on the other side of the overpass. This was also incorrect.

21 posted on 08/19/2013 10:42:02 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Gestapo at work.


22 posted on 08/19/2013 10:46:21 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Safrguns
I can see where the law may consider such protests an unsafe distraction for drivers.

Actually, the distraction was the traffic volume backing up from the next exit because of a festival in St. Charles at that time. There were accidents before we arrived and there were accidents after we left. Drivers are responsible - not people on a sidewalk above the road.

23 posted on 08/19/2013 10:46:30 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Da Bilge Troll; Matchett-PI; JulieRNR21; seekthetruth; The Right Stuff; gonzo; mcmuffin; ...
I'm opposed to the overpass demonstrations. I think they're distracting, dangerous in several ways.....and ineffective.

The participants are generally on narrow sidewalks, presenting a danger not only to passing cars ON the overpass but to the demonstrators thenselves who are milling about and jumping around with traffic literally inches away behind them.

I prefer the street corner freeps we used to have....they were effective and were never designed to be calamity-prone.

In case of anyone curious, I've participated in street freeps too numerous to list here....just ask any veteran freeper in our very active Florida chapters about our very effective freeps the past decade-plus.

Though I DID love the Obama masks shown in the photo up-thread!

Leni

24 posted on 08/19/2013 10:48:02 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
The participants are generally on narrow sidewalks, presenting a danger not only to passing cars ON the overpass but to the demonstrators thenselves who are milling about and jumping around with traffic literally inches away behind them.

If you would care to look at the video, you would notice that none of your objections apply in this case.

25 posted on 08/19/2013 10:51:32 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Wage Slave

Creepy Ass Cracker


26 posted on 08/19/2013 11:04:02 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Safrguns

The Lafayette flag brigade hangs flags on an overpass over busy Hgy 24 and many people show up and wave flags in support every Sept. 11. Most of the traffic slows down and honks in support, and this is in liberal bay area!


27 posted on 08/19/2013 11:05:07 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Safrguns

The Lafayette flag brigade hangs flags on an overpass over busy Hgy 24 and many people show up and wave flags in support every Sept. 11. Most of the traffic slows down and honks in support, and this is in liberal bay area!


28 posted on 08/19/2013 11:05:38 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Wage Slave; All
I'm afraid that the protestors, along with many other Constitution-ignorant patriots, do not understand that 1st Amendment rights to free speech and right to assembly are not absolute. This is evidenced by the following excerpt from Thomas Jefferson's writings.

"3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed (emphasis added); …" --Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.

And regardless that the 14th Amendment now limits the extent to which states can abridge our constitutional rights, given that the protestors were distracting drivers, arguably the same idea as drivers being distracted by cell phones, the cops had a reasonable basis to stop the protest imo.

Regarding the miscellaneous charges like resisting arrest, the protesters were decent. I think that such charges are likely routine, CYA on the part of the cops. If a charge doesn't stick, oh well.

Finally, Obama isn't the problem with the country imo. The problem is Constitution-ignorant "patriots" who don't understand Congress's constitutionally limited powers as evidenced by the Constitution's Section 8 of Article I, Article V and the 10th Amendment. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the protestors had never heard of Section 8.

29 posted on 08/19/2013 11:06:52 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Da Bilge Troll
You're correct about this particular overpass. My objections to overpass demonstrations in general still stand, however. I don't like giving the law and over-zealous LE any hooks on which to hang our side.

This particular take-down didn't do a thing for our side in regards to the purpose of the demonstration.....except to afford outrage and drama when the video is seen by a comparative few people.

Leni

30 posted on 08/19/2013 11:07:01 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Da Bilge Troll
You're correct about this particular overpass. My objections to overpass demonstrations in general still stand, however. I don't like giving the law and over-zealous LE any hooks on which to hang our side.

This particular take-down didn't do a thing for our side in regards to the purpose of the demonstration.....except to afford outrage and drama when the video is seen by a comparative few people.

Leni

31 posted on 08/19/2013 11:07:09 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: All

Our local Tea Party have done two overpass protests and were hassled by the La Crosse City attorney when we were clearly out of his jurisdiction.

The idiot did not realize we recorded his threats. We now have an attorney to keep us from being hassled for our first amendment rights on our second protest.

They are now attempting to change the statute to disallow our protests on the pedestrian overpass (we are in a deep blue section of Wisconsin).

http://www.wxow.com/story/23164439/2013/08/17/group-protests-president-obama-on-i-90-overpass


32 posted on 08/19/2013 11:09:40 AM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: Da Bilge Troll
It took me five tries to post my reply to you....on top of numerous "preview" attempts. Then I get a double-post on top of it.

Now you know why I wasn't able to get to the video of the take-down. It's very burdensome to post ANYTHING today.

Leni

33 posted on 08/19/2013 11:12:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Da Bilge Troll

It wasn’t just a festival. It was the biggest event of the year in St. Charles and the 5th Street exit is always a mess on that week-end. Added to that was the fact that westbound 70 was restricted to two lanes due to construction. Announcements were being made all weekend to use either the Page Extension or the 370 bridge instead of the Blanchette Bridge to avoid the congestion.

