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GOP candidates need a better Republican Party
World Net Daily ^ | Augsut 20, 2013 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 08/20/2013 7:10:12 PM PDT by Moseley

Does the Republican Party need better candidates? Or do Republican candidates need a better party? Even now the GOP is choosing candidates for the 2014 election, especially for the U.S. Senate. Primary hopefuls are jostling for position. And the dominant questions are: “Will tea-party primary challengers cost the GOP elections?” and “Who can actually win against the Democrat?”

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But as the GOP recruits and trains better candidates, will anyone train Republican insiders how to run better campaigns for GOP candidates? Do we have a worse, more urgent problem with the Republican establishment and consultant class than with the next crop of candidates?

Democrats defend their candidates aggressively. The same quality of candidate will get better support from the Democratic Party than a similar Republican candidate will get from the GOP.

It’s the Stockholm Syndrome. Republicans come to psychologically identify with the liberal bullies. When a Republican comes under attack, other Republicans hope to appease the media by denouncing their colleagues. It’s like the joke about two men running from a bear. The first says you can’t outrun that bear. The second answers I don’t have to outrun the bear, I only have to outrun you. Journalists attacking the other guy are ignoring me.

Consider Richard Mourdock who ran for U.S. Senate in 2012. Mourdock’s one gaffe would have gone unnoticed except for the scandal about Todd Akin. But Republican leaders jumped in the feeding frenzy, as always.

Can readers find fault with Richard Mourdock as a candidate beside that one gaffe? In 2010, Richard Mourdock won 62.5 percent of the vote statewide in re-election for Indiana treasurer. Mourdock’s 2010 vote grew from 52 percent in 2006.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 2014; primarychallengers; richardmourdock; teaparty
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To: Moseley; Impy; BillyBoy
I will contrast the Akin cult idiocy to a positive example.

The House passed a abortion bill with an exception for those raped as long as they reported it to police, making Dems argue that raped wimmin rarely report their rapes to police, so claiming that its not a real exception.

Now that is how you fight.

A reporter asked Marsha Blackburn about it to put her on the spot and she replies ‘we want to track down who is raping all those wimmin’

Home run

That is the different between fighting to win the issue, and just bombing your own side to help Dems like Akin did.

Anyone can defend her argument honestly unlike yours(Akins) .

41 posted on 08/22/2013 7:33:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Outstanding examples of successful campaign and PR tactics.

That’s the kind of thinking that we need in the GOP, but of course we would have that kind of thinking 1,000 times over across the board, not just in isolation.


42 posted on 08/23/2013 2:32:41 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: sickoflibs
That is exactly my point, why it was so idiotic to take a stand against it in Obama-care. Out of 100 bad things in Obama-care you pick the one thing that no-one opposes not even conservatives,

No, that is the problem including among conservatives.

Conservatives condemn 100 bad aspects of Obama Care, the liberals only want to talk about birth control, AND OUR OWN PEOPLE FALL FOR IT. You -- and you are by no means alone, you are in a very large crowd doing the same thing -- ASSUME that because the news media is only talking about birth control in Obama Care, therefore that is the only thing that Republicans are talking about.

Republicans spend years shouting about all the things that are wrong with Obama Care, but it is like the MUTE button is on with the news media censoring what Republicans are saying.

Then the news media decides what THEY want to talk about, and even you assume that that reflects the choices and agenda of the Republicans.

YOU ARE NOT SKEPTICAL ENOUGH of the news media, my friend, no matter who skeptical and disgusted with journalists you might already think you are. It's worse than you think. Don't fall for the games they are using to mess with your head.
43 posted on 08/23/2013 2:36:26 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: sickoflibs
HA, his exact words were recorded on video “It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down”

EXACTLY! And Todd Akin did not say what you claimed. Congratulations for BUSTING YOURSELF.

TRUE: Todd Akin said -- correctly -- that pregnancy from rape is RARE. It is. We are talking about a very rare situation.

FALSE: You said that Todd Akin said pregnancy from rape NEVER happens. Akin never said that.

TRUE: Todd Akin claimed that "DOCTORS TELL ME THAT..." This was not Todd Akin's opinion or idea or view. This is what doctors told him.

FALSE: You claimed that it was Todd Akin's opinion.

TRUE: Todd Akin noted that some accusations of rape are FALSE. He is correct. Many reports of rape are untrue. For whatever reason -- just like men lie -- women sometimes lie, too.

FALSE: You implied with your "wink wink" comment some insult by Todd Akin about rape along those lines.


44 posted on 08/23/2013 2:41:30 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: Moseley

You suggested that Todd Akin was saying some women “want the rape.”

No, someone LIE about a rape that never happened — just as men also lie about all kinds of things. In fact, men lie about sexual conquests that never happened.

No one said anything about anyone wanting a rape.

The issue is that some allegations of rape are true and some are not true.

Ask Tawana Brawley who still owes money from falsely accusing some white men of raping her, and then later admitting she made up the whole story.


45 posted on 08/23/2013 2:45:41 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: Moseley
OK, lets go through this slowly:

Akin “It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape,the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down”

This is exactly what I said he said that that you denied over and over claiming that the lib media made it up.
Wimmin who get raped cant control conception by their pure emotions anymore than they can consentual sex. That is so stupid.

What a stupid thing for Akin to say in the middle of a birth control debate where Rush is saying that wimmin that support birth control in insurance coverage are sluts.

Are you sure Akin wasnt a covert lib who wants abortion free and legal?
Because that is what he and those who defend him curse us with.

46 posted on 08/24/2013 7:50:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
Wimmin who get raped cant control conception

That comment does not say women can control conception.

47 posted on 08/24/2013 7:59:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
RE:”That comment does not say women can control conception.”

