Posted on 08/21/2013 8:40:51 AM PDT by Lakeshark
Over the course of just two days, the Washington Post pounded its readers with 12 "birther" stories aimed at Texas Senator Ted Cruz. Headlines included, "Can Ted Cruz Run for President?", "Canadian Born Ted Cruz Releases Birth Certificate Amid Queries if He's Eligible for Presidential Run," "Ted Cruz: I am Not a Canadian," and "No, Ted Cruz "Birthers" are Not the Same as Obama Birthers":
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Though there is no legal question as to Cruz's eligibility to run for president (Cruz was born an American citizen), the Post has spent the last 48 hours bedeviling the Hispanic senator with articles obviously meant to put him on defense and plant a seed of doubt in voters' minds.
The timing of the Post's assault is also curious. By accident or design, it dovetails perfectly with a widely criticized Daily Beast hit-piece on Cruz that also focuses on and questions Cruz's past and background.
Since being elected to the United States Senate in 2012, Cruz has emerged as one of the most vocal critics of President Obama and his signature healthcare plan, ObamaCare. The Washington Post has endorsed Obama for president, and frequently used its news and editorial pages to defend ObamaCare.
In the past, the Post has also launched crusades to destroy the careers of many Republicans, including US Senate candidate George Allen, presidential candidate Mitt Romney, presidential candidate Rick Perry, and current gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli -- among others. The Post's modus operandi is similar to what Cruz is currently facing: The Post floods the zone with stories critical of the Republican in an effort to undermine their candidacy through character assassination.
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Is this going to be the mother of all birther threads?
Many of them already are. Look at the threads around here on the subject.
One word: Alinsky.
Yup.
They’re just mocking Conservatives, that’s all. Reminding us that they control the narrative (sadly).
No legal question as to Cruz’s eligibility but questions about Obama’s the two faced media is mum.
All we want to know about BO is what his grades were and after 5 years, we still don’t know.
Yup.
They’re just mocking Conservatives, that’s all. Reminding us that they control the narrative (sadly).
I’ve seen it, it’s quite a sight to watch.
I wish Ted had been born on US soil..
I haven't heard a word about Cruz's faith. He was raised Southern Baptist, but has roots in Catholicism.
That always works to throw the religious base into a tizzy.
I’m a birther and I’ll vote for him based on the fact that he’s a better constitutionalist than 95% of the country.
Wouldn't have made a lick of good - the same people would still call him ineligible due to his father not being a citizen.
Let’s take account, shall we?
(A) Obama’s father was not a citizen of Kenya at the time he was born, ostensibly on American soil. Consetrvatives across American point to this as an issue of his ineligibility.
(B) Cruz’s father was a Cuban citizen at the time he was born on Canadian soil. Conservatives point to his mother’s citizenship as proof of his status as an “natual born citizen”
Nah....there’s no disconnect along ideological lines in this argument.
Cruz is not an NBC. Must be of two citizen parents on US soil. Learned that in 4th grade in 1957.
I doubt the religious base will have any problem with Cruz. I do think leftists and evangelical atheists will hate him with a passion.
If the ‘natural born citizen’ phrase has been retroactively redefined/twisted sufficiently for Obama (apparently including changes to laws that we weren’t aware of), then Cruz’ situation isn’t even an interesting question.
Ooops...errata on point (A)
Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya (My OP says “was NOT a citizen”).
Well phrased.......but I think some of the wind is gone from the pharisaical sails. They are struggling with original intent, and how it clashes with their hyper technicality.....
All we want to know about BO is what his grades were and after 5 years, we still don’t know.
When all your student paper Work has a different name and says you are Indonesian, you don’t want it to be public...
Look at it this way, he certainly meets the Barack Obama test. I met his dad and that man is an American. However, think another word. “STANDING.” Finally, someone has it. Now, let a Republican primary challenge his qualifications and then get a court to define “Natural Born American” once and for all. That might be the most interesting outcome..
It is quite easy when you handover a story of corruption to them. You can harldy play the role of hypocrite by defending Democrat crimes and then engage in the same crimes yourself.
Sen. Ted Cruz can and already should have killed this problem instantly and responsibly by publicly acknowledging his own ineligibility and condemning Obama and the Democrats for their own eligibility crimes. AS it is now, Sen. Cruz is utterly destroying his own credibility by failing to take responsibility for this issue.
And, of course, like good “parental units” we just give-in to our children that whine, “Everyone else does it!”?
One of them hates what America is was and everything we say we stand for.
One of them loves America and everything we say we stand for.
Believe it or not, some people don't understand that key difference.......particularly the Washington Compost and the rest of the totalitarian left.
Se. Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen, and he is not eligible for the Office of the President. Claims to the contrary are without merit and an act of corruption. You don’t battle Obama’s corruption by engaging in the same corruption.
Looks like Mr. Bezos doesn’t care for you Ted
“All we want to know about BO is what his grades were and after 5 years, we still don’t know.”
I’ll settle for a copy of Kerry’s 180.