It will be interesting to see what happens next weekend.


34 posted on 08/19/2013 11:15:26 AM PDT by rwa265 (Compete well for the faith, lay hold of eternal life (1 Timothy 6))
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To: MeshugeMikey; dirtboy
Those TRT shirts were first seen in Colorado after the big gun control push from Columbine. The million mom march folks did not like them. Nor did the Gestapo.

I gave a couple of them to the farmers in Klamath falls, Oregon at a protest over water being shut off to the valley.

35 posted on 08/19/2013 11:17:18 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: MinuteGal

LOL

I just called the St. Charles County Economic Development Center to ask them if they think their law enforcement efforts are going to make companies want to move to that area.

636-441-6880

BTW is anyone else having trouble posting?


36 posted on 08/19/2013 11:24:27 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in in a long time I am proud of my country.)
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To: rockrr

“Dream Defenders” occupied the Florida capitol round the clock, incurring large overtime costs. They also had food brought to them by Capitol Police.


37 posted on 08/19/2013 11:25:24 AM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
I m about to get a dozen of em!!


38 posted on 08/19/2013 11:38:23 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Tyranny Response Team Block Captain)
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To: ladyjane

trouble posting indeed.

something is CLEARLY intercepting the data we are sending to FREEP CENTRAL.


39 posted on 08/19/2013 11:39:47 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Tyranny Response Team Block Captain)
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To: Amendment10

your post was extreme sarcasm, correct? I mean I’ve seen some ridiculous posts here, but this takes the cake so I have to assume you were joking.


40 posted on 08/19/2013 12:52:37 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Ray76

great point Ray!


41 posted on 08/19/2013 12:53:28 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: MeshugeMikey

AMAZON is having problems also. Something is slowing the whole net.
BY THE WAY: to those not is favor of the demos; I didn’t hear anyone asking you to participate. Or for your opinion. As for mine:Why does there have to be only one correct protest form? And since the ‘corner protests’ were effective. has Obama been impeached?
Anyone would say the cop presence was a bigger distraction to motorists than the actual demo.
Make the ‘authority’ justify THEIR actions! We used to be free citizens!


42 posted on 08/19/2013 1:18:37 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Glenmore
I wasn't there, but I suppose if the people on the overpass were distracting drivers then there might be some kind of "safety" issue. At least in the minds of the authorities.
43 posted on 08/19/2013 2:00:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Glenmore
I wasn't there, but I suppose if the people on the overpass were distracting drivers then there might be some kind of "safety" issue. At least in the minds of the authorities.
44 posted on 08/19/2013 2:00:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Glenmore
I wasn't there, but I suppose if the people on the overpass were distracting drivers then there might be some kind of "safety" issue. At least in the minds of the authorities.
45 posted on 08/19/2013 2:00:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

This isn’t directed at you Ben, but regarding the safety issue, it’s always about safety when it comes down to abuse by LE.

Just like when the cops are abusing someone, and a person is 100 feet away with a cell camera videoing and the cops tells them to turn off the camera due to officer safety. Sure.


46 posted on 08/19/2013 2:06:50 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: roofgoat; All
your post was extreme sarcasm, correct? I mean I’ve seen some ridiculous posts here, but this takes the cake so I have to assume you were joking.

Thank you for at least reading the post. No sarcasm intended. What bothered you about the post? Please make a list. I will try to address concerns.

47 posted on 08/19/2013 2:13:01 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Just a couple of points:

Don’t the State Troopers in MO. wear badges? The LEO’s in dark blue uniforms were wearing badges, but the guys in the ‘smoky the bear’ hats were not. I hope someone got their names.

Violation of a citizen’s Constitutionally guaranteed rights, of which the right of free speech and the right to peaceably assemble to petition one’s representatives for redress of grievances are specifically mentioned in the 1st Amendment, is both a Federal crime and something for which the perpetrator can be sued by the effected individual. Get a lawyer, file charges (although we know that Holder’s DoJ will do nothing about it), and SUE THE BASTARDS! All the way up the chain of command from the arresting officer to the MO State Attorney General and the Governor. Maybe you will win, maybe you won’t, but you will force them to take the time and energy (and money) to defend themselves. As a former state employee who has been sued by my ‘clients’, I can assure you this upsets the applecart/rocks the boat, and in the future the agencies concerned will go out of their way to avoid getting in the same fix.


48 posted on 08/20/2013 2:26:56 AM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: MinuteGal

It took me five tries to post my reply to you....on top of numerous “preview” attempts. Then I get a double-post on top of it.

It must have something to do with the missing sidebar issue because it has been going on for three days at least. Constant need to refresh just to get the screen showing a page. Even more of the same to get the your reply page up, and on and on. I managed a couple of hours without a double post, but it is one waiting to happen.


49 posted on 08/20/2013 3:45:05 AM PDT by wita
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To: MeshugeMikey

Two were arrested. The other gentleman had on a Gadsen Flag shirt.


50 posted on 08/20/2013 4:02:55 AM PDT by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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