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Ted Cruz: Iím not going to get into a legal debate about whether Iím also a Canadian citizen
Hotair ^ | 08/20/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 08/20/2013 7:03:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Oddly enough, per DrewM, the media’s suddenly very interested in this subject and would indeed like to debate it. From where does this newfound respectability for Birtherism spring, I wonder. Byproduct of a typically slow August news month? Or just hassling a conservative with presidential buzz whom they loathe, maybe partly as payback for anti-Obama Birthers hassling Precious for his own birth certificate for so long?

Via Mediaite and MFP, here’s Cruz on the radio this morning recusing himself from further debate on the subject. That’s wise, and I agreed with Ed’s take this morning that he was probably just tweaking the media in deciding to release his birth certificate. But I don’t see the logic in having his spokesman then deny that he’s a dual American-Canadian citizen by birth, as he almost certainly is under Canadian law. That only encourages lefty media to challenge him on it, which in turn will fuel “Can we trust a dual citizen as commander-in-chief?” hysteria on the fringe. Maybe he’s better off doing a just-in-case-I’m-Canadian citizenship renunciation now, to check the box. Four months, no problem. Start the new year off finally free and clear of Ottawa’s sinister America-sabotaging influence.

In other news from a bored, Cruz-hating media, some of his liberal classmates at Princeton didn’t like him.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; tedcruz

1 posted on 08/20/2013 7:03:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Does this mean he’s still a Senator ???

LOL


2 posted on 08/20/2013 7:05:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its a trap Ted.
Move to the Offense and dump the Defense.


3 posted on 08/20/2013 7:06:06 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: SeekAndFind

Ted’s easiest and most logical reply is that he’ll start paying attention to his past when the press completes their never started attention to the drug taking, never been seen at college Obamadork.

You know the Obamadork. He’s the one with photoshopped birth certificates...hidden passports....hidden college records...a “biography” with more holes than a Clinton alibi...and an intellectual ability of a Kardashian.


4 posted on 08/20/2013 7:06:23 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind
The US recognizes both citizenships. He's OK to run.
5 posted on 08/20/2013 7:07:46 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind

“In other news from a bored, Cruz-hating media, some of his liberal classmates at Princeton didn’t like him.”

A least they knew him. With several thousand kids running around Harvard and Columbia, no one seemed to know Obama. He taught Constitutional law, but not one student has come forward and said what kind of teacher he was.

He was editor of the law journal but no one can find an article he authored.

But, nothing to see here.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 7:08:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: txhurl; Servant of the Cross; xzins
What I find fascinating is the fixation to destroy Cruz right here on FR.........

Who ARE these people?

7 posted on 08/20/2013 7:12:18 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Da Coyote

Well written.


8 posted on 08/20/2013 7:13:48 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: SeekAndFind; Squawk 8888
He's a Canadian citizen if the government of Canada recognizes him as one and my understanding of their citizenship laws (which are quite similar to ours) says that he is.I know something about "dual citizenship" having done some reading on the subject.For example,I've recently found that my Dad,and his siblings,were all citizens of Ireland because their mother was born there and in spite of the fact that they were all born in the US.I also found out that *I*,as well as my siblings,are all *entitled* to Irish citizenship because our father was one when we were born.

All *civilized* countries have a mechanism by which a person can formally,legally,renounce his/her citizenship if they wish.Canada would surely have such a law.If Ted Cruz wants to be president he'd be wise to renounce his Canadian citizenship...not because there's anything wrong with Canada...but because some might fear,with or without justification,that his loyalties as President might be clouded in certain situations (like when Congress declares war on Canada).

9 posted on 08/20/2013 7:19:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: Lakeshark
What I find fascinating is the fixation to destroy Cruz right here on FR.........

Amen to that. That is just plain damn depressing. We have become one screwed up country.

10 posted on 08/20/2013 7:20:02 AM PDT by Reddon
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To: Lakeshark

What I find fascinating is the fixation to destroy Cruz right here on FR.........

*************

I don’t think that is unique to Cruz. There are others that get the same fixation
when their name is the topic of a thread.


11 posted on 08/20/2013 7:21:30 AM PDT by deport
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To: Lakeshark
Who ARE these people?

1. A member of a sect teaching a strict observance of rules, oral laws and traditions that they have rabbinically self-interpreted.

2. a sanctimonious, self-righteous, or hypocritical person.

12 posted on 08/20/2013 7:21:35 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Lakeshark

Probably activists for another candidate...either GOPe’rs, Paul fans, Palin fans, other groups with loyalties to perceived competitors. Also, general trouble makers who just like acting superior because they have deemed some obscure interpretation of the constitution to be fact.


13 posted on 08/20/2013 7:22:08 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Logical me
"The US recognizes both citizenships. He's OK to run."

The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776.....David Ramsay, 1789.

14 posted on 08/20/2013 7:22:40 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: SeekAndFind

My understanding is that there are formal steps that need to be taken to renounce Canadian citizenship and a public statement is not a formal step. I would googled it (I did a few years ago) but the statement has been google-bombed as the top 100,000 links seem to mention Cruz.

These formal steps might not apply (don’t know because of the google bombing) unless he has a Canadian SIN number or some other act that formally ties him to Canada.


15 posted on 08/20/2013 7:23:52 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Gay State Conservative

RE: If Ted Cruz wants to be president he’d be wise to renounce his Canadian citizenship...

If he is a DUAL CITIZEN by birth, that probably disqualifies him from the presidency based on Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution.


