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Climate Panel Cites Near Certainty on Warming
New York Times ^ | August 19, 2013 | JUSTIN GILLIS AND GRANT JUNKIE

Posted on 08/20/2013 9:04:17 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

international panel of scientists has found with near certainty that human activity is the cause of most of the temperature increases of recent decades, and warns that sea levels could conceivably rise by more than three feet by the end of the century if emissions continue at a runaway pace.

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The draft comes from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a body of several hundred scientists that won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007, along with Al Gore. Its summaries, published every five or six years, are considered the definitive assessment of the risks of climate change, and they influence the actions of governments around the world. Hundreds of billions of dollars are being spent on efforts to reduce greenhouse emissions, for instance, largely on the basis of the group’s findings.

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Billions of dollars in federal research grant money to tow the party line and keep the gravy train rolling. No conflict of interest there.

These "scientists" can pay the lease on their Audi A6 and McMansion near the University by doing real work. They would say the same thing if we cut off their taxpayer funding.

They are just objective scientists. They are doing this only out of there altruistic philanthropic concern for the wellbeing of their fellow man and our planet.

The whole thing does not even pass the laugh test. The idea that we can change the temperature on a tiny planet in the solar system is laughable.

1 posted on 08/20/2013 9:04:17 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084
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To: Eric Blair 2084
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Global Warming guru Algore – wearing his ever present Nobel medal – is seen here en-route to an important “scientific” conference in Nassau hosted by the UN/IPCC where he was to be the keynote speaker.

Topics on the agenda were to have included “Finding a Good Bail Bondsman,” “Not ALL Criminal Lawyers Are Sharks,” “Changing Careers for Dummies,” “You Want Fries With That?,” “How To Encrypt Emails,” “The Best Prison Jobs,” “Getting Along With Your Cellmate” and “Getting Used to Sleeping On Your Back.”

A sudden – and unfortunate – blast of what the “scientist” in charge of the conference termed “global warming” caused the meeting to be rescheduled until Algore can be thawed some time next Spring – assuming there will BE one.

Our reporter has learned that the influential conservative web site Free Republic has launched a contribution drive to rent a freezer locker in which to keep Gore for the 10 to 15 years estimated it will take for the so-called “mainstream media” to begin covering the Climategate story.


2 posted on 08/20/2013 9:07:45 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

The IPCC is NOT a panel of scientists, although some members may have scientist credentials.


3 posted on 08/20/2013 9:10:23 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Hundreds of billions of dollars are being spent

One really doesn't need to know anything else about why "respected academics" would make a complete joke out of themselves.

4 posted on 08/20/2013 9:10:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can have socialism or you can have America. You can't have both. Pick one.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Isn’t this the group whose emails disclosed that they were fudging the data?


5 posted on 08/20/2013 9:11:14 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: EternalVigilance

Bingo


6 posted on 08/20/2013 9:11:51 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

50 degree nights and 70 degree days in Indiana in the middle of August.

We’n Hoosiers ain’t a-buyin’-it


7 posted on 08/20/2013 9:12:00 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Eric Blair 2084

It is the ultimate display of libtard arrogance to believe that we insignificant humans can change the climate of our Earth. It is not surprising because most libtards consider themselves to be little gods.

There have been endless periods of warming and cooling during Earth’s life. Humans were absent for almost all of these. How do the esteemed propagandists masquerading as objective scientists explain this? They don’t because they can’t.

Atheistic morons.


8 posted on 08/20/2013 9:12:41 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: deks

No. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. :-)


9 posted on 08/20/2013 9:12:53 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

We should be so lucky. The flooding of the coastlines would primarily impact libs!


10 posted on 08/20/2013 9:15:42 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Here we go again!

“Weather changes, therefore, give us money!”


11 posted on 08/20/2013 9:17:48 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Elsiejay
Good point. It's odd that the New York Times would present something that is so blatantly and verifiably false like this.

Rajendra Pachauri, for example, is the chairman of the IPCC. His academic background is in industrial engineering and economics. He's not a "scientist" by any objective measure.

12 posted on 08/20/2013 9:18:05 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Climate Panel Cites Near Certainty Desperation on Warming
13 posted on 08/20/2013 9:19:59 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
It’s late August in Texas and I am ready for a little global cooling!
14 posted on 08/20/2013 9:21:08 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: 43north

Massive, endless (I think) universe.

You are right. STATISTS think that they are God. They can control everything. Even the temperature of a tiny planet in the Milky Way galaxy.

God has a sense of humor. This mocking will not end well for them.


15 posted on 08/20/2013 9:21:32 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Elsiejay
Here's another item that caught my eye:

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change does no original research, but instead periodically assesses and summarizes the published scientific literature on climate change.

