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To: snarkybob
I remember that GWB could do no wrong here. And supposedly freedom loving conservatives cheered things like the Patriot Act. I also remember the shoutdown of anybody who questioned even lightly the decision to invade Iraq.

And some of those folks had the nerve under Bush to defend the very things they complain Obama is doing.

I posted a bunch of links about the NSA/DOD/TIA a few posts above where you can see FReepers predict the exact things that would come to pass 10 years later.

The really sad thing (beyond FReepers getting bashed for what would come to pass under Obama) is that in hindsight we should have seen all of this coming. The Bush administration grew government and accumulated power like nobody's business, only to be one-upped by Obama.

And now the GOP has shown itself to be hell-bent on electing more people in the vein of Bush - McCain, Romney, and God only knows who in 2016. People who will not restrain the power and size of government, but instead build upon Bush and Obama's "legacy".
29 posted on 08/20/2013 5:43:17 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

“The really sad thing (beyond FReepers getting bashed for what would come to pass under Obama) is that in hindsight we should have seen all of this coming. The Bush administration grew government and accumulated power like nobody’s business, only to be one-upped by Obama.”

The sad thing IMO is how little we really care for freedom.
Plenty of conservatives thought increased government power, and more encroachment of personal liberty was fine...as long it was our guy doing it to people we don’t like. The argument that the power would remain in the hands of the government long after our guy was gone fell on deaf ears and in many cases caused the people making that argument to become quite angry

The very things that are causing outrage here now were fine when GWB did them. There wasn’t any outrage then because it was our political opponents who were screaming. The bigger principle didn’t seem to mean diddly squat.
We all helped screw it up conservatives and liberals.
I have a liberal co-worker that hates Obama because he’s doing so many of the things that they protested GWB for...and then I have liberal co-workers who think that as long as it’s their guy doing warrant less taps and civilian surveillance it’s A-OK.


31 posted on 08/20/2013 9:20:22 AM PDT by snarkybob
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