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Tesla Model S scores highest marks ever on U.S. crash testing
yahoo.com ^ | August 20, 2013 | Justin Hyde

Posted on 08/20/2013 9:10:28 PM PDT by grundle

As much as electric car builders hail their vehicles as the future of transportation, one question they couldn't answer fully was just how well their vehicles would withstand a crash. Automakers have spent decades finessing their chassis; what happened when an engine-less vehicle went head-on into a barrier wasn't clear, and as the post crash-test smoldering of a Chevy Volt demonstrated, the batteries posed new challenges.

Leave it to Tesla to provide the first hard evidence — with data from U.S. government tests showing the Model S sedan may be the most crash-proof passenger vehicle on the road today.

Normally, Tesla's garnering of five stars on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's crash tests wouldn't be a headline; most new cars and trucks get at least five stars in frontal crash protection and four stars in side impact. But the Model S did better than that; it got five stars in all tests; front, side impact, pole and rollover prevention. Plus, the scores of its frontal, side and rollover test combined were higher than any car ever crashed by NHTSA — and according to Tesla, at one point the testers nearly broke their equipment trying to damage the Model S.

For its front crash tests, NHTSA runs vehicles into a wall at 35 mph. Most cars use a combination of crumple zones — often pieces of their steel frames that look like accordion bellows — air bags and engine mounts that send the motor underneath the car to protect passengers. Since the Model S has no engine up front, it has more space for crumple zones in its aluminum chassis.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; cars; elonmusk; environmentalist; governmentmotors; greenagenda; musk; obama; subsidy; tesla; teslamodels; teslamotors; tolerance
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1 posted on 08/20/2013 9:10:28 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

as soon as I can scrape together that last 49k I will own a Tesla!


2 posted on 08/20/2013 9:16:36 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: grundle

Every new auto assembly plant gets a chance to advance the state-of-the-art in automation and technology, but Tesla had more money than most, and did an amazing job of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_lfxPI5ObM

You can get a pretty good idea of how the car is designed by watching it being assembled. Not a lot of low-skilled jobs in this factory.


3 posted on 08/20/2013 9:22:39 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: grundle

You couldn’t give me one.


4 posted on 08/20/2013 9:29:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: grundle

They are gorgeous. Might be the wife’s next car.


5 posted on 08/20/2013 9:34:25 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: grundle

Maybe Musk will buy the Nobel peace prize next.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 9:39:55 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You couldn’t give me one.”

Consumer Reports highest scoring car ever. Best crash tests ever. Great looking exterior and interior. Current owners love it. 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. Priced too high for me or I’d buy one in a second. But you would not take one if it was given to you? I really don’t understand why fellow conservatives are so against electric vehicles. Yes there are the government subsidies but do you want liberals to get all the money? This is exciting technology that still is in it’s infancy but the Tesla Model S and Nissan Leaf are amazing vehicles. Test drive a Leaf. You will surprised what a nice car it really is.


7 posted on 08/20/2013 9:45:05 PM PDT by willk
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To: grundle
The early Oldsmobile Aurora broke the auto crash test machine They had to test it on the one built for trucks
8 posted on 08/20/2013 9:45:37 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: grundle
As soon as they build a 4x4 pickup that has the off-road capability of my F-150, is as reliable, has the same cost of ownership (or lower), can go as far on a charge as I currently go on a tank of gas, can be fully recharged in the same amount of time it currently takes me to fill my tank, and has a similar price tag, I'd be in the market for one.

I'm not holding my breath.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

9 posted on 08/20/2013 9:53:12 PM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: willk

Does it come in a woody model?

10 posted on 08/20/2013 9:54:27 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: willk

From my statement you assumed that I was against electric vehicles? Nope, I said I wouldn’t take a Tesla. Do you have any idea what it’ll cost to replace those batteries? To install a charger in your garage? To charge the batteries? Do you have AAA to tow you constantly when the batteries run out? Did you know they only tow someone X number of times a year? What are insurance costs for such an expensive vehicle? Nice toy for someone like George Clooney who has a stable of cars. A daily driver? Hardly. Maybe someday.


11 posted on 08/20/2013 9:55:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: grundle

2015 the turbo Honda Civic hits the market with an avg 60 MPG at 300 hp. Sweet.


12 posted on 08/20/2013 10:01:49 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: willk

I’d take one to.

I look at it for what it is a high priced sports car...some folks would never buy a Corvette or even a Mustang for that matter..let alone a Tesla or Lamborghini

Unless you live in a big city the electrics are not going to be daily drivers for awhile, but I suspect they will get there much faster than most here suspect.


