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John Boehner Is Scared Conservatives Are Gaining Momentum
RedState ^ | August 22nd, 2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/22/2013 10:44:54 AM PDT by xzins

John Boehner is scared conservatives are beginning to gain traction on the issue of defunding Obamacare. How do I know?

David Winston is rigging a poll to get some desired results.

Winston is a John Boehner adviser and his preferred pollster. In fact, internally, some Republicans grouse that Beohner uses Winston to direct his lead on issues instead of just . . . well, you know. . . leading.

Check out David Winston’s poll question.

In a national survey of 1,000 registered voters done July 31 and August 1, the question, from pollster David Winston, said,

“Some members of Congress have proposed shutting down the government as a way to defund the president’s health care law”

and asked respondents whether they favored or opposed that plan.

Ted Cruz has not proposed shutting down the government.

Mike Lee has not proposed shutting down the government.

Congressman Meadows has not proposed shutting down the government.

In fact, everyone who supports defunding Obamacare has been very clear that they’ll vote for a continuing resolution, just not for Obamacare funding. If the government shuts down over that, it would be Barack Obama insisting his health care plan nobody wants gets funded.

The GOP Leaders have placed themselves in a no-win situation. It is not of conservative doing. They have refused to fight on Obamacare despite rhetoric otherwise and then gone out and pre-emptively spun against themselves any government shutdown.

This is all John Boehner’s doing. And, like his debt ceiling deal, it will probably blow up in his face.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: boehner; congress; demagoguesonfr; johnboehner; obamacare; ohio; randsconcerntrolls
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1 posted on 08/22/2013 10:44:54 AM PDT by xzins
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To: obama

Obama does not want conservatives to end death panels


2 posted on 08/22/2013 10:45:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

3 posted on 08/22/2013 10:46:45 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: xzins

You conservatives fight fire with fire and hire a pollster to ask the better questions and use twice the base.


4 posted on 08/22/2013 10:47:28 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: xzins
SSDD


5 posted on 08/22/2013 10:48:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: xzins

He better be f’in scared!


6 posted on 08/22/2013 10:49:37 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: xzins

John, go hide so we can’t find you.


7 posted on 08/22/2013 10:50:55 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: xzins

He had better be quaking in his little prancing boots, his sorry rear end needs to be primaried...


8 posted on 08/22/2013 10:51:00 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Doogle

he is not the Cowardly Lion, just a run of the mill hack...


9 posted on 08/22/2013 10:51:01 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: xzins

We call him Bonehead for good reason


10 posted on 08/22/2013 10:52:44 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: bmwcyle

He has been hiding, does nothing is a worthless POS.


11 posted on 08/22/2013 10:53:05 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: xzins

Forget about obama care the problem now is amnesty. If Schumer Durban and the backstabbers Graham and McCain get thier way everything is lost so work on that instead


12 posted on 08/22/2013 10:56:42 AM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: Doogle

Actually, Boo Hoo has plenty to be scared of if he wanders off the Rino reservation!

13 posted on 08/22/2013 10:58:10 AM PDT by Zakeet (Democrats: Making everything free in this country except you)
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To: GraceG
his sorry rear end needs to be primaried...

I keep wondering if there are NO conservatives/Tea Party Ohioans, in his district, willing to challenge this quisling.

14 posted on 08/22/2013 10:59:21 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: amnestynone

Conservatives can walk and chew gum. Fight both.


15 posted on 08/22/2013 10:59:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Endowed by their Creator,' not by men.)
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To: xzins

When to end medical care should be as it always has been; up to the families of the loved one.


16 posted on 08/22/2013 11:04:02 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: xzins

will the bonehead’s tears seep through the tar poured on his head and if so will the feathers soak them up??


17 posted on 08/22/2013 11:09:16 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: xzins

My advice to Tammy Fay Boehner - Grow a set... FAST!


18 posted on 08/22/2013 11:09:32 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: xzins

Way past time our crying, spray tanned Speaker return to private life.


