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Group to Sue New Jersey Over Law Banning Gay Conversion Therapy for Minors
Christian Post ^ | 08/20/2013 | Michael Gryboski,

Posted on 08/20/2013 8:15:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A conservative legal group has stated its intentions to file a lawsuit against New Jersey over a recently signed law banning sexual orientation conversion therapy for minors.

Mat Staver, founder and chairman of The Liberty Counsel, confirmed to The Christian Post on Monday his organization's plan to file the suit. "We will be filing suit," said Staver, adding that the suit should be submitted "later this week."

On Monday, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie signed into law A-3371, a bill that would ban the controversial practice of reparative therapy (also called conversion therapy) for minors. A-3371 enjoyed bipartisan support in the Garden State's Legislature, with both houses voting overwhelmingly in favor of the bill. A-3371 was sponsored by Assemblymen Timothy J. Eustace, Herb Conaway, Jr., John J. Burzichelli, Holly Schepisi, and Reed Gusciora. All the sponsors except Republican Schepisi were Democrats.

Weeks passed from when the Legislature sent A-3371 to his desk until Christie announced that he would sign it. In a statement, Christie said he believed government "should tread carefully into this area" and that he signed it with the belief that the well-being of children took precedence. "However, I also believe that on the issues of medical treatment for children we must look to experts in the field to determine the relative risks and rewards," said Christie.

"I believe that exposing children to these health risks without clear evidence of benefits that outweigh these serious risks is not appropriate."

In a statement provided to The Christian Post by the Liberty Counsel, Staver criticized the law for infringing on the rights of parents and counselors. "The New Jersey governor is putting himself in every counseling room, dictating what kind of counseling clients can receive," said Staver.

"This bill provides a slippery slope of government infringing upon the First Amendment rights of counselors to provide, and patients to receive, counseling consistent with their religious beliefs."

Staver also said in his statement released after the signing of the bill that A-3371 was also dangerous broad regarding its language. "This bill is so broad that parents would be prohibited from seeking help for their son who developed unwanted same-sex attractions after being molested by the likes of Jerry Sandusky," said Staver.

"Counselors would only be allowed to affirm these unwanted feelings as good and normal. This is absurd and dangerous. This law would inflict serious damage to children, parents, and counselors."

This is not the first lawsuit the Liberty Counsel has filed against a state government over a ban on reparative therapy for minors. Last year, when California Governor Jerry Brown signed a similar bill into law, the legal group immediately filed suit on behalf of families and counselors.

Charla Bansley, communications director for the Liberty Counsel, told The Christian Post that the decision regarding the suit against the California law was still pending.

"It is pending. We got an injunction, and we are awaiting the decision from the court of appeals," said Bansley regarding the California suit filed last year.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: New Jersey
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QUOTE FROM GOV. CHRISTIE:

“I've always believed that people are born with the predisposition to be homosexual. And so I think if someone is born that way it's very difficult to say then that's a sin. But I understand that my church says that, but for me personally I don't look at someone who is homosexual as a sinner.”

1 posted on 08/20/2013 8:15:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And he has the right to intervene in decisions that should be made by parents because.....?


2 posted on 08/20/2013 8:17:53 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: SeekAndFind

Chris, that is a belief statement. Using your beliefs to squash other peoople’s beliefs is not very liberal of you.


3 posted on 08/20/2013 8:23:52 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: SeekAndFind
Whether you believe it's a sin or not, the homosexual lifestyle is clearly unhealthy.
Why is that not a factor if he is so concerned.

4 posted on 08/20/2013 8:26:28 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bu-Bye Christie....

Once he was caught on camera giving Obama an extended Lewinski he just decided to abandon any pretense of being a centrist.


5 posted on 08/20/2013 8:33:17 AM PDT by Iron Munro (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

What ever happened to “ choice”, and “ keeping the government out decisions between a patient and doctor”?


6 posted on 08/20/2013 8:49:32 AM PDT by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms.....")
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To: SeekAndFind

Christie cast away facts, the testimony of tens of thousands of former homosexuals, medical expertise far beyond his own, the Holy Bible, and his Church. All for his sentiments.


7 posted on 08/20/2013 8:52:48 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: SeekAndFind

When politicians become and speak on bio-genetics, bio- engineering and religion, ie, jack of all trades and master of none - they have crossed the line.

I don’t know his background but I am sure his background is in those areas and he needs to shut up while jumping the shark.


8 posted on 08/20/2013 8:56:05 AM PDT by edcoil ("Thoughts become things - Think good ones")
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To: SeekAndFind

9 posted on 08/20/2013 8:57:40 AM PDT by massmike (At the heart of every Paul-bot argument is the fear that someone will keep them from their weed!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I do not understand why it’s the government job to create a law like this. If people want counseling to help them overcome what they percevie as an issue in their personal lives, how is that anyone’s business but their own? And how is this law not a violation of 1st Amendment rights?


10 posted on 08/20/2013 8:58:49 AM PDT by CityCenter (Pleading the 5th is just so 1972.)
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To: CityCenter
He's kissing up to the light in the loafer crowd to make up the votes HE WILL NOT BE GETTING from his base..... Good luck there fat boy.....
11 posted on 08/20/2013 9:13:28 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Missouri gal

And his sentiments are born out of fear of the powerful and aggressive Sodomite lobby who taste victory.


12 posted on 08/20/2013 9:13:42 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The best thing about this issue is that it has exposed Chris Christie for what he is, a rudderless politician with no certain ideological grounding. I don’t know who he thinks is going to vote for him on a national level.