13 posted on 08/20/2013 10:06:54 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: grundle

Anyone tech junkies like me, following Tesla closely? I’m pretty excited for Tesla esp with their expansion of Tesla station around US. Being stuck in the middle of nowhere will be a thing of the past


14 posted on 08/20/2013 10:09:04 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

15 posted on 08/20/2013 10:14:23 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

Do you know the average miles per charge on a Tesla?

Just wondering and too lazy to look it up.


16 posted on 08/20/2013 10:27:49 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
2015 the turbo Honda Civic hits the market with an avg 60 MPG at 300 hp. Sweet.

Had a 2004 Honda Civic si that I loved. Put 240,000 miles on it. I may have to pick up one of these Honda Turbos....

17 posted on 08/20/2013 10:38:10 PM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Damn...! It looks like the Civic type R is only being released in the European market....


18 posted on 08/20/2013 10:42:32 PM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: hirn_man

a range of up to 265 miles (426 km) per charge


19 posted on 08/20/2013 10:42:48 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: hirn_man

Tesla supercharger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TszRyT8hjJE


20 posted on 08/20/2013 10:45:20 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: freebilly

The US release is scheduled for the 2015 model year. They’ve had the type R in Europe for years.


21 posted on 08/20/2013 10:47:45 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and in case it all burns the house down? and what if your charging finally overloads the neighborhood’s almost-guaranteed undersized transformer?


22 posted on 08/20/2013 10:49:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You couldn’t give me one.

Very well said and absolutely spot on.

23 posted on 08/20/2013 10:50:36 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Type R went out of production in 2010. Re-introducing it to the European market in 2015 according to several websites I just checked. Hope I’m wrong....

http://www.carsreviews2014.com/2015-honda-civic-type-r/


24 posted on 08/20/2013 10:52:44 PM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: grundle

Who did the tests? If the government or Tesla, I’d say they might be suspect.

Still a good looking car for a coal burning car.


25 posted on 08/20/2013 10:53:10 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: 4rcane

Thank you. That is a litle more impressive than a Volt.

Of course you can leave your keys in a Volt and not worry about someone stealing it.


26 posted on 08/20/2013 11:00:55 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man

And if they do, they won’t get very far.


27 posted on 08/20/2013 11:02:01 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Thats the thing greenies never talk about. They think that electricity just magically appears from the receptacle and never consider how it is produced.


28 posted on 08/20/2013 11:04:44 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: grundle

Over 50% Of Electric Cars Sold In US Are In 5 Cities
http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/19/top-electric-car-cities-us/#IimFG8E1jBCifPju.99


29 posted on 08/20/2013 11:25:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That really says it all and thanks for pointing it out. Those five anti-American places are dens of liberalism and sodomy. No thanks — no Tesla.


30 posted on 08/20/2013 11:35:53 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My suggestion to freerepublic readers. Don’t treat Tesla like other junk electric/hybrid car companies out there. Read up on Tesla. They’re going in the right direction


31 posted on 08/20/2013 11:37:34 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/05/25/obamas-tesla-sports-car-still-sends-americas-children-to-bed-hungry-and-stupid/


32 posted on 08/20/2013 11:40:51 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: 4rcane

My objection is not to their build quality. It’s obviously high if those ratings are real. It’s that fact that a $62,000 plus car that only goes 200 miles and then must be charged FOR HOURS is not practical for much of the driving we do in this country. When a Tesla can approach the range that a Ford Pinto or Chevrolet Vega can achieve and get the price down to what other brands charge, then I’ll reconsider.


33 posted on 08/20/2013 11:45:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree that price is high, but if you read further. Tesla have 3 stages of car release. 1. high price, low volume, 2. medium price, medium volumn 3. low price high volume.

Wait 3-4 years and they will have a car thats approx $30k. They need the rich and early adopters to fund future development

I agree that the government loan was really bad, but at least they repaid the loan in full very quickly (9 years earlier than they need to) after the criticism they got


34 posted on 08/20/2013 11:57:04 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger

Check these out. Currently about 20-25 mins per charge or 1.5 mins for battery swap. Pretty impressive

And some demos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5V0vL3nnHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TszRyT8hjJE


35 posted on 08/21/2013 12:16:21 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

The reason some here don’t Tesla, is it’s a California-based company.

BTW, the acceleration on some models basically blows away most of the gas powered stuff off the road.


36 posted on 08/21/2013 12:18:39 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 4rcane

It’s a solution without a problem. If we have to burn coal or natural gas to power generators that make electricity (and coal is being quickly made illegal) how does that change where we were with gasoline and diesel powered vehicles? They are a proven technology with over a century of constant use. If someone were able to invent a solar or hydrogen powered vehicle with decent range, that’d be a game changer.