19 posted on 08/22/2013 11:10:23 AM PDT by mort56
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To: Jane Long

Go to www.cincinnatiteaparty.org to find out ;)


20 posted on 08/22/2013 11:11:52 AM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: mort56

He truly exemplifies the term
“Country Club Republican”


21 posted on 08/22/2013 11:12:23 AM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: Common Sense 101
My advice to Tammy Fay Boehner - Grow a set... FAST!

I'd be happy if he grew one. Half a man is better than none.

22 posted on 08/22/2013 11:13:03 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: amnestynone
the problem now is amnesty

If the invaders are not sent home and residence in the US is not controlled, there is no nation left to save. We know the ptb aren't on our side unless we scream loud enough. Where was their outrage about Obama's "Dream Act" maneuver when so many unemployed US citizens need jobs?

23 posted on 08/22/2013 11:15:31 AM PDT by grania
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To: Jane Long
I keep wondering if there are NO conservatives/Tea Party Ohioans, in his district, willing to challenge this quisling.

There is groundwork being laid on the ground in District 8.

http://www.ohioaccountabilityproject.org/

https://www.facebook.com/OhioAccountabilityProject

24 posted on 08/22/2013 11:16:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Endowed by their Creator,' not by men.)
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To: xzins

The TOTAL IQ of the senate would not equal the price of a “Happy Meal” They are all wannabe Marxists as far as I am concerned.


25 posted on 08/22/2013 11:20:43 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: xzins

Excellent commentary.

And it begs the question what is Boehnor’s motive? I suspect he’s been bought and paid for or otherwise compromised. Or perhaps more realistically his special interests in Ohio are controlling him by virtue of the contracts he steers to them. But I really don’t know why he doesn’t fight.


26 posted on 08/22/2013 11:38:20 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: xzins

This is the reason I always say - don’t believe the polls, they are merely for propaganda purposes, not only with their style of questions but the results.


27 posted on 08/22/2013 11:44:11 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Diogenesis

All evil men laughing at those they conned.


28 posted on 08/22/2013 11:45:30 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: GraceG

Why would he be shaking in his boots? No one will primary him and he will continue on as Speaker as long as Republicans hold the House.

Same as it ever was.


29 posted on 08/22/2013 11:50:26 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: xzins

Boehner wont lead, won’t follow and won’t get out of the way.


30 posted on 08/22/2013 11:51:06 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I don’t see them holding the house for much longer.

The GOP has given me not a single reason to vote for it.


31 posted on 08/22/2013 11:52:54 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Common Sense 101

It’s not that he has no balls. It’s that he’s playing for a different team. Democrats and Republicans have their differences in how to govern but they agree 100% on one thing - power needs to be in the hands of a select few.

Boeher plays for the Statists. Look at everything he does through that lens and everything he does makes sense. That’s his motivation.


32 posted on 08/22/2013 11:53:09 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

All by design. They only want conservatives to step down like they did with Newt.


33 posted on 08/22/2013 11:54:21 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Hostage

Actions are all that matters. Boeher’s actions show him to be a Statist. Party label is irrelevant. He’s perfectly fine with an ever expanding State as long as he’s in charge of it.

That’s why he doesn’t fight. He’s getting what he wants.


34 posted on 08/22/2013 11:55:20 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: chris37

Agreed and me neither.


35 posted on 08/22/2013 11:55:49 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: presently no screen name

They want Conservatives to follow their lead - compromise their principles in order to win the elections. If a conservative does not do that, it’ the CONSERVATIVES fault the election is lost.


36 posted on 08/22/2013 11:57:27 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Boehner wont lead, won’t follow and won’t get out of the way.

It's not up to him, but us. If he needs a good hard shove, so be it.

37 posted on 08/22/2013 12:02:20 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Diogenesis
Yep, I can't even tell which day it is any more.

Thanks for those pics. Those are the memories I took to the ballot box.

