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Teens in shackles as charges read [Oklahoma]
The Border Mail ^ | August 22, 2013 | Nick O'Malley

Posted on 08/22/2013 6:53:27 AM PDT by kevcol

The boys looked terribly young and more stunned than scared when they were led individually into a packed courtroom in rural Oklahoma to face charges over the murder of Christopher Lane, an Australian they had never met.

The prosecutor, Jason Hicks, repeated the terrible details already shared by police - that Mr Lane, who was visiting his girlfriend, Sarah Harper had jogged past the boys as they sat around outside a house on Friday afternoon; that they selected him as a target, followed him in a car and shot him about four minutes later.

For people trying to understand what drove the boys to kill Mr Lane, their brief court appearances offered a few hints but no answers beyond the information already released by police: that they were bored.

Chancey Allen Luna, 16, is accused of pulling the trigger of the .22-calibre handgun used to kill Mr Lane. He was charged with first-degree murder and refused a bond before being led away in his orange prison pyjamas, shackled hand and foot.

As he stood before the judge, his mother, sitting in the third row, was handed documents detailing her son's rights. Her hands shook as she gripped the papers and she sobbed as he was led away.

Two rows in front of her, Cindy Harper, Sarah's mother, sat quietly throughout the proceedings.

James Francis Edwards jnr, 15, is alleged to have been a passenger in the car and was also charged with first-degree murder. Mr Hicks said the youth had been cold and callous throughout the proceedings.

The prosecutor said that as James stood before officers at the charging counter he danced, and had since treated the matter as a ''joke''.

Mr Hicks noted that a short time after the murder James appeared in the very courthouse he was formally charged in to attend a court-ordered supervision meeting for earlier offences.

But the boy's court-appointed lawyer, Jim Berry, told Fairfax Media that his client took the matter seriously, and denied his attitude was callous. ''He is very upset,'' he said.

As he was led away, more sobbing could be heard throughout the small court.

Outside the court his father, James Edwards snr, said he stood by his boy, an athlete who dreamt of competing as a wrestler in the Olympic Games. He said James was a happy boy who, while being known to police, had not been in serious trouble before. He did not believe his son could have been responsible for the killing, adding he had heard rumours the boys were ''wannabe gangsters'', but only since the shooting.

Duncan's police chief had told media earlier the boys ''wanted to be Billy Bob badasses'' .

Mr Edwards said his son did not grow up around guns. ''He said to me, 'Dad, why don't we have guns around the house?' and I said, 'Because I don't need no guns'.''

James' older sister, Rachel Padilla, said she believed racism was a factor in the charges, with the two African-American boys receiving the tougher charges.

The eldest of the trio is Michael Dewayne Jones, 17. He has been charged with being an accessory after the fact of first-degree murder and a vehicle and firearm offence. He also faces what Mr Hicks called ''a long, long sentence'' if convicted, but Mr Hicks told the court he had co-operated with police and the district attorney. His bond was set at $US1 million ($1.1 million).

Because of the seriousness of the charges not guilty pleas were automatically entered on the boys' behalf and they were given no opportunity to address the court at any length, with the judge silencing one when he made to offer details of the crime.

While many of their supporters sobbed openly, the trio remained mostly silent, making little attempt to even meet the eyes of those in court. They raised their shackled hands to take their oaths and offered quiet responses when the judge asked if they understood the process and their rights.

Over the road from the grassy verge where Mr Lane died lives Roy Burke, the head football coach of the local middle school. He remembers Sarah Harper from when he taught her PE when she was at Will Rogers Elementary School.

''You think things like this don't happen in your town, but obviously they happen anywhere,'' he said.

''Bad things happen to good people.''


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackkk; blackrage; chrislane; florida; gangs; georgezimmerman; racebaiters; thugs; trayvonmartin
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Chris Lane (victim), Edwards, Luna, Jones


Rachel Padilla [above]:said she believed racism was a factor in the charges


Outside the court his father, James Edwards snr, said he stood by his boy


The prosecutor said that as James stood before officers at the charging counter he danced, and had since treated the matter as a ''joke''.

1 posted on 08/22/2013 6:53:27 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

One is white??


2 posted on 08/22/2013 6:56:23 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude
One is white??

If so - then so is the White hut 0ccupant.
3 posted on 08/22/2013 6:57:50 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

Hey, Mrs. Padilla, why doncha eat a couple of chickens and a cow haunch. That always makes you feel better.


