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Cruz: Americans Could Get "Addicted" to Obamacare
Texas Tribune ^ | Aug 19, 2013 | By Jay Root

Posted on 08/20/2013 11:49:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

KINGWOOD, Texas — U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz has come home to Texas to promote his long-shot bid to defund "Obamacare," warning Tea Party activists Monday that they have only a few months to stop the health care reform law before people get “addicted” to it.

Cruz, who has thrilled his conservative base with his promise to shake up business as usual in Washington, says that once the insurance subsidies kick in at the beginning of 2014, it will be too late to undo the Affordable Care Act.

He said that is precisely President Obama’s goal.

“His strategy is to get as many Americans as possible hooked on the subsidies, addicted to the sugar,” Cruz told a Kingwood Tea Party gathering. “If we get to Jan. 1, this thing is here forever.”

Cruz wants his fellow GOP senators to oppose continued funding for much of the government — even if it causes a partial shutdown — unless funding for the health care law is stripped out of the federal budget. But many Republicans in Washington aren’t going along, and even some fellow Tea Party-backed lawmakers are saying it’s uphill at best.

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1 posted on 08/20/2013 11:49:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Cruz MUST start referring to it as “Democrat”Care”!


2 posted on 08/20/2013 11:50:35 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's exactly what the DemocRATs want, folks...


3 posted on 08/20/2013 11:51:28 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Jim Robinson
KINGWOOD, Texas

Right across the lake from here.

4 posted on 08/20/2013 11:52:22 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Jim Robinson

As long as the subsidies for democratcare are voucher form and not cash payouts (which will never be used to buy insurance), nobody will get hooked. That is unless the vouchers get traded at a discount for cash on the street.


5 posted on 08/20/2013 11:54:44 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I can’t say I agree with Cruz’s tactics. If one house of Congress could refuse to fund a democratically passed law just because they felt like it, that could have long term repercussions. For example, if Piglosi decided to stop funding the war once she won the speakership in 2006. Republicans would rightfully be calling for her head. As long as Democrats controlled anything they could simply stonewall anything if this precedent is set.

The only way to get rid of Obamacare is to get a Republican Senate in 2014 and a Republican president in 2016. As Cruz says, Americans will get addicted, but they won’t be yet by 2016. If we lose in 2016, then it will be the law for good until the system collapses, if the country is even able to survive another Democrat president.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 11:55:07 AM PDT by RB156
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To: Jim Robinson

The left never surrenders, the left never stops agitating, there is no such thing as a “deadline” when they are trying to tear down civilization. Why do people on our side always come to a spot and throw up their hands and say “Well, that’s that. I tried, it’s the law and I will just shut up and accept it now”.

Then we wonder why we lose?


7 posted on 08/20/2013 11:57:45 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson
That's the leftist goal, to have so many people dependent on it so it will be impossible to scrap it.

8 posted on 08/20/2013 12:02:30 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: RB156

I disagree.

If Congress wants a particular mandate funded, then the law should identify the source of the funding and how it is to be collected.

Congress has gotten into the habit of passing laws in one act, and in a seperate act they increase the budget to pay for it.

For example, if Congress declares war, then the declaration of war should state that funding of the war will come from, for example, a $500 billion dollar increase in income taxes. This ties the law with the funding, and if passed together, Nancy Pelosi can do nothing.


9 posted on 08/20/2013 12:04:46 PM PDT by kidd
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To: RB156

If the congress wishes to stop a war they should do it. The constitution reserves the power to declare war to the congress.


10 posted on 08/20/2013 12:05:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

There is a ton of fraud in private healthcare and Medicare - Medicaid. Just think how much fraud we will be paying for when Obamacare is fully implemented.

Charges rare in employee health care investigations

By Jo Ciavaglia Staff writer | Posted: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:00 pm

A Pennsylvania woman claimed her sick brother was her husband when she added him on her company’s health insurance plan. The insurer paid a quarter-million dollars in medical bills before the woman was arrested for fraud.

A Wildwood, N.J., man was sentenced to five years probation and ordered to pay $10,000 in restitution in 2007 after admitting he kept his ex-wife on his employer health plan for at least a year after their divorce.

Now the Bucks County District Attorney and county controller are investigating allegations that government workers fraudulently added ineligible dependents to health benefits. DA David Heckler says once the probe is finished his office will release “everything but the names” of employees, unless criminal charges are filed.

