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Airman Punished for Opposing Gay Marriage Files Complaint
Fox News ^ | August 20, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 08/20/2013 6:42:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Defiant

Because muslims are all sodomites. That is the big secret. As Walid Shoebat stated on the Michael Savage radio show-—the Saudis prefer boys for sex. Same with the Afghanis: http://www.examiner.com/article/afghan-pedophilia-a-way-of-life-say-u-s-soldiers-and-journalists

The Saudis have controlled what we do in this country for a decade or more—and that is why our muslim, homosexual President forced sodomy into the military-—to normalize muslim ethics-—and why the Boy Scouts now is like that homosexual German Boy Scout group in the late 1800s where orgies with the boys in the woods were routine..

.....just conditioning our little boys to think that sodomizing others is “Good” and a “Right”—to take Pride in anal sex for the NWO which is full of sodomites like that John Maynard Keynes. They have to rid us of Christian Ethics-—because that is where the worldview “Individual Rights from God” came from. They want a collective of slavers for their use.


41 posted on 08/20/2013 9:34:17 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: JohnKinAK
“The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing”

AMEN to that!

I can tell from what little I know that this woman is a pathetic excuse for a commander. Unfortunately, this seems to be the norm in today's military. I spent 11 years in command positions during my years in the AF and ANG, and it just sickens me (actually, infuriates me) to see this happen.

He should pursue the lawsuit. He may have a chance of winning, and hopefully get her relieved of command and discharged (a twofer). But perhaps I am dreaming. In any case, the action will definitely cause her a lot of grief, and maybe serve as a warning to the next loser with rank not to try it. If he did nothing, this type of behavior would continue to grow. There must be consequences, otherwise it will happen again and again.

42 posted on 08/20/2013 9:37:35 PM PDT by mesoman7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Major Valenzuela asked SMSgt. Monk if he could agree with her belief that openly voicing a religious or moral opposition to same-sex marriage is discrimination,” the official complaint reads. “Because of SMSgt. Monk’s sincerely held religious belief, he could not agree with the major.

Being prevented from voicing a religous opposition to same-sex marriage is a violation of the !st Amendment ("...nor the free exercise thereof"), and to not be able to voice an objection based on moral beliefs otherwise a violation of freedom of speech.

While I understand rules are different under the UCMJ, one must consider that this is being used to cow the general population as well.

Why should the 98% be subject to sensitivity training, dismissal, or lawsuit, to suit the perversions of the two percent?

43 posted on 08/20/2013 9:56:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

This is now the group “defending” us. Learn Chinese.


44 posted on 08/20/2013 9:58:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Learn strategy, tactics, logistics, weapons systems, as much about as much as you can, and hope there will remain enough competent operators to provide air cover. That could be a DIY war.


45 posted on 08/20/2013 10:05:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pigs ass 2ndDV. We will defend ourselves.You know there are enough of us that wont take this crap.


46 posted on 08/20/2013 10:33:34 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Explain 5 years of Obama, then.


47 posted on 08/20/2013 10:40:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I am surprised that the NCO in this situation didn’t request the see this major’s commander. In the Marine Corps we have the absolute right to “request mast” all the way to the commanding general if we believe that we have been wronged by our immediate commander. Doesn’t the Air Force have this right

There has to be at least one rational leader in that chain of command..


48 posted on 08/21/2013 4:39:06 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

If this punishment for thought crimes stands it would be the mark of he beast.

She could be holding a sign “Punish those who blaspheme Homosexuality”


49 posted on 08/21/2013 4:40:39 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Chainmail
There has to be at least one rational leader in that chain of command

Not necessarily that way any more.

50 posted on 08/21/2013 4:42:16 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think we are talking about two different things.I agree with you that the country,for the most part, is screwed under the likes of bamster and his type.


51 posted on 08/21/2013 4:55:01 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: cookcounty
I would say 100%. should be and deported to the Country of their origin
52 posted on 08/21/2013 4:59:10 AM PDT by sport
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To: GeronL

I warned everyone who would listen that openly serving homosexuals would be a disaster for the services. They are focused on their sexuality, not really on their units or their military responsibilities. I was an investigator for the Inspector General of the Marine Corps and during the late 80s we had the “Lesbian Mafia” scandal where senior lesbians controlled the careers of all woman Marines. It took long, hard work to break that cabal.

Now they have all the power they need plus the protections of being a “disadvantaged minority”. Our young volunteers are in danger from some of their own leaders as long as this sick situation continues.

I am ashamed of our senior leaders for being a party to this atrocity. I am not surprised that this administration pushed this - they want our military power neutered. But I am appalled that our general officers didn’t fight this.


53 posted on 08/21/2013 5:26:32 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama won by democrats cheating. They made sure voting machines in certain areas were rigged, they helped people to vote multiply times. That’s how he won a second term, plus some conservatives stayed home and didn’t vote. Let’s hope this doesn’t happen in 2014 and 2016 otherwise obama will win again.


54 posted on 08/21/2013 6:54:08 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: Chainmail
I am surprised that the NCO in this situation didn’t request the see this major’s commander. In the Marine Corps we have the absolute right to “request mast” all the way to the commanding general if we believe that we have been wronged by our immediate commander. Doesn’t the Air Force have this right

There has to be at least one rational leader in that chain of command..

This was a Basic Training Squadron. There is a rigidly ordered uniformity the Flying Ice Cream Cones must present to impressionable young Airmen.



I feel sure Group and Wing Commanders would not stray far from politically correct Air Force Policy to intervene between the lesbian Squadron Commander and her First Sergeant. There is no "Captain's Mast" in the USAF. Although they play at an Open Door policy, Airmen are told from day one never blind side a Commander. This is only my memory from many years ago.
55 posted on 08/21/2013 5:20:19 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

Thanks for the illumination - sad, though. I always thought that the USAF had it easier - my dad and both uncles served in the Air Force during WWII - but the Marine Corps is apparently a bit more enlightened when it comes to leadership.

When I was a mere Corporal a company commander tried to screw me over and then covered it up. I requested mast to the battalion commander and he resolved the problem efficiently. I remembered that example well when I became a battalion commander myself.

It’s funny: my Air Force dad and uncles considered me a Neanderthal for joining the Corps but little did they know that we had more rights and more respect as Marines! Just a bit more walking and gunfire in the career path..


56 posted on 08/22/2013 5:07:13 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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