4 posted on 08/22/2013 6:57:54 AM PDT by DManA
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To: kevcol
The prosecutor said that as James stood before officers at the charging counter he danced, and had since treated the matter as a ''joke''.

Unbelievable --

This case needs to be wrapped around the BGI and Sybrina Fultons of this world.

5 posted on 08/22/2013 6:57:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kevcol

What a surprise- not a mention of gangs, Crips, initiation, content of their FB pages, rap, hip-hop.

And a repeat of the “bored” concept.


6 posted on 08/22/2013 6:58:06 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: MNDude

He’s white like Obama is white


7 posted on 08/22/2013 7:00:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: MNDude

One is white??

Their noses appear to be form the same race.

Hopefully there will be some good come form these crimes and rap music will change somewhat.


8 posted on 08/22/2013 7:02:31 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: kevcol
that's some teens.
9 posted on 08/22/2013 7:04:39 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: kevcol
Teens in shackles as charges read [Oklahoma]

Wouldn't it be a shame if some skinhead group in their prison got "bored"?

10 posted on 08/22/2013 7:05:11 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (For congress, it's not the principle of the thing, it's the money.)
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To: kevcol

the ‘boys’ look like thugs who kill people for fun


11 posted on 08/22/2013 7:07:10 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: kevcol

NOW it seems it was a GANG initiation. Gangs in OK City and Dallas are spreading. This was 100% RACIALLY motivated. If a 22 year old black had jogged by there would have been no stalk and kill.

These RACIST Gangs(The Crips) need to be hunted down and exterminated. Marine snipers should be set loose in OK City and Dallas to deal with this vermin.

BTW, the spectre of RACISM has been raised in this case. Not about the killing of an innocent white person by a black BUT because the 2 black kids were charged with First Degree Murder and the half black(?) was only charged as an accessory.

I would ask at every news conference when Sharpton and Jackson were expected to march against this alleged racism in the different charges.


12 posted on 08/22/2013 7:09:08 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: kevcol
When are Americans going to wake up and start to fight against this vermin that terrorizes our streets?

Committees of Vigilance should do what the police cannot/will not do, which is eliminate the threat against our families, friends and communities

When will the time for action be upon us. I believe it is already here.

13 posted on 08/22/2013 7:10:26 AM PDT by North Coast Conservative (If this be treason, make the most of it. - Patrick Henry)
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To: kevcol
James' older sister, Rachel Padilla, said she believed racism was a factor...

Race IS a factor. Many blacks believe they have the 'right' to do any amount of harm to whites, that is is justified by the 'wrongs' blacks have suffered.

"It is important to make a further distinction here among black hatred, black racism, and Black Power. Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it...But the charge of black racism cannot be reconciled with the facts. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. Racism, according to Webster, is 'the assumption that psychocultural traits and capacities are determined by biological race and that races differ decisively from one another, which is usually coupled with a belief in the inherent superiority of a particular race and its rights to dominance over others.' Where are the examples among blacks in which they sought to assert their right to dominance over others because of a belief in black superiority?...Black Power is an affirmation of the humanity of blacks in spite of white racism. It says that only blacks really know the extent of white oppression, and thus only blacks are prepared to risk all to be free." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 14-16]

"Whether the American system is beyond redemption we will have to wait and see. But we can be certain that black patience has run out, and unless white America responds positively to the theory and activity of Black Power, then a bloody, protracted civil war is inevitable." [Black Theology and Black Power, Page 143]

"Black theology cannot accept a view of God which does not represent God as being for oppressed blacks and thus against white oppressors. Living in a world of white oppressors, blacks have no time for a neutral God. The brutalities are too great and the pain too severe, and this means we must know where God is and what God is doing in the revolution. There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks. We have had too much of white love, the love that tells blacks to turn the other cheek and go the second mile. What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God's love." [A Black Theology of Liberation, p. 70]

14 posted on 08/22/2013 7:11:41 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: kevcol
. . . more stunned than scared . . .

Yep. Probably because they are missing a conscience.

But isn't diversity grand? Don't you feel so warm and fuzzy because they committed this crime with a white kid? Doesn't that show that racial relations are improving?

15 posted on 08/22/2013 7:12:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: kevcol

Which one pulled the trigger?