37 posted on 08/21/2013 12:23:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: grundle
Wait.

So, it only has enough juice to get me to my in-laws', assuring I'll need to stay overnight to charge it, then further has the nerve to keep me alive if I try to cut my trip short into the nearest brick wall?

No thanks.

38 posted on 08/21/2013 12:26:24 AM PDT by Squeako (The radicals are the wolves. The moderates are the wolves in sheep's clothing.)
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To: 4rcane

What’s it going to be like when desperate Tesla owners line up at those “superchargers” on a holiday weekend and find out that it’s going to cost them hours to get moving again?

What happens at night or on a cloudy day?

Free forever? I don’t believe it.


39 posted on 08/21/2013 12:43:36 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: freebilly

Hard to sort out the European articles on this vs the US ones. Friend of mine is associated with building some of the turbo parts for the Civic and they’re for the US model.


40 posted on 08/21/2013 12:48:30 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I would count on the US version to be somewhat less capable than what the rest of the world gets.

The Civic is now the 2nd most stolen car in America. This should move it up into the top spot.

I know someone who had his Civic Si stolen right out of his locked garage.


41 posted on 08/21/2013 1:08:03 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: dragnet2
The reason some here don’t [like] Tesla, is it’s a California-based company.

What makes you think that?

42 posted on 08/21/2013 1:09:20 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: willk
I really don’t understand why fellow conservatives are so against electric vehicles.

I'm not against electric vehicles. They are fine where they are fine. I already pay highway taxes when I buy fuel, so I'm not a fan of paying tax credits for people to buy vehicles which won't pay those same fuel taxes.

I can also see the increased demand for electricity driving those rates up, and the increase of using natural gas vs. coal to generate electricity driving up the cost of my primary home heating fuel. I am against electric cars being mandated for everyone (If you don't thing the same people who are insisting global warming is a crisis even after well over a decade of no warming will push for mandating these things, you haven't been keeping up).

I live in North Dakota, and frankly, EVs are a deathtrap at this latitude and for my situation. When the places you travel are 120 plus miles apart, and that has to be done for half of the year with the heater on and likely lights as well, the battery packs just won't be enough, especially hauling a half ton or more of equipment.

If you get stranded without heat you can freeze to death (-30 temps are not uncommon in winter, and I have seen -60) and I have known a couple of people who did.

If you want an EV, fine and dandy, but I don't want to have to subsidize it.

43 posted on 08/21/2013 1:18:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 4rcane
a range of up to 265 miles (426 km) per charge

How far with the heater running full tilt and the lights on?

44 posted on 08/21/2013 1:20:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Its not that Conservatives that are against electric cars, but they’re skeptical of the promoters of it. Given the history of dishonesty from the Left. I agree with them, but I treat Tesla as the exception. I don’t like Volt or Leaf, but Tesla approach is much better than any competitors


45 posted on 08/21/2013 1:24:35 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: dragnet2
BTW, the acceleration on some models basically blows away most of the gas powered stuff off the road.

All very nice, but I can get 650 to 700 miles down the road before I have to stop for fuel--and haul a ton of stuff, too. Slow and steady and all that.

46 posted on 08/21/2013 1:24:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 4rcane

Apart from the obvious issues, the Volt is a far more practical car than the Tesla or Leaf in today’s environment.

You get less range on battery, but you have the gas engine as backup.

Tesla and Leaf are dead on the road when the battery dies.


47 posted on 08/21/2013 1:29:43 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I don’t know, but I don’t think it be any different to how much gasoline car use elec batteries to power the light etc


48 posted on 08/21/2013 1:31:26 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane
Sorry, I intended for the I really don't understand why conservatives are against electric vehicles to appear in italics. Bad HTML tag...I was quoting another poster.

They are not yet practical for this latitude and climate (North Dakota), and may never be.

At this stage of development, I would not stake my life on one, and you stake your life on your vehicle when traveling in winter here, more often than not--even with the additional traffic of the oil boom.

49 posted on 08/21/2013 1:32:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I was looking at an Elio. Would not go on a long trip with it, but for around town or shorter trips in the 300 mile range it would be great. They are basically an encapsulated three wheeler with heat, A/C, three airbags, 1 passenger seat behind the driver. They get 84 mpg, hold 8 gal gas, will do over 100 mph, and all for $6,800.00

Www.eliomotors.com


50 posted on 08/21/2013 1:33:04 AM PDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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