Gee, I can't imagine why people wanted four more of obama instead of four of the new and improved fauxbama.

38 posted on 08/22/2013 12:09:07 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Exactly. The fearful cowards have no fight in them. They are like liberals and want everything handed to them. Not a drop of patriotic spirit in them which our country was built on. Because we fought, we survived and attained the ‘greatest’ title.


39 posted on 08/22/2013 12:14:07 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: xzins
John Boehner is scared conservatives are gaining momentum

John Boehner is the reason conservatives are gaining momentum.

Fixed That For You.

40 posted on 08/22/2013 12:18:39 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: xzins

The problem (on this issue) seems to be a difference of opinion over who gets the blame for a shutdown. The TP believes it would be Obastard and the Rats, while the GOPe thinks it will be the Pubbies. I can’t say the GOPe is wrong about this...the Democrat controlled media has blamed the Republicans every time it’s happened.


41 posted on 08/22/2013 12:21:05 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It wasn't the Rodeo Clown's act, it was the crowd reaction they could't take.)
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To: GraceG
Just vote for the Democrat running against Boehner and be done with it. We can afford to give up one seat in the House.

-PJ

42 posted on 08/22/2013 12:26:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: xzins

Nothing new. The gop wing of the uniparty wants owebamacare just slightly less than the ‘rat wing. It’s all about power and access to all that personal data. Oh, and payoffs for their cronies.

Get ready to welcome owebamacare in a little over a month!


43 posted on 08/22/2013 12:29:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Conservatives can walk and chew gum. Fight both”

They are spending to much on Obamacare and not enough on amnesty. We can always go back to obamacare.


44 posted on 08/22/2013 12:29:28 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: Rumplemeyer

“he is not the Cowardly Lion, just a run of the mill hack...”

You’re right. The cowardly lion had character and eventually found his courage. No such luck with boehner.


45 posted on 08/22/2013 12:30:35 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Common Sense 101

“My advice to Tammy Fay Boehner - Grow a set... FAST!”

He will. The nicest set of man-boobs you ever did see!


46 posted on 08/22/2013 12:32:43 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Hostage

“I suspect he’s been bought and paid for or otherwise compromised.”

Suspect? That’s kinda like saying you suspect water is wet.


47 posted on 08/22/2013 12:34:18 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: chris37

“I don’t see them holding the house for much longer. The GOP has given me not a single reason to vote for it.”

Nor do I. I think the “rollover vote” will be immense this next year. “Rollover vote” in the sense that you wake up, realize it’s election day, and rollover and go back to sleep.

2014 is going to be verrrry interesting. The elections to watch right now, though, are in VA. That’ll give you a general sense for the way things are going.


48 posted on 08/22/2013 12:37:13 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: xzins

John Boehner is scared conservatives are beginning to gain traction on the issue of defunding Obamacare.


Obama just gave him the perfect weapon to use to defund Obamacare. All he needs to do is to call a press conference and announce that:
a) Senator Grassley inserted a provisionn into the Obamacare bill that Congress must be subject to its provisions. This was in keeping with Hamilton’s warning that Congress should not exempt themselves from any law.
b) Obama directed the OPM to provide a 75% subsidy for health care insurance for Congress and staff ... not available to ordinary folks.
c) Boehner will obey the law, and refuse the subsidy, and ask that all House Members obey the law and refuse the subsity, and ask their staffs to do the same. [Note: this would be “LEADING”].
d) Boehner encourages voters to ask their representatives whether they will obey the law, or accept the subsidies.
e) If the law is so onerous that Congress will not live with its provisions, it should be defunded.


49 posted on 08/22/2013 12:38:48 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: Political Junkie Too
Just vote for the Democrat running against Boehner and be done with it. We can afford to give up one seat in the House

I'll have to agree but can't there be a Tea Party candidate to 1st run in a primary?

50 posted on 08/22/2013 12:39:13 PM PDT by Digger
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