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Manning sentenced to 35 years in WikiLeaks case
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Posted on 08/21/2013 7:22:22 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Clint N. Suhks

He’ll be out in about 11 years. Serve about 1/3 of 35 years less 3+ years credit.


51 posted on 08/21/2013 8:23:19 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Perdogg

I’m tired of the ‘pansy female judge’ BS. Hasan trial has a USELESS, GUTLESS female judge too. Tired of it. Female military judges SUCK (not literally).


52 posted on 08/21/2013 8:24:54 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 2harddrive

midway


53 posted on 08/21/2013 8:24:58 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I read story. It said he was acquitted of the offense of aiding the enemy which, if found guilty of it, would have made him ineligible for parole. I am just reporting what I read.
54 posted on 08/21/2013 8:25:46 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: COBOL2Java

What is the white thing in the middle of the corner wall? Is that where they slide the food tray in and out?


55 posted on 08/21/2013 8:32:56 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The military doesn’t do time for good behavior. 35 years is 35 years.


56 posted on 08/21/2013 8:34:19 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I’m guessing that’s his light source.


57 posted on 08/21/2013 8:37:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: GIdget2004

Things have indeed changed.

“Manning has been in confinement for 1,294 days, including 112 days sentencing credit which he was granted when the judge found that he had been subjected to unlawful pretrial punishment during his nine months of confinement at the brig at Marine Corps Base Quantico. This time will serve as credit and reduce his sentence to just over thirty-one and a half years.

“Manning is unlikely to serve his entire sentence in prison. He will immediately be able to petition for clemency from the court martial Convening Authority Major General Jeffrey Buchanan. A clemency and parole board in the Army can look at his case after a year. After that initial review, he can then ask the board to assess his sentence on a yearly basis for clemency purposes.

“Manning has to serve a third of his sentence before he can be eligible for parole. Appeals application to the Army Criminal Court of Appeals will automatically be entered after the sentence is issued. If Manning or his lawyers do find issues to press, they can take the case to the Court of Appeals of the Armed Forces and then possibly the US Supreme Court.

There is “good behavior” credit, which can be as much as ten days for each month of his confinement.


58 posted on 08/21/2013 8:38:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I was closely involved in the Clyde Conrad spy caper in the 8th Infantry Division in Bad Kreuznach in the 80’s. Clyde and his four junior enlisted accomplices worked for me, I was a part of the investigation to discover who the spy/spies were, and I was the first prosecution witness at his German trial.

Clyde was convicted by a German court and died in prison.

Kelly Warren, a female soldier, was sentenced in Federal Court to 25 years in 1999 and reportedly was released from Federal Prison in 2011. Rod Ramsay, Clyde’s right hand man, was also tried in Federal Court and received a sentence of 36 years. I think that he is still in Federal Prison, but I’m not sure.

Manning will be coming to Leavenworth, probably tonight on an Army aircraft. He will be taken to the new disciplinary barracks on the north end of post and will be inprocessed. He will stay in the DB until his military appeals process is complete. At that time, he will be discharged from the Army and will be transferred to a Federal Prison. Given the history of the Conrad gang, my guess is that he may be released sometime down the road.


59 posted on 08/21/2013 8:52:31 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Cheerio

Should be facing a firing squad. AND his superiours should be charged also for allowing him access to this trove.

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Exactly!


60 posted on 08/21/2013 9:07:05 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: RedMonqey

“...the government had to prove his intent was to pass info directly to, not indirectly, specific known enemy spies, ...”

Don’t think for a moment HE didn’t know that ahead of time. He was coached on what and how-to.

That’s the guy they need to find as well.


61 posted on 08/21/2013 9:08:33 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Perdogg
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62 posted on 08/21/2013 9:10:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: centurion316

“...I was closely involved in the Clyde Conrad spy caper in the 8th Infantry Division in Bad Kreuznach in the 80’s...”

I remember those days. That was back when we were FIGHTING communists...

...instead of electing them, and apparently taking orders from them.


63 posted on 08/21/2013 9:12:03 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Perdogg
He will eligible for parole in 11 years.

Do you know this as a fact? I was under the impression that a federal sentence is fully served.

