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Warthog fans rally after Flake revelation
Arizona Daily Independent ^ | August 20, 2013 | Diego Moya

Posted on 08/20/2013 4:01:59 AM PDT by \/\/ayne

A nationwide effort has begun to save the Air Force’s A-10 after Arizona Senator Jeff Flake revealed on the James T. Harris radio show that plans were in place to mothball the craft. Boots on the ground have joined A-10 pilots and crews to save the plane that has frequently saved them.

Fans of the A-10 warthog are circulating a petition in the hopes of gathering 100,000 signatures by September 16. Facebook groups Stand for Protecting Heroes, Keep the A10 in the U.S. Military, and Save the A-10 deployed rapidly in defense of the plane that offers them their best chance of survival in war.

Flake, on a brief visit to Arizona during the Congressional summer recess, was asked by Harris if he would confirm reports that the A-10 was going to be retired. Flake responded that the A-10 would be retired but held out the promise of the F-35 as a viable substitute.

Flake’s candor shocked the Harris’ listeners, many of who work at the nearby Davis Monthan Air Force Base, which is home to the Warthog. The admission sent shockwaves throughout Arizona, and rippled out to the warrior community over the weekend.

(Excerpt) Read more at arizonadailyindependent.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: a10; airforce; f35; flake; warthog
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1 posted on 08/20/2013 4:01:59 AM PDT by \/\/ayne
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To: \/\/ayne

“but held out the promise of the F-35 as a viable substitute. “
lol thats a good one


2 posted on 08/20/2013 4:08:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

MI ANG, sign me up!


3 posted on 08/20/2013 4:14:11 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: driftdiver

Yeah, that’s pretty funny. The Air Force won’t risk that aircraft in a close support role. It’s too expensive.

If the Air Force gets rid of the A-10 with no follow up aircraft capable of doing the job then the close support role needs to be handled the Army. IIRC the Army threatened to do just that the last time the Air Force said it was going to mothball the A-10. Maybe this time it will happen.


4 posted on 08/20/2013 4:14:28 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: \/\/ayne

The USAF isn’t going to risk the expensive F-35A running into flak-traps where it could get knocked down by a lucky shot or a MANPAD. The virtue of the A-10 is that it is tough, relatively cheap and the Avenger cannon is a lot less expensive to use on certain targets.

Using the F-35 on a straffing run is like hooking a Porsche up to your camper for the weekend.


5 posted on 08/20/2013 4:15:04 AM PDT by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania)
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To: \/\/ayne

Congress tried this before and it didn’t float. The Hawg is too reliable and valuable for the CAS mission.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 4:17:48 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: \/\/ayne

Barry would love to see us get rid of the A-10.


7 posted on 08/20/2013 4:20:15 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: driftdiver

Statement is indeed snark worthy. F-35 is the next F-100 jack of all trades master of none aircraft. Designed as a stealth aircraft it won’t meet close support mission requirements that the beautiful Warthog can. I haven’t seen any depiction of the payload but doubt it will come close to the A-10’s.


8 posted on 08/20/2013 4:22:47 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (01-21-13, Obama declares war on The Constitution of the United States)
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To: caver

Barry would love to see us get rid of almost all military
hardware.


9 posted on 08/20/2013 4:24:03 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: \/\/ayne

I have a better plan... mothball ALL demoncrats, obama and 2/3 of the republican party and build America back as the baddest MF’er in the valley and repeal every law passed since 1988.


10 posted on 08/20/2013 4:29:15 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: \/\/ayne
Thanks for the post.
Read an interesting article by, I think, David French on NR.
Perfect ground support aircraft against foes like Iraq and Afgahnistan, but against the enemy it was originally intended for (the Soviets swarming through the Fulda gap into Western Europe), it would have been quickly swept from the battlefield.

Works well against the Muzzies, though, and as they are enemy No. 1, the A-10s are still relevant.

11 posted on 08/20/2013 4:29:43 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Jeff is a flake!

...on a brief visit to Arizona during the Congressional summer recess...

Apparently doesn't live there?

12 posted on 08/20/2013 4:30:21 AM PDT by Road Warrior 04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: YHAOS; GBA
A-10 'Warthog' ... so ugly, it's beautiful ... ping.


Save our Warthogs!

13 posted on 08/20/2013 4:31:02 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: \/\/ayne

The B-52 and C-130 still have roles to play. No reason why the A-10 couldn’t.


14 posted on 08/20/2013 4:37:46 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: \/\/ayne
This is so ridiculous and why I am ready to retire after 26 years: I have absolutely no confidence in my leaders to make non-political, rational decisions.

They want to retire the Hog so that can then say OH....we need the F-35 now more than ever since we don't have a plane that can do CAS.

And then when we get there...they will say...we can't risk the F-35 on the CAS mission.

The generals in the AF are a bunch of PC hacks. They embarrass me. I hope that some of them are reading. YOU EMBARRASS ME. YOU ARE A DISGRACE. YOU DON'T DESERVE TO WEAR THE SAME RANK AS LEMAY and TIBBETS.

15 posted on 08/20/2013 4:40:05 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Psalm 73

In the 70’s & ‘80’s man-portable SAMs were not really up to the task except for the the US Stinger. The Soviets would have been relying on their ZSUs and tracked SAMs for defending the airspace over their armored spearheads. The A-10 would have shreaded them.

Today’s MANPADS are a lot deadlier. But the A-10 design is still the most survivable in the inventory.

But military planners are always extrapolating the capabilities of weapons and they have been thinking the A-10 is obsolete for quite some time now. But all we seem to get involved in is counter-insurgencies and other low-threat air environments where A-10’s, B-52’s and AC-130’s are what the doctor ordered.


16 posted on 08/20/2013 4:46:06 AM PDT by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania)
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To: \/\/ayne
Don't forget to sign the petition!


17 posted on 08/20/2013 4:48:44 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: \/\/ayne
they'd make a hell of a FAC plane...
18 posted on 08/20/2013 4:50:08 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

I doubt the F35 hang time can match the A10 either.


19 posted on 08/20/2013 4:53:50 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Chode

they’d make a hell of a FAC plane...


They ARE being used as a FAC plane.


20 posted on 08/20/2013 4:55:36 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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