As a Conservative, I try very hard to play by the same rules whether it’s a Democrat or a Republican whose credentials are under review.
I believe Obama was born in Kenya. His mother was a citizen but his father wasn’t. End of story.
I believe Cruz was born in Canada. His mother was a citizen and his father wasn’t. End of story.
If that were all the story, I’d believe both to be citizens, but not natural born citizens.
Now, in Obama’s situation, he attended school in a foreign nation. Word has it he had to renounce his U. S. Citizenship to attend that school. If so, he is the shining star of illegal immigrants.
We all let the Democrats get away with it - for what will amount to 8 extremely harmful years that will impact generations. We've been acting like puppets, not parents.
Does that justify letting Cruz run? I'm admittedly torn... but I am sick of getting railroaded by the other side and the media.
Go right ahead, but don't ask the rest of us to follow.
first line of post 29 should have been in quotes and italics. My error.
Bottom line, Shark:
If Cruz runs for POTUS in the Republican party, he will utterly destroy both that Party and the conservatives that continue to cling to it.
The Dhimmicrats have no shame or remose in appearing hypocritical, history begins when they say it begins; they will place any error of vetting Obamugabe on the Republicans, the media will echo it.
Vader: Search your feelings; you know it to be true.
“I wish Ted had been born on US soil..”
His birth in the jurisdiction of the United States would not have made him a natural born citizen of the United States, because his father was a citizen of Cuba until 2005. His mother’s U.S. citizenship may have been sufficient to qualify him to become a U.S. citizen using the statutory law of the immigration and naturalization act/s, but citizenship gained by such means is the antithesis of natural born citizenship requiring no such staturoty laws. Pure and simple, it is impossible for Sen. Ted Cruz to be a natural born citizen, because the facts of his birth disqualify him.
Mark Levin says otherwise, so...
Are you calling Mark Levin corrupt?
His mother was a U.S. citizen when he was born in Canada he is eligible he didn’t have duel citizenship.
:: We all let the Democrats get away with it - for what will amount to 8 extremely harmful years that will impact generations. We’ve been acting like puppets, not parents. ::
Which allows the Dhimmicrats to “jiu-jitsu” the issue back on us. Like all ^intelligent pre-adolescents^, they will turn it back on the conservatives and make us (aligned or not with the Pubbies) look like weak, quivering fools.
Look back at your teen years...Was there no personal satisfaction better than making Mom and Dad look stupid?
Eh, forget it. It gives these guys chum to chew.
If it’s not this it’ll be something else. And they WILL lie. Depend on it .
When, in the process, they find nothing more on Cruz their paradigm will shift
I don’t bet on them. I doubt they’ll come out ahead. But they’ll be mad and they’ll fight as dirty as they can-no limits
One advantage in their trying to take Cruz out early is that if he weathers this he will have inoculated himself by the time the election rolls around.
What do you think really bothers them about him? I think it’s that he’s a religious conservative.
Mail.
When you violate the rule of law as expressed most clearly in the Constitution, it is you who are collaborating in the establishment and the promotion of totalitarian government by Obama or a rogue Republican Party. When you promote a candidate who violated the Constitution in ways comparable to the Democrats, you are taking sides with the same kind of evil. in the period of 1934 to 1941, the Soviet Union and NAZI Germany were allies as they invaded other nations and committed atrocities. Taking sides with either of them was an evil and not a strategy.
:: To say he will destroy conservatives if he runs is silly beyond my capacity to laugh ::
I understand your statement but, truthfully, what is the status of “conservative” public credibility today? Keep in mind that said “cred” is entirely at the mercy of the media. The welfare class (47% of the votes received) get that info from the media/crisis-pimps.
These are exactly the same type of preemptive strikes that the libs (and the GOP-E) made against Sarah Palin in 2009.
By law, in order to confer cictizenship, a parent had to have 14 years of US residency, 5 after the age of 14. Dunham was 18 and did not meet this requirement. For Cruz, we would just need residency documents for his mom...
Whatever.
An astute observation, I hope you're right, I think they may fail even with the FR circular firing squad.
What do you think really bothers them about him? I think it’s that he’s a religious conservative.
He's all that along with a great capacity to present the conservative message, to fight for it, and persuade others to see his beliefs as a strong, positive influence.
I am a Birther.
IMO Ted Cruz is not a NBC .
BUT if Obama can be President, so could Putin.
Obama is not a NBC either, so he has negated that requirement.
The Washington Post cannot have it both ways.
If they endorse Obama they must ignore questions of Cruz’s eligibility.
At this point in time Ted Cruz is my candidate.
That is a lie and a fraud. Sen. Ted Cruz was born in Canada with immdiate Canadian citizenship, his father’s Cuban citizenship by jus sanguinnis under the Cuban constitution, and the right to request statutory U.S. citizenship from the U.S. State Department. These are all facts of birth which negate any possibility of being a natural born citizen. A natural born citizen is born with U.S. citizenship and no foreign citizenship at birth or at any point in time after birth.
Leftists always have it both ways, they are thoroughly hypocrites
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