64 posted on 08/21/2013 9:17:45 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Is he allowed to wear his wig and dress for all 35 years?

It's every bit conceivable, the way things are going, that he'll get the full "lopitophomy" surgery, tax-payer funded.

65 posted on 08/21/2013 9:23:46 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I have discovered a few things since my Post #59.

SGT Roderick Ramsay was apparently released from Federal Prison sometime around 2004 (he was sentenced to 36 years in 1992). According to the blog post, he was also later arrested for robbery in 2007 and served time for that offense. More here:

http://open.salon.com/blog/ellipses/2011/07/16/nobody_waits_tables_better_the_spy_who_served_me

So, I think that it’s safe to assume that Manning might serve about 10 years, more or less. For a peak at his future life, go here:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130821/DA8ADKU01.html


66 posted on 08/21/2013 9:33:22 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Perdogg

Kurt Lessenthien is spending 27 years in prison and never actually managed to pass a secret. I guess it pays to be gay.


67 posted on 08/21/2013 9:34:41 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: fwdude

The legal beagles on FOX were all saying he’d be eligible after serving one third of the sentence.


68 posted on 08/21/2013 9:36:25 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Carlos Danger for mayor....NYC deserves him)
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To: Perdogg; Revolting cat!; GeronL

The Democrats have found their 2042 presidential candidate!


69 posted on 08/21/2013 9:44:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Old Sarge
You’re assuming Odinga is going to ever leave...

I think hillary and her goon squad will make sure he leaves office....

It's whether it's on his feet or in a pine box.

And make it look like a tea partyer did it !!!

She's chomping at the bit for power...
70 posted on 08/21/2013 9:47:18 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Cheerio

>> Should be facing a firing squad <<

No, that’s not for traitors. He needs the noose.


71 posted on 08/21/2013 9:48:39 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: NFHale
Don’t think for a moment HE didn’t know that ahead of time.

I agree this little cross dressing faggot should've hung in the breeze for what he intentionally did.

You're right, he damned well knew what he was doing. For whatever sorry excuse he claims, I don't care what bug he had up his A**, it's the results of his actions that earned him an "old fashion necktie party dance"
72 posted on 08/21/2013 9:54:23 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey

“...You’re right, he damned well knew what he was doing. ...”

Like another poster said up-thread - he had access to things he had no “need to know” and should NOT have had access to.

They need to find the mole that was providing him direction, access, and material.

And hang THAT sonofab*tch as well.


73 posted on 08/21/2013 10:00:10 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2harddrive

Just as Clinton pardoned his greatest supporters, Marc Rich.

And the wheels go round and round....


74 posted on 08/21/2013 10:00:26 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: 0.E.O
Am I the only one who found it somewhat offensive to see Manning paraded before the cameras each day in his dress uniform?

yeah it stinks but now that the courts found him guilty, he's been busted and it's prisoner fare for him.

Even in the Army, you are innocent until proven guilty.

Just as the Ft. Hood shooter still has the rank and privileges(albeit limited) to the rank he has.
75 posted on 08/21/2013 10:06:19 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Perdogg

I personally feel 35 years is too light a sentence.

Wish they still had hard labor as a punishment. That would make those 35 years a bit longer, so to speak.


76 posted on 08/21/2013 10:07:45 AM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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To: NFHale
They need to find the mole that was providing him direction, access, and material.

They should start at the local gay bar.... IMHO it's a homo circle of queer/computer hackers/ malcontents in the Army with a grudge against "Don't Ask/Don't Tell"policy and the country as a whole...
77 posted on 08/21/2013 10:15:38 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer
What a joke. I wonder how many people are going to die because of what he did. This country is a disgrace. He’ll be out in ten.

They said on the news today that with time off for good behavior he could be out in less than eight years.

78 posted on 08/21/2013 10:26:05 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: RedMonqey

I’m inclined to think it was a closeted higher-up, who’s now sh*tting his/her fatigues...


79 posted on 08/21/2013 10:41:03 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 0.E.O

THINKING THE SAME THING.


80 posted on 08/21/2013 10:47:33 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for our country...Pray for America and the brave souls who are defending us!)
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To: Perdogg

Super lenient sentence. I’d have had him shot the following morning.