16 posted on 08/20/2013 7:23:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Lakeshark

According to a link on Drudge, Cruz announced last evening that he was going to renounce his Canadian citizenship.


17 posted on 08/20/2013 7:25:55 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The few law students in Chicago,not Harvard,who blank for brains was assigned to teach,stated that he was what this site often calls “lo info” re his constitutional law knowledge/ability to teach. They felt was not up to standards.


18 posted on 08/20/2013 7:26:57 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: ilgipper; Lakeshark
Not Palin fans. We'll fight for Ted as hard as we fought for Sarah.


19 posted on 08/20/2013 7:27:57 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Whether it’s technically required or not, dumping his Canadian citizenship would have been the smart thing to do before running for the Senate. It’s how such cases are typically handled.


20 posted on 08/20/2013 7:28:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
"In other news from a bored, Cruz-hating media, some of his liberal classmates at Princeton didn’t like him."

In other news, Cruz has been called the most hated man in the Senate. When liberals and GOPers dislike you, that's a ringing endorsement.

21 posted on 08/20/2013 7:29:13 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How does renouncing Canadian citizenship make you a NBC? Doesn’t he have to dummy up a BC with two US citizen parents?


22 posted on 08/20/2013 7:31:24 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Servant of the Cross; Lakeshark

Well said SOTC....got your “Edmund” on today I see!


23 posted on 08/20/2013 7:31:26 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: SeekAndFind
If he is a DUAL CITIZEN by birth, that probably disqualifies him from the presidency based on Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution.

Yes,I should have mentioned the "natural born citizen" issue.I'm not a Constitutional scholar so my opinion wouldn't mean much.But one thing's for sure...it would be damn difficult for the Rats to wage a "he's not legally qualified" campaign although,on second thought,there's not much that they're not capable of.From what I've heard about Cruz he seems to be an outstanding guy and would very probably make a *much* better President than has Osama Hussein Obama.

24 posted on 08/20/2013 7:31:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I was trying to remember where I had heard the ‘Pharisee’ label before ...


25 posted on 08/20/2013 7:36:17 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: ilgipper
Probably activists for another candidate...either GOPe’rs, Paul fans, Palin fans, other groups with loyalties to perceived competitors.

You may be right. From the comments section: "Rand Paul’s people are also pushing the story: http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2534467 "

26 posted on 08/20/2013 7:36:37 AM PDT by Reddon
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

RE: According to a link on Drudge, Cruz announced last evening that he was going to renounce his Canadian citizenship.

Yes he did. It’s been discussed in FR too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3056468/posts

If people are making a big fuss out of a junior Senator’s circumstance of birth, this just tells me one thing:

There couldn’t be more of a sure sign that Ted Cruz is running for president in 2016:


27 posted on 08/20/2013 7:38:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Reddon

This is why I can easily revert to hating the Paul bots....they never ever run against the Democrats. They have yet to learn that the way to win a Republican primary while allowing yourself a chance to win the general election...is to put points up on the board against the Democrats IN THE GOP PRIMARY!!!


28 posted on 08/20/2013 7:50:40 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Da Coyote

Ted needs to make public note that since the current President was born in parts unknown at least we all know where he was born.


29 posted on 08/20/2013 7:59:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Lakeshark
Who ARE these people?

People who won't modify the truth to fit their ideas of political expediency. D@mn those people with ethics!

30 posted on 08/20/2013 8:08:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: ilgipper; Servant of the Cross; Lakeshark
Also, general trouble makers who just like acting superior because they have deemed some obscure interpretation of the constitution to be fact.

This is so true, and in fact, they've showed up now on this thread - doing their usual, which is to cloak themselves in some sort of faux self superiority both morally and Constitutionally - decrying anyone who interprets the Constitution in any way a jot or tittle differently than they do as some sort of ethical retard.

Absolute purists like this never consider the INTENT of the citizen ruling, which was for one reason and one reason only: to insure that the person running did not have mixed allegiances. In other words, the technicalities regarding Cruz may be up for debate, but he passes the allegiance test with flying colors. GAME SET MATCH.

32 posted on 08/20/2013 8:57:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Servant of the Cross; xzins
Pharasaical, now that's a word..........a right on target word......

:-)

Didn't someone relatively important warn us about the leaven of the Pharisees somewhere?

33 posted on 08/20/2013 10:33:23 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Lakeshark; C. Edmund Wright; Servant of the Cross; P-Marlowe; DiogenesLamp
. From where does this newfound respectability for Birtherism spring, I wonder

The author wrote that, and I think I know the answer. The liberals love to see conservatives tear each other and their viable candidates apart over obscure legalisms

34 posted on 08/20/2013 10:39:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Timber Rattler; ilgipper; onyx; KC_Lion

I’ve not seen one person on the Palin ping list that isn’t solidly behind Cruz as well. Good catch.


35 posted on 08/20/2013 10:39:35 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Lakeshark

...sounds vaguely familiar, yes....


36 posted on 08/20/2013 11:42:26 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Lakeshark

hehehehe …. you said “tittle” ….. hehehehe

37 posted on 08/20/2013 1:14:49 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Lakeshark
What I find fascinating is the fixation to destroy Cruz right here on FR.........

Who ARE these people?

Nutcases who will tell you they are all about "ethics". Useful idiots for the Hillary campaign. They need to shut up and let the adults elect a President.

38 posted on 08/20/2013 4:20:36 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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