Posted on 08/19/2013 5:09:02 PM PDT by SMGFan
Not all, but many actually were and most of the publicity about them was overblown and cherry picked to make them out to be even worse than they actually were.
Ok, riddle me this. Take any high school yearbook from the 1930’s. Look specifically at the senior boys. In the 1930’s they were quite obviously men. They had square, chiseled jaws, 5 o’clock shadow and if you’ve heard anyone from that generation their voices were clearly that of grown men. Deep and resonant.
Now, take the high school yearbook for the year 2012. None of the boys have chiseled square jaws, none of them have really any body hair at all. Even IF they’re not busy waxing it all off. And their voices are those of 13yr old boys in days gone by.
I’m sure that’s all down to bad parenting. Maybe if they’d been spanked more they’d be more masculine!
SOMETHING is poisoning the men in this country (and most of the west). And I don’t think it’s because the kids weren’t spanked.
On a side note, have you see the square jaws and aggressive behavior in many of the young women today? I’m sure had they been spanked more they’d be more feminine. PS, a great many of them have some sort of reproductive issues as well. PCOS, endometriosis, thyroid problems, autoimmune diseases. You name it.
Had they only been spanked more maybe they’d have been healthier!
All I did was comment on your throw away line about the tobacco/health studies - which I have been studying extensively for over 20 years.
I have a 15yo daughter, and so am quite familiar with today’s generation of teen boys and girls and so can not accept your generalizations particularly about the boys.........of course I don’t accept generalizations as a rule. While what you say about voices and facial hair has some validity, I think it has much more to do what what they are eating than the packaging in which it comes, although I do not rule out that as having something to do with it. I lean more towards more blame being on HFCS and growth hormones in so much of today’s food and drink.
If you’re accepting my point about the voices and body hair, what exactly are you disputing? Those are secondary sexual characteristics. Lack of them means a lack of sexual development. That’s scary. Something is either delaying their manhood or IMHO preventing it altogether. It’s no coincidence that sperm counts rougly halve with each succeeding generation. It’s not just their ‘appearance’ that’s being poisoned. There’s a reason women are drawn to men with a high degree of secondary sexual characteristics. They’re usually more fertile. You’d be surprised how many MEN in their late 20’s and early 30’s are having to do fertility treatment because they have no swimmers...
Ditto men and women with hourglass shapes. Note all the muffin tops on girls these days. That’s anti-fertility fat going on ...
The point being that BPA and other plasticizers ARE hormones. They’re androgen disruptors. Writ large.
It’s not just ‘this’ or ‘that’ androgen disruptor. It’s all of them. And there’s probably a scary amount of synergism between them. And the effects appear to be intergenerational.
I have neices and nephews in the teen generation. I CAN tell you there are scary gender bender things going on out there. What’s also disturbing is the number of teen girls with ‘cycle’ problems. And the number of kids who are gay, bi or ‘curious’ has skyrocketed. It’s probably 10% at least in the under 20’s. I don’t think popular culture can ‘make’ a boy want to be gay. It certainly wouldn’t have worked in my generation. I worked with teens extensively in the 90’s and even then the kids who were teens in the mid 90’s were quite shockingly more likely to be gay,bi,curious than my own generation. This at least a decade before the popular culture ‘hard sell’ on the issue and in the heart of the bible belt.
As far as WHAT they’re eating. There were plenty of cheetos, oreos and cocolas when I was a teen in the late 70’s. Ditto drive-thrus and tv dinners. Even the HS yearbook pics from 1982 are much more masculine than those in my nephews yearbook in 2012.
If you will peruse the study linked in comment 12 it explains that the obesity and reproductive issues show up in the f1’s (children) and f2’s (grandchildren). That’s this current gen of teens.
Another happy note, glyphosphate (roundup) that’s found in food these days thanks to genetic engineering allowing food crops to be drowned in it, appears to bind the estrogen receptor in parts per TRILLION. That’s orders of magnitude stronger than even estrogen binds its own receptor. It showed up in ‘91 or ‘92. There’s like a step function between kids who’d completed puberty prior to its introduction and those who had not in terms of their relative gender appearance.
And HFCS is loaded with glyphosphate. I’m less certain that fructose is our problem than I am that the glyphosphate chaser we get with it is the real problem.
The amount of ‘growth hormones’ the average kid eats pales in comparison with their consumption of plasticizers and other compounds like glyphosphate. And we won’t even discuss the other related compounds like teflon and fire retardants. Both thyroid disruptors. The teflon compound is even found in ‘easy glide’ dental floss and the lining of fast food containers. It’s in that waxy coating that stains weirdly if it comes in contact with grease.
None of these compounds were in the food supply 75 years ago. Or, largely, even 60 years ago. And the difference in appearance and behavior of humans born before, and after their inclusion in our food supply is pronounced.