81 posted on 08/21/2013 10:57:31 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: Perdogg

Nothing short of life is appropriate in his case.


82 posted on 08/21/2013 11:03:09 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Perdogg

Maybe if he’s lucky he’ll get to stay in Segregation for a loooong time.
Homo’s LOVE segregation, It’s like a permanent vacation to them.


83 posted on 08/21/2013 11:38:40 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Perdogg

I used to believe that Federal prison had no parole now i keep reading he’ll be out in 10.

guess i was wrong.


84 posted on 08/21/2013 11:41:24 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Perdogg

I bet this little girl though it was hilarious when he stole all of that info.

WHO’S LAUGHING NOW TWERP?


85 posted on 08/21/2013 11:44:04 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Perdogg

Manning’s celebrity just ended. The bubbas will be passing him around like a pack of Kools.


86 posted on 08/21/2013 11:51:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: Soul of the South
The military of Patton, McArthur, Eisenhower, Marshall, Bradley and Nimitz would have convicted Manning for treason and taken him out to the firing squad.
Ever hear of "George John Dasch and the Nazi Saboteurs"?
Eight Nazis were captured in the US (1942), convicted of sabotage (although they hadn't even had time to do anything), and just weeks later six were executed.
Manning deserved no less and should have received death by hanging - in public.
87 posted on 08/21/2013 11:56:28 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Perdogg

Reading about this little poofer getting 35 yrs has me thinking....I’m a little hungry, I wonder what’s for dinner tonight?


88 posted on 08/21/2013 12:08:14 PM PDT by mowowie
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89 posted on 08/21/2013 12:20:41 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: COBOL2Java

Still too good.


90 posted on 08/21/2013 12:29:02 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Still stunning that he is the only one being accountable for this. He was an E-3 for God’s sake. Somebody else is involved or messed up big time by giving him this access without oversight. Something stinks with this story and people are glad that he went to jail? I am but I wish they would have gotten some information out of him for a deal....at the beginning when this first began, they could have said, “we will give you life in prison, but you need to give us some information.” Nobody cared or noticed that this guy was an E-3?????? Seriously this is a mess. We should WANT to get to the bottom of this.


91 posted on 08/21/2013 1:48:40 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Vigilanteman
I thought it was a light. Why are his accommodations so poor? I am NOT saying that they shouldn't be, but when I see prison stories and shows, it doesn't see as bad and dire as his. Why are terrorists in Gitmo having better accommodations than this American citizen? Again, asking generally not specifically for this dosh bag.
92 posted on 08/21/2013 1:53:12 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"He’ll be out in ten"

Actually, it's 8.

93 posted on 08/21/2013 3:40:40 PM PDT by Tula Git (There IS a coup in America and it's on track and almost complete.)
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To: Old Sarge
You’re assuming Odinga is going to ever leave...

If anyone is up to it I will place a large bet that on Feb 1, 2017 Odingo is still sleeping in the White Hut.
94 posted on 08/21/2013 4:41:12 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Perdogg
He should have also gotten;
reduction in Grade to the lowest Enlisted Grade, Forfeiture of All Pay and Allowances, and a Dishonorable Discharge.
95 posted on 08/21/2013 5:47:42 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: oh8eleven

He should have gotten the Saddam Hussein treatment, complete with the extra-heavy sandbag option.


96 posted on 08/21/2013 5:53:14 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Perdogg

And if not him, who???


97 posted on 08/21/2013 6:20:46 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British. He shot them.)
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To: Perdogg

OK. pretend I’m ignorant.
What is the difference between him and Snowden?
I’m series. I see no difference, but I’m not always up on the finer nuances of legalities.

Just help me understand, please.

‘Face


98 posted on 08/21/2013 6:25:15 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British. He shot them.)
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To: Perdogg

I think Jeff Skilling got more.


99 posted on 08/21/2013 7:05:12 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Perdogg
Not only did he only get 25 years, apparently parole in 11. He got what he wanted- homosexuals in the military.
100 posted on 08/21/2013 7:06:35 PM PDT by Vision (Trayvon Martin illustrates the bankruptcy of the modern civil rights movement.)
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