Wimmin’s body having ways of shutting down after sex so they don't conceive means the the above.

48 posted on 08/24/2013 8:09:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: GeronL
See #41 for a positive example .
49 posted on 08/24/2013 8:13:30 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

he never said that women can choose that, the trauma and shock can have that effect is what he means. I think that might even be true, to a small degree


50 posted on 08/24/2013 8:25:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
RE :”I think that might even be true, to a small degree”

The problem is, and its posted by me above in prior comments above this, that he said this stupid thing at EXACTLY the wrong time for us and the perfect time for the libs.

The poster thinks that more defense of him would have saved the day, but Akin just gave libs everything they need to put so-cons opposition to abortion and the birth control mandate in the context they prayed for. That :'conservatives HATE wimmin'.

Now compare with :#41

Lets promote what wins, promotes what makes them lose the issue instead.

51 posted on 08/24/2013 8:36:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
Akin “It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down”

This is exactly what I said he said that that you denied over and over claiming that the lib media made it up.


No, it isn't. You need to sharpen your reading skills.

Akin says: 1) "from what I understand from doctors,"

So he's not telling us what HE thinks. He is telling us what doctors told him.

So what's your problem with that?

If you don't agree with those doctors, that's your opinion. But if someone wants to quote what doctors said, then what's the problem with that?

2) "it’s really rare."

Yes, it is really rare. That is a fact. Pregnancy resulting from rape is in fact really rare.

You claimed that Todd Akin said that pregnancy from rape NEVER happens. He did not say that. Akin said it is rare -- and it is.

3) "If it’s a legitimate rape,"

Ask the Duke Lacrosse players about actual rape that really happened and false accusations. Ask the prosecutor who was disbarred for prosecuting the Duke Lacrosse players.

Are there real rapes and not real rapes? Of course.

4) "the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down”

Todd Akin never said that either a woman can control it or that a woman NEVER gets pregnant when raped.

The quote above is true -- well mostly true. The body does not "TRY" to "shut the whole thing down." There is no INTENTION or intelligence about it.

However, severe stress or trauma -- for ANY reason -- does reduce ovulation. A woman who has suffered stress or trauma, which might include being raped, may experience a delay of ovulation.

Translation: (1) If a woman is not in the monthly fertile period (usually 3-5 days a month) then no pregnancy will result, (2) If sex occurs within 48 hours after ovulation occurred, then pregnancy may result, (3) if sex occurs within 48 hours BEFORE ovulation would naturally occur, then normally pregnancy could result. However, stress or trauma can suppress ovulation. Therefore, pregnancy is less likely to result from rape than from consensual sex.
52 posted on 08/24/2013 8:50:03 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: GeronL

Akin seemed to be trying to argue that most wimmin who use the rape exception are lying, but that’s a very dangerous argument to make in a POTUS year against Obama and worse its suicidal when you are also fighting a popular birth control mandate at the same time, with the Rush unhelpful comments.

But take this years House abortion bill that gives a exception for rape as long as a police report was made.
Witness Blackburns answer to that setup question.

Its brilliant. Its a winner. Teach all GOP candidates how to win their issue.


53 posted on 08/24/2013 8:54:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Moseley

‘From what I understand...”

Then he says stupid stuff.

And we are supposed to want losers like this on our front line jumping into tough political fights?

Stop promoting losing.

Instead train all GOP candidates on how to win their issues and not to help the (my anyway) enemy.

Your ridiculous apologetic explanations will mean nothing when you get us all put in concentration camps by electing Dems.


54 posted on 08/24/2013 8:59:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Now, what would a COMPETENT political party do?

Todd Akin said that DOCTORS TOLD HIM what he said.

If the GOP were a real political party (competent), the GOP would immediately have held a press conference with one or more doctors to say “A-YUP. That’s correct.”

But the GOP establishment would rather throw away a US Senate seat than allow conservatives to advance in the Republican Party. So they were eager to sabotage conservatives.


55 posted on 08/24/2013 9:02:11 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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RE “Todd Akin said that DOCTORS TOLD HIM what he said. If the GOP were a real political party (competent), the GOP would immediately have held a press conference with one or more doctors to say “A-YUP. That’s correct.”

No, a competent political party wouldn't be sending losers like Akin out to blow up their own ships.

If Akin really had a bunch of doctors who agree with this stupid stuff then its his f..ing responsibility to bring them to light to defend him, not the rest of us who have who idea WTF he is talking about.

If Akin had a single Dr behind himon this crazy stuffv he would have used him to keep that hog from taking that KEY SENATE seat.

He had an easy win and gave it to Dems. And you want more

56 posted on 08/24/2013 9:12:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Moseley; GeronL; Impy; BillyBoy
Watch Marsha Blackburn go into the belly of the beast and show how win the argument on opposing abortion.

Rep. Blackburn: Late term abortions should be stopped - ( Jun 18, 2013 MSNBC)

We need real fighters like her not those who suicide BOMB their own side like Akin, Get with it.

57 posted on 08/24/2013 9:42:55 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Moseley; GeronL; Impy; BillyBoy

I just downloaded it and posted it on youtube.


58 posted on 08/24/2013 10:15:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Moseley; GeronL; Impy; BillyBoy
Here ya go, no ads:

Thomas Roberts Rep Blackburn Late term abortions should be stopped (home run by Blackburn) video 2013

59 posted on 08/24/2013 10:21:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Sherman Hale
There was no party during the first two Presidential elections.

Sure, because Washington won by acclimation. Nobody wanted to challenge the hero.

Competitive elections didn't begin until Adams and Jefferson.

-PJ

60 posted on 08/24/2013 10:37:21 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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