< gibbons voice > Cash register receipts make an excellent stew, many parts are edible. < / gibbons voice >
It’s absorbed through the skin from them and most people don’t wash their hands before dipping into the paper bag full of yummy fries and onion rings.
In the aftermath of the disclosure on the existence of Area 51, who knows?
I told you - your blatant generalizations and your throw away comment about studies, specifically tobacco studies.
So cigarette danger is a lie?
And when we’re talking a whole generation, it’s necessary to generalize.
Just look at the yearbooks.
And the halving of swimmers each generation isn’t a specific thing. It’s worldwide. That’s pretty general.
I’m sure it’s just bad parenting though. Maybe if the boys were disciplined and raised by 2 parents (and a stay at home mom!) and in church every sunday their swimmers wouldn’t be disappearing!
Tell the cashier to keep the receipt. Problem solved .Unless one is going to deduct the meal on their taxes?
That solves one source of it.
It’s difficult to avoid altogether though. It’s probably in the lining of the train tanker cars that carry foodstuffs and ditto the tractor trailer rig tankers.
And especially with anything acidic like tomato-stuffs, fruit juices and carbonated beverages.
Where did I say that? I said many of the studies are junk science and most of them are over hyped. And one that point out the over hype or bad science are ignored.
Just look at the yearbooks.
I have, however you specifically stated NONE of the boys have square jaws or facial hair - and that is an over generalization that is just not true.
And the halving of swimmers each generation isn’t a specific thing. It’s worldwide. That’s pretty general.
Then please explain all the teenage pregnancies, which seem to increase each year.
I’m sure it’s just bad parenting though.
You are the only one making any mention of parenting and spanking (you sound like I did at 15 complaining to my mother about my 13yo brother and telling her if she hadn't been so lenient with him he wouldn't have been the terror he was.)
Maybe if the boys were disciplined and raised by 2 parents (and a stay at home mom!) and in church every sunday their swimmers wouldn’t be disappearing!
Now you are just being down right silly.
“I have, however you specifically stated NONE of the boys have square jaws or facial hair - and that is an over generalization that is just not true.”
Now you’re being trivial.
Based on my experience, cigarettes are perfectly safe! My paternal grandfather smoked 3 packs of unfiltered camels for SIXTY FIVE YEARS and died of complications from a broken hip.
My singular observation, or the presence of one or two apparently masculine boys in a yearbook, doesn’t dispute the rule though.
Exceptions don’t negate the rule.
Evolution and natural selection do actually happen in real time. Not all the boys will be sterile. Those that do have swimmers will live to be ancestors. Those teenage girls who aren’t excessively promiscuous (promiscuity is a sign of reproductive incompetence) or have muffin tops at 16 might live to be ancestors as well.
Neither of which does anything for the rest of the population who are quite messed up. Unless you think living in a population that’s going to be 10 or 15% gay,bi,curious and most of the rest of them too effete to be real men or women who are so aggressive and domineering no one can stand to be around them is a pleasant old age?
Teen pregnancies are NOT increasing each year. In fact, the teen pregnancy rate has cratered over the past 5 years. Bigtime. Ever since the girls and boys born after the introduction of glyphosphate into the food supply have matured and become teens. Teen pregnancy rate is lower than it was in nineteen forty six. And in 1946, it was mainly the 17+ group who was married prior to childbirth. And the beginning of the baby boom since their boyfriends had all returned from war and they all tied the knot.
The ‘teen pregnancies’ in 2013 include all age groups starting at the very proiscuous 13yr olds now. And they STILL aren’t having the rate of teen pregnancies that they did in 1940. I’m sure those demographics for whom teen pregnancy is a career move have all decided to go to Jr. college and get an AA degree in bookkeeping. And that generation that texts while driving multi thousand pound vehicles is somehow being responsible with BIRTH control. Or they’re all on the pill. Which I might buy for kids from middle america. I’m not buying that for kids from that ‘career move child birth’ demographic. Their teen pregnancy rates are cratering faster than those of ‘middle america’.
Promiscuity is a sign of reproductive incompetence. Starting with the generation that ‘discovered’ promiscuity, the baby boom. They just barely even reproduced themselves, numerically. Even with all the sex they were having.
I mention the ‘bad parenting’ line because that’s the excuse most often given on this board for the ‘unmanly’ teens and young 20 something boys. And their misbehaviors. ‘Bad parenting’. ‘Single parent homes’. Etc. As if spanking and a 2 parent home will fix what’s BIOLOGICALLY defective.
I’ve had more than one freeper insinuate that if only these 14yr olds were in church every week they wouldn’t be humping like mad bunnies after school and before mom gets home. Yeah, that’ll fix the biology...
Brits, for various reasons, use sugar not HFCS.
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