So this "panel of scientists" doesn't do any research on the subject matter, but they're presented as scientific experts? LOL.

16 posted on 08/20/2013 9:21:33 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: digger48

Yeah! Last Deecimber, I had to warsh out the fahr place an’ shuv’loff the ruff soes Santa could lan’donnit an’ comest down the chimbley! Brrr! Ituz freezin’ out thar!


17 posted on 08/20/2013 9:22:50 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
It wasn't that long ago that SCIENTISTS were sure Neanderthal Man was a separate species, that no interbreeding took place between modern man and those Neanderthals took place.

Funny, how Environmental Industry has all the political power problems they accuse their opposites of.

18 posted on 08/20/2013 9:23:49 PM PDT by CT (Obama is the product of a shiftless press, LoFoVo, and the conquest of Soviet style public education)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

It’s nearly certain an enormous amount of hot air is being released into the climate by the NYT.


19 posted on 08/20/2013 9:24:48 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Assume all of these lies are true. The cost for coastal cities to mitigate the damages are far less than the cost of deindustrializing the world.

100% bull Obama on display...


20 posted on 08/20/2013 9:25:03 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

In spite of all the evidence, which shows cooling. But this is science — we can’t let it be influenced by evidence!


21 posted on 08/20/2013 9:27:29 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Ditter

If you read the whole article there was one part that gave me some memories. I do remember massive piles of snow as a kid in NJ. Haven’t had the same weather. I do not miss shoveling that stuff as an 11-year-old. :-)

As far as the heat in Texas. As a cowboy fan I can still distinctly remember watching preseason games with Roger Staubach and Tony Dorsett playing in Texas Stadium and it was hot then too.


22 posted on 08/20/2013 9:29:40 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Lots of weasel-words in there to give themselves an out when their fact-free predictions don't happen.

"...near certainty..." But not certain...

"...cause of most of..." Is most vague enough?

"...could conceivably rise..." Or could conceivably fall.

"...if emissions continue at a runaway pace..." What is a runaway pace, and are we there now?

23 posted on 08/20/2013 9:32:48 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Still not 100% nor (not having read the article guessing) even near it.

Close only counts, as they say, in horse shoes and hand grenades, so, still
no sale.


24 posted on 08/20/2013 9:34:08 PM PDT by stanne
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To: deks

“Isn’t this the group whose emails disclosed that they were fudging the data?”
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Yes, from the CRU in the UK. IRC, Michael Mann was one of the instigators. When it was found to be falsified data, Mann was strongly discredited. The term was then declared, “The hockey stick has been broken”.


25 posted on 08/20/2013 9:34:27 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Can’t they just declare certainty and then threaten to imprison or execute anyone who says otherwise?


26 posted on 08/20/2013 9:35:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I wish I was a scientist so I could cash in on one of those fat government paychecks.

Anybody know how this scam works?


27 posted on 08/20/2013 9:37:49 PM PDT by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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To: Psiman

You say man caused global warming and get a grant

anything else and you don’t matter


28 posted on 08/20/2013 9:40:38 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Eric Blair 2084
international panel of scientists has found with near certainty that human activity is the cause of most of the temperature increases of recent decades, and warns that sea levels could conceivably rise by more than three feet by the end of the century if emissions continue at a runaway pace.

And they make this "warning" in the absence of any hard evidence to support their claim. Satelite temperature data has proven that the earth has returned to a cooling pattern since the late '90s.

But, tell the story often enough and it becomes the truth. Only, we have the emails proving fraud, lying, manipulation and outright manufacturing of climate "data" to match the AGW hoax narrative.

Climate "scientists" the ship has sailed. You'll have to find another boat to book passage on.

29 posted on 08/20/2013 9:44:01 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: Alberta's Child

“It’s odd that the New York Times would present something that is so blatantly and verifiably false like this.”

Methinks your may be crediting the Times unduly.


30 posted on 08/20/2013 9:45:43 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: deks

they have no way to exist, except w/BIG gub-mint grants


31 posted on 08/20/2013 9:46:38 PM PDT by stickywillie (how come there are no father-in-law jokes?)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

You know what make global warming go up?

Funding makes global warming go up.


32 posted on 08/20/2013 9:50:31 PM PDT by oyez (Hell is a gun free zone.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
I'm still waiting for one of them to explain how carbon dioxide, which plants need for photosynthesis, and use to produce oxygen, is a "greenhouse" gas. If it really is causing gloBULL warming, then I want them to explain how we humans are at fault, being as all industrial activity combined produces only about one half of one percent of the carbon produced on Earth per year (the rest of it being produced by nature itself).

Then I want them to reconcile the reports from the British Meteorological Office and other sources that show the Earth's average temperature hasn't increased one iota since 1997, and may even be on a slight downward trend.