16 posted on 08/22/2013 7:13:29 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: kevcol
For people trying to understand what drove the boys to kill Mr Lane...

What a load of sympathetic road apples for those scum. They murdered, not killed, a man! That says it all.

Time to resume public hanging a method of state execution.

17 posted on 08/22/2013 7:16:27 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: kevcol
James' older sister, Rachel Padilla, said she believed racism was a factor in the charges, with the two African-American boys receiving the tougher charges.

So James Edwards' sister is Rachel Padilla. Wonder if Padilla is her married name? Oh, no, wait . . .

18 posted on 08/22/2013 7:16:37 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: kevcol
Family members all have different surnames than the accused, and only half of them are blood relation anyway. Sorta.

Gotta have a program to determine who is 'related' to whom in this case, at least when talking about the accused's relationship with their 'family'.

But never mind this case, there's an even more twisted case in MS where a 14 year old boy murdered his father with the aid of his police officer lover. Everyone in that case looks like a space mutant.

Oy, what a country. I don't even think the Manson Family case would make national news if it happened today. You'd have to read about it in the UK Daily Mail.

19 posted on 08/22/2013 7:17:46 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: kevcol
Mr Edwards said his son did not grow up around guns. ''He said to me, 'Dad, why don't we have guns around the house?' and I said, 'Because I don't need no guns'.''

And there you have it: It ain't the fault of the kid, it's the fault of the guns.

And since most guns are manufactured by crackers, it is obviously the fault of crackers.

20 posted on 08/22/2013 7:18:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MNDude
One is white??

Can't be because Rachel Padilla [above] says that she believed racism was a factor in the charges.

21 posted on 08/22/2013 7:18:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kevcol
The perps and picture caption as posted in the NY Post on 8/20/2013:If George Zimmerman could be a "White Hispanic," maybe Mr. Jones could be a "White African-American?"
22 posted on 08/22/2013 7:19:49 AM PDT by upchuck (My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance. We'll see about that!)
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To: kevcol

23 posted on 08/22/2013 7:22:28 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Ditter

Fourth paragraph.


24 posted on 08/22/2013 7:23:38 AM PDT by upchuck (My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance. We'll see about that!)
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To: kevcol
The boys looked terribly young and more stunned than scared

Po widdle fellas! Mean ole sheriff probably wouldn't let them have their fully teddy bears for comfort.

==

How soon before the MSM dig up elementary or junior high pix of the po widdle lads?
25 posted on 08/22/2013 7:27:15 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: kevcol

How can you be known to the police, but not be in serious trouble?


26 posted on 08/22/2013 7:30:47 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: kevcol

Lord have mercy-it’s rayciss when whites (or “white Hispanics”) defend themselves against black attackers, and it’s rayciss when blacks are charged for murdering a man in cold blood. It seems nothing wouldn’t be rayciss except for whites to just line up against the wall (although some blacks prefer doing it the hard way, as with Christopher Newsome and Channon Christian, or the spate of elderly white women who have been raped before being beat or murdered). They seem to think they want an entire world without whites, so everyone can live in Haiti or Detroit.

They never seem to consider that nature abhors a vacuum, they’re not qualified to fill it, and Asians and Hispanics have no white guilt nor will they just roll over to be attacked with impunity by feral blacks once they’re in power.


27 posted on 08/22/2013 7:32:02 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: upchuck

thanks, not enough coffee.

:)


28 posted on 08/22/2013 7:33:22 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: North Coast Conservative

***When are Americans going to wake up and start to fight against this vermin that terrorizes our streets?***

Now, back in the olden days if something like this happened, the next morning (comment removed before the moderator sees it), but then it would be safe to walk the streets for years!


29 posted on 08/22/2013 7:33:48 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: DBrow

Yep-they conjured “racism” out of thin air when Zimmerman defended himself against a black thug pounding his head into cement, but conveniently can’t see the racism in murdering a random white man, not for gain, or for that ever-present “disprespeckin’ me”, or the thousand excuses blacks have for murdering innocent whites.


30 posted on 08/22/2013 7:35:23 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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James' older sister, Rachel Padilla, said she believed racism was a factor in the charges

Her brother tracked down and shot a man solely because of his race. Now he's on trial for that racially motivated murder. In that respect then yes, her brother's racism was a factor in the charges.

