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2011 Ruling Found an N.S.A. Program Unconstitutional
New York Times ^ | August 21, 2013 | By CHARLIE SAVAGE and SCOTT SHANE

Posted on 08/21/2013 4:09:40 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 08/21/2013 4:11:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A recently revealed National Security Agency program that searches the contents of Americans’ international Internet communications for people who mention foreigners under surveillance violated the Constitution for several years, according to an October 2011 top secret court ruling made public on Wednesday.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: intelligence; nsa; obama; security

1 posted on 08/21/2013 4:09:40 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

2 posted on 08/21/2013 4:10:36 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Apparently the NSA gets upset if you use their logo.

nsa logo photo: NSA nsa_logo.gif

3 posted on 08/21/2013 4:13:28 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That was then. The Constitution has evolved since then, don’t’cha know?


4 posted on 08/21/2013 4:14:46 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: MeganC
That's just silly; why would they get upset? It doesn't look too bad, but it is rather plain.


5 posted on 08/21/2013 4:16:17 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: LucyT
I really don't know why they get upset. Maybe it has something to do with repetition.

nsa logo photo: NSA nsa_logo.gif

6 posted on 08/21/2013 4:21:03 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn; ...
2011 Ruling Found an N.S.A. Program Unconstitutional

But did a little thing like breaking the law stop them?


7 posted on 08/21/2013 4:21:10 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: MeganC
Apparently the NSA gets upset if you use their logo.

Why? I think it's real pretty.

8 posted on 08/21/2013 4:22:01 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: LucyT

IMPEACH NOW


9 posted on 08/21/2013 4:23:33 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Slyfox
Why? I think it's real pretty.

I'd rather say it's understated.


10 posted on 08/21/2013 4:27:33 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: LucyT

This administration doesn’t follow any rules. Laws are made for those they want to control


11 posted on 08/21/2013 4:32:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: LucyT
I especially like the way the eagle is clutching the key to all our secrets.


12 posted on 08/21/2013 4:32:55 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: LucyT

There is a video on the Ben Swann’s page.

Exclusive: NSA Using Copyright Claims To Crush Free Speech?

http://benswann.com/exclusive-nsa-using-copyright-claims-to-crush-free-speech/


13 posted on 08/21/2013 4:37:29 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Now you tell us.


14 posted on 08/21/2013 4:39:23 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: MeganC

I don’t think that is the official NSA logo.

Isn’t it the National Snooping Agency?


15 posted on 08/21/2013 4:40:49 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen

Photoshop it, anyone? I don’t have the expertise.

That might really make them mad, though.


16 posted on 08/21/2013 4:44:18 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: LucyT

Sorry for being late... in that video Ben Swann shows another logo that the NSA “borrowed” from someone else.


17 posted on 08/21/2013 4:45:27 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Here we go again. Somebody needs to post that chrome faucet with a big drop of water barely hanging on. Drip by drip it comes out.

Regarding this latest egregious behavior, I have two questions:

1. Who were the perps?

2. When are they eligible for parole?


18 posted on 08/21/2013 4:49:03 PM PDT by upchuck (My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance. We'll see about that!)
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To: Whenifhow
's Okay. Are you saying this isn't the bona fide logo? NSA wouldn't plagiarize, would they?


19 posted on 08/21/2013 4:50:32 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: LucyT

I saw everyone posting the symbol/ logo and thought you would like the video.

That is their logo. In the video Ben Swann tells about a small graphics firm that was going to make t-shirts & used the logo and they told him it was copyright.

Ben goes into the full explanation on that.

The other logo that is shown in Ben Swann’s video is the logo for PRISM which was stolen from someone else and turned upside down. NSA / PRISM has never paid for that logo for PRISM and never given acknowledgment either.


20 posted on 08/21/2013 4:55:57 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping.


21 posted on 08/21/2013 5:00:18 PM PDT by GOPJ (- - NSA - The only part of government that actually listens...Joe Kovacs)
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To: citizen

The guy who made T-shirts joking that NSA is the only government agency that listens has had all his NSA related products taken down off Zazzle, per copyright concerns by the NSA.
The article was titled “NSA goes after man who mocks it”, or something similar. Interesting that an agency with more child porn (in the form of teenage sexting) and X-rated selfies is going to feel bad about a minor political joke.
But fascists can’t stand to be mocked, so down goes the logo joke.


22 posted on 08/21/2013 5:16:38 PM PDT by tbw2
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This thread has ‘N.S.A’ and ‘Unconstitutional’ in the title.

So....they may be listening.

I wonder if there is hashtag #FUNSA on twitter yet?


23 posted on 08/21/2013 5:28:21 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Slyfox

I thought these logos were copyrighted?


24 posted on 08/21/2013 5:29:54 PM PDT by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: citizen

Is the FUNSA... a reference to Mark Sanford’s escapades in Argentina or a reference to the former employer of Eric Snowden....


25 posted on 08/21/2013 5:31:36 PM PDT by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: ptsal

#FUNSA is for enjoyable vacaqtion in South America :)

Nah, it’s b/c every Constitution loving American is tired of NSA and government and military officials saying they are saving nothing but then the drip-drip-drip of more revelations shows that they all lie about it. Shows the NSA is scanning everything, just as they have been doing since Echelon in the 90s if not before.


26 posted on 08/21/2013 6:00:54 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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tbw2 ~:" The guy who made T-shirts joking that NSA is the only government agency that listens has had all his NSA related products taken down off Zazzle, per copyright concerns by the NSA."
Was that site :LibertyManiacs.com ??
27 posted on 08/21/2013 6:35:45 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

That sounds like the name from the news story.


28 posted on 08/22/2013 5:30:43 AM PDT by tbw2
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Yeah , that sounds like the government at work :
Concerned over possible copywrite protection
rather than UNCONSTITUTIONALITY of their illegal surveillance !!

29 posted on 08/22/2013 9:53:00 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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