13 posted on 08/20/2013 9:20:30 AM PDT by Eva
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To: SeekAndFind
Here in Kansas City they want to rebuild KCI. Some don't want to rebuild it but want to remodel and renovate. That's what a political debate should be. People who differ on things like that can live together. People who want to take away your freedom to fix you sodomite kids are dangerous and have to be stopped. They're attacking something precious to me. Something I'll defend if it costs my life or theirs.
14 posted on 08/20/2013 9:20:50 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Missouri gal

Is he perhaps living in a pink closet?


15 posted on 08/20/2013 9:23:05 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Eva

Only thing different with Christie vs Obama is 200 pounds


16 posted on 08/20/2013 9:25:31 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: SeekAndFind
"Gays" can NEVER, ever change.

Just ask Anne Heche. You know, the actress and lesbian who is Ellen DeGeneres' ex. She must still be a lesbian, right?
Oh wait...now she is straight, married and has two kids?
Hmmm...I'm confused, Crispy Creme Christie...tell me again how "gays" can never change.

17 posted on 08/20/2013 10:09:52 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

So if a kid is “questioning” he/she cannot be counseled NOT to try homosexual acts? Only PRO-homosexual indoctrination?

What kind of junk science is this?


18 posted on 08/20/2013 10:42:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: montag813

The same with Bill DeBlasio’s wife, who was an outspoken lesbian until getting married to Bill and having kids. So what happened, how is it that she converted? Driving too close to Three-Mile-Island one day?

Where did the term “bi-sexual” come from? Obviously people can go both ways.

Sex is learned, and wrong sex can be learned, and that is what is happening.

There is no scientific proof of being born gay. It is a canard, the big lie, and they are passing ridiculous laws because leaders are afraid to stand up to the gay lobby.


19 posted on 08/20/2013 10:54:11 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: SeekAndFind
This bill is awesome for gay predators who prey on children.
20 posted on 08/20/2013 12:08:58 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Titus-Maximus

RE: The same with Bill DeBlasio’s wife, who was an outspoken lesbian until getting married to Bill and having kids. So what happened, how is it that she converted?

The LGBT groups have an explanation for this. She was never ‘L’, she’s really a ‘B’ (So is Ann Heche, who used to be with Ellen Degenerate ).


21 posted on 08/20/2013 12:17:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: montag813

RE: Just ask Anne Heche. You know, the actress and lesbian who is Ellen DeGeneres’ ex. She must still be a lesbian, right?

The LGBT groups have an explanation for this. She was never ‘L’, she’s really a ‘B’


22 posted on 08/20/2013 12:19:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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23 posted on 08/20/2013 12:47:06 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: SeekAndFind

Everyday there’s another reason to get government out of people’s lives.


24 posted on 08/20/2013 1:10:01 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are sinners just as we all are, except I do not expect others to accept my sin as a lifestyle and grant me privileges based on it.


25 posted on 08/20/2013 1:37:22 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

What does that mean?

You can go both ways.


27 posted on 08/20/2013 3:09:29 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Titus-Maximus

RE: What does that mean?

You can go both ways.

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Exactly. But then, they’eve added another class to their acronym — Q.

It used to be LGBT. Now it’s LGBTQ.


28 posted on 08/20/2013 3:15:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: chandlerlansing

RE: 33% of gays report homosexual rape in youth. Many gays and lesbians who commit suicide do so because they often were childhood sex abuse victims and many have other copathologies such as antisocial conduct, drugs, etc. Sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth is major cause of homosexual behaviors

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So, how would we ever know the above unless they go through some sort of therapy?

As Michael Brown at Townhall observes:

On a practical level, this means that a 17-year-old girl who was raped at the age of 14 and now feels a repulsion towards men and an attraction towards women cannot seek professional help to get to the root of her feelings, even if her parents back her decision.

That same young woman, however, would be allowed to seek professional help to develop her lesbian identity, even without the backing of her parents.

This is equality under the law? This is tolerance? This is a victory in the war against bigotry and discrimination?

And if this same young woman lived in California and was convinced that she was actually a boy trapped in a girl’s body, she could now choose to use the boys’ bathroom and even play on the boys’ basketball team, without any scientific diagnosis required.

In fact, it would be perfectly legal for her to undergo hormone therapy to help make her more masculine, soon to be followed by sex-change surgery. Yet if she said, “For many reasons, I’m uncomfortable with my same-sex attractions,” it would be illegal for her to receive counseling. What kind of madness is this?


30 posted on 08/20/2013 3:22:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: chandlerlansing

Well said.


33 posted on 08/20/2013 7:25:01 PM PDT by ksm1
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To: SeekAndFind

They are all tangled up in their pseudo sexual science. Face facts, people do what they want to do. They change their sexual preference because it is their choice to do so! I like how they instantly create new biological categories that a person is now born BI? No. They have it wrong, people are choosing to do this, and that is why their castle is built on sand.


34 posted on 08/21/2013 7:12:11 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Every time a double standard is exposed or debunked, lefties come up with an even more egregious double standard. How many organizations, many of them funded directly by the state e.g. educational institutions, have ‘gay or think you might be?’ support centers, counselors, hotlines, etc.? Why is coming out of the closet supposed to come with a fanfare and a party, while declaring there is no closet at all now outlawed?

Boil it all down and it’s more of the same: thought control.


35 posted on 08/21/2013 7:27:29 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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