31 posted on 08/22/2013 7:36:44 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: North Coast Conservative

Well, we’ll have to do it on our own if we care, because Holder’s not going to finance whites (as he did the first demonstrators in the Zimmerman case when they decided to rake it up from the ashes). And if the white demonstrators who gathered in Knoxville to support the families of Christian and Newsome, and protest the heinous, savage, brutal torture and murder of those two kids, are any example, any white demonstrators will just be called “Nazis” and “KKK” for showing up to demonstrate in support of the victim and against the criminals.


32 posted on 08/22/2013 7:41:32 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: kevcol

If they thought they were bored before the murder, imagine their boredom for the next 60 or 70 years...


33 posted on 08/22/2013 7:42:04 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Vigilanteman

He was a “wigger”. Interesting how he chose to enact his “wiggerness”.


34 posted on 08/22/2013 7:43:35 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: kevcol

Did the reporters[media] use any of the terms describing George Zimmerman’s court appearance that they used describing these three falsely accused angles?


35 posted on 08/22/2013 7:44:33 AM PDT by sport
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To: DakotaGator

Yeah, these “we must try to understand where the poor poor murderers were coming from” angles weren’t played when Zimmerman defended himself against a black thug.


36 posted on 08/22/2013 7:45:09 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: North Coast Conservative

They won’t.


37 posted on 08/22/2013 7:46:01 AM PDT by sport
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To: kevcol

Where’s Soetoro to claim his sons? Eric no limit racist Holder must be applauding. Get Whitey.


38 posted on 08/22/2013 7:46:26 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: MNDude
One is white??

mulatto or quadroon by the looks of him.

39 posted on 08/22/2013 7:46:32 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Don’t count on them going to prison.


40 posted on 08/22/2013 7:47:05 AM PDT by sport
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To: kevcol

That article is a hand-wringer.

It is enough to make Nancy Grace cry on TV — again, these poor childrens are facing the Big House.


41 posted on 08/22/2013 7:47:45 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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Time to resume public hanging a method of state execution.

Sorry. The Supreme Court in its infinite wisdom and arrogance has determined that people under the age of 18 may not be executed, even for heinous crimes such as this. There will be no hanging or other death penalty for these boys.

Not even sure about Life Without Parole, but that's the very best we can hope for.

42 posted on 08/22/2013 7:50:43 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Yes, the Mansons would srill make news, they’re white. The slow, agonising torture and murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsome didn’t make national news, and it hardly gets more heinous and inhuman than that crime. The perps prepared and ate breakfast as Channon lay slowly dying.

Nor the slew of elderly women-80yo and older-who have been raped, beat, and some murdered by “youths”-some of them, literally-one of the perps was 15 when he raped and killed the elderly woman in OK, and beat her husband so badly he later died in hospital.

Nor the Nation of Islam serial murders of whites, known as the “Zebra Killings”-often the victims were tortured to death-but how many people have even heard of this crime? Because the killers were black?


43 posted on 08/22/2013 7:51:26 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Vigilanteman

Look for Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law to be blamed any minute. In fact, expect anything but these animals to get what they deserve. Hell expect the media to be blaming George Zimmerman by the end of the week.


44 posted on 08/22/2013 7:51:30 AM PDT by sport
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To: kevcol

http://www.smh.com.au/world/chris-lane-shooting-a-gang-initiation-says-father-who-called-police-20130822-2sdud.html


45 posted on 08/22/2013 7:52:06 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: kevcol

Two lardasses. Proof positive that the welfare system works.


46 posted on 08/22/2013 7:53:14 AM PDT by sport
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To: MNDude

Perhaps genetically, but culturally what we have is ghetto black thug culture at work.


47 posted on 08/22/2013 7:55:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: upchuck

He’s what’s known as a “wigger”. What better way to show that you’re down with yo’ peeps than to murder an innocent white man? It’s all the fashion these days-”flash mobs” (more accurately, looting and beating mobs), Knock Out King, Polar Bear Hunting, “Beat Whitey Night” at the Iowa State Fair.


48 posted on 08/22/2013 7:55:44 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Uncle Chip

Hell, racism is afactor in everything Uncle Chip. To some Blacks if they get constipated, its racism.


49 posted on 08/22/2013 7:56:04 AM PDT by sport
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To: MNDude

yes, the driver is white

these parents taught their kids to hate whites, where did they think that would get them


50 posted on 08/22/2013 7:56:42 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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