Fraud experts say that it’s not unusual for workers to improperly add siblings, romantic partners, ex-spouses and grown children to their employer health plans, but rarely are criminal charges brought against the ones who do it.

Most states don’t consider health plan fraud a high priority, though it’s believed to be more common than other types of health fraud and costs businesses and workers who are stuck with higher premiums, experts said.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/00redesign/news/crime/charges-rare-in-employee-health-care-investigations/article_d22d2b7c-da07-5d0a-8559-dcd9cbb04e20.html?mode=print


11 posted on 08/20/2013 12:06:57 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: kidd

It should, but it won’t happen. Just like laws passed should cite the provision in the Constitution that allows this law


12 posted on 08/20/2013 12:09:40 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson
Addicted? Naaahhh...trapped.
13 posted on 08/20/2013 12:12:08 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: Jim Robinson

I doubt that many Americans who are used to seeing the doctor of their choice, picking the hospital for their care and having the ability to go to some top medical center for specialized treatment are going to be too happy with Obamacare. Primary care will be reduced to waiting in line at some clinic for a 10 minute visit with a nurse practitioner or physician’s assistant, waiting even longer to see a physician or having access to specialists and routinely being denied care even if it might be life saving.


14 posted on 08/20/2013 12:27:48 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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Defeat Tyranny!
Start Here!


15 posted on 08/20/2013 12:33:22 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Jim Robinson
Cruz identifies a very real possibility. Based upon what has happened as a result of LBJ's launching of Medicare & Medicaid in 1965. The result has been to explode the cost of health services by a staggering percentage, so that a great many older Americans have, indeed, become utterly dependent upon the Federal programs.

The situation is now worse than it was a decade ago, when I wrote this Chapter in the Debate Handbook: Medicare--Panacea or Death Potion?

It is tragic that some of the gutless wonders, supposedly on our side, will not stand up with Ted Cruz against even the most detestable forays in the War against the American heritage. The monstrosity--what else can you call something that has already created thousands upon thousands of pages of regulation that no one person will ever be able to fully grasp--to regiment our people in their most personal & intimate concerns? The devil's brew of the far Left must be faced. We dare not ignore it.

William Flax

16 posted on 08/20/2013 1:02:13 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: RB156
You do not defund it, because you "felt like it." You defund it because there is not one word in our Federal Constitution, which analyzed in context, can possibly authorize the funding of it! People need to stand up for their sacred oaths.

Then when the media smear starts, fight back using every resource we have to reach the largest number of citizens. Never agree to let the bastards define this or any other issue.

Politics is about focus. We have to learn to win the war of perspective & focus; to get others to focus on our points, rather than their points. There are a lot of aspects of this issue that we can turn to advantage; but it has to start with a willingness to engage.

William Flax

17 posted on 08/20/2013 1:08:25 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Jim Robinson
Cruz is the man to beat, judging from his reception in Iowa.

And the RINOs are divided between Jeb and Christie Kreme.

This is our chance. Let's not blow it.

18 posted on 08/20/2013 1:13:52 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: RB156
If one house of Congress could refuse to fund a democratically passed law just because they felt like it, that could have long term repercussions.

OTOH, the law is unconstitutional. So we are justified in using the tools that we have to defund it.

If that isn't enough of a justification, the House members are elected representatives, and they can do what they are permitted to do under the law.

Finally, we're $17 trillion in debt. We're spending money we don't have, which can only result in a cataclysmic economic collapse.

19 posted on 08/20/2013 1:17:26 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Jim Robinson

Americans are already addicted, that is the reason we have Obama and the democrats in power.


20 posted on 08/20/2013 1:41:19 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Jim Robinson

Look what they’re doing now:

Did Ted Cruz, the Canadian, get the kind of healthcare he now scorns?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ted-cruz-birth-certificate-flap-20130820,0,6160343.story?track=rss


21 posted on 08/20/2013 6:29:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Eventually obamacare will become as enticing as going to the DMV, IRS office, or any other government agency. The rationing due to funding shortages will make the assembly line healthcare experience so unpleasant, intrusive and humiliating to consumers that they will avoid seeking medical assistance.


22 posted on 08/21/2013 2:03:04 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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