I'm not holding my breath.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

33 posted on 08/20/2013 10:01:06 PM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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The draft comes from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a body of several hundred scientists that won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007,...

This statement is so blatantly false that it seems to have been written by a not too bright 12-year-old with delusions.

34 posted on 08/20/2013 10:03:19 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

New tagline...


35 posted on 08/20/2013 10:05:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Defund "climate change" and the Left will never mention it again.)
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For laughs, look up how the 90%, now 95%, 'certainty' figure was arrived at.
36 posted on 08/20/2013 10:16:38 PM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: EternalVigilance

Not the left per se. The environmentalist wing of the left will NEVER give up until the remaing 300,000 humans on the planet live in their utopian harmony with bears and fight them without guns for salmon swimming upstream.

That’s childs play though. The taxpayer funded research grant junkies in academia have nowhere else to go. They can’t get a real job working.


37 posted on 08/20/2013 10:26:30 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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“Near Certainty”. In other words “we’re still guessing”.

When they’re ready to go for certain certainty, I’ll pay attention. Not believe, mind you, but pay attention.


38 posted on 08/20/2013 10:30:29 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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human activity is the cause of most of the temperature increases of recent decades, and warns that sea levels could conceivably rise by more than three feet by the end of the century...

There are four serious problems with that statement.
First, the absolute statement is made based on computer simulations performed by academics known and proven to be dishonest manipulators of the input parameters.
Second, the "projections (guesses)" are always defined into the far future such as to make it impossible to demonstrate the incompetence of the process.
Third, the promoters of the sea level rise have revised the previous "certain" prediction of 20 feet (!).

Fourth, the fraudulent "scientists" fail to address and explain the much much hugher previous documented rises in sea level known to have occurred over known geologic history, before any possible contribution by "human activity."

Meanwhile, real scientists with a lifetime of achievement, are ignored.

Devastating Rising Sea Level Fraud Rebuttal --- by a real Science Expert

So what's wrong with that picture?

39 posted on 08/20/2013 10:31:33 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Cruising Speed

Yep, change the confidence interval or 500 other things. You can make any study say whatever preconceived result you want.

The hard part is getting the sheeple to buy it and not question it. That’s what the state run media does.


40 posted on 08/20/2013 10:37:35 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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i cite the fact 100 years ago all doctors believed the appendix was vestigial as well as the coccyx.

and how many times have they been certain eggs are bad, and then good.

now can we stop trying to say consensus equals genuine scientific proof, or do we have to wait 100 years for this to be debunked.


41 posted on 08/20/2013 10:53:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: piytar
Assume all of these lies are true. The cost for coastal cities to mitigate the damages are far less than the cost of deindustrializing the world.

You nailed it.

42 posted on 08/20/2013 10:58:49 PM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I think the liberal, fraudulent science Bullshit will be much higher than any rise in sea levels. A good pair of waders is in order, with a lot of air freshner too.


43 posted on 08/20/2013 11:14:43 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Eric Blair 2084

These same scientists get caught in bold face lies then just keep repeating them. They have no shame whatsoever. If they truly believed their own BS they’d be telling obama to park all the AF One aircraft and all the First Dog helicopters.


44 posted on 08/20/2013 11:41:22 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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Hey, gurus, didya notice that the past week was like 20 degrees below normal in the southeastern states?

Basically, this constant drumbeat of doomtalk from recycled experts forever saying the same things are just about to start happening, when contrasted with reality, makes one wonder about both their sanity and the mental acuity of the mainstream media who lap this up like mother’s milk.

We are being hosed big-time on these issues and the best response is to defund then place on ignore.


45 posted on 08/20/2013 11:52:53 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

“Grant Junkie” is the co-author of this article. Is that real, or a joke name
- like Naughteous Maximus or Biggus Diccus?


46 posted on 08/20/2013 11:55:03 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: rfp1234; Eric Blair 2084

I’ve got two unrelated masters degrees, one an MBA, in which the study of statistical analysis introduced me to how errors can occur within the scientific realm.

Sorry, but the data used by current so called climate science is anthropormorific in nature and extrapolates a data field that is just too incomplete to draw definitive conclusions....

Its a “follow the money” scam to make a few Al Gore’s rich...with no basis in REAL science.


47 posted on 08/21/2013 12:22:22 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: oyez

You said it!

Global warming is man made.

It is caused by government funding.


48 posted on 08/21/2013 12:52:38 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Pay no attention to that big fusion reactor act the center of the solar system!

49 posted on 08/21/2013 3:24:54 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

“Near certainty” is just pulling a wish out of a dark and stinky place!

“A panel of international scientists met with Queen Isabella and told her that there is “near certainty” that Columbus will sail off the edge of the world if she funds his expedition”.


50 posted on 08/21/2013 4:41:39 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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