Skip to comments.Sen. Pat Toomey Says Government Shutdown Is Wrong Tool Against Obamacare
Posted on 08/22/2013 4:46:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
US senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) today was suggesting that an idea being floated in some Republican circles to try and shut down the government to stop Obamacare is just not the right way to go.
The ultra-conservative US senator insists the Affordable Care Act is a failure and should be defunded, if not repealed outright.
Toomey says hell try to take some limited action in the short run to hobble Obamacare, such as pushing for a delay in the individual mandate.
But if Congress tries to shut down government operations over the law, he feels, it wont do a lot of good.
Congressman Pat Meehan (R-Pa.), representing Delaware County, joins in that sentiment. Meehan and Toomey are to convince fellow GOPers promising a showdown on Capitol Hill that their tactics will backfire on them and their party.
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Pat is starting to sound like Snarlin’ Arlen.
Shutting government down is precisely the right tool to use on an oversized, overweening, arrogant, sucking us dry government.
Toomey is also a tool, just not the right tool to cut government down to size.
Toomey, you ignorant slut!
The Word on the street is that a “Hang your spine here” has been installed in both the GOP Senate and GOP house “Cloak rooms” they are instructed to hang thier spines and cajones there before proceeding to the floor
I am so over the Grand Old Party
You can all rot in hell
LEX ( i was your base you left me)
Yep. Pat also likes gays in foxholes. Total squish on DADT.
They should be using EVERY TOOL AT THEIR DISPOSAL to fight this thing. The more tools you use ...... the better the chances you will achieve your objective!
Nobody has proposed shutting down the government
Yes. He is becoming quite the RINO tool.
This is truly sad. Good Rick Santorum was routinely and viciously attacked on this premiere conservative forum for not endorsing the formerly perfect conservative, Pat Toomey. Now, well it is all different.
I wonder when conservatives here will stop the circular firing squad, or is that the game being played.
Nobody has proposed shutting down the government. They have proposed to not fund ObamaCare in the next CR.
BTW, whatever happened to budgets?
The only problem with a government shutdown is that it eventually starts back up again.
Pat is an elite slave.
Why end the 30-year-long strategic retreat? It’s working great.
If you buy into the argument of the left, you lose before you start. Republicans are proposing to fund the government, not shut it down.
Pat, you ain’t foolin’ no one.
We ain’t buying the phony GOP bullsh!t, anymore.
Your party is going get swept the **** out real soon.
toomey... toomey... yes I remember... he is a liberal republican from Pennsylvania.
Do you think the Tea party will ever realize how badly they have been played by the GOP?
an ultra-conservative would not just rule out a shutdown for something that is and will continue to destroy the country. and oppress and wind up killing citizens.
sorry he ain’t ultra conservative. these people doggegly fight to the death for their beliefs.
Pretty sad to see Toomey use the false language of the left.
Congress would pass CRs minus the funding for Obamacare. Obama would refuse to sign them and shut down the government.
When one is fired upon from those surrounding him and claiming to be friendly... then when return fire comes back upon those that have committed treason by firing upon their own troops... that response should be expected. No quarter and no mercy for any republican that tows the progressive line. My best advice to politicians of the republican persuasion... if you are innocent and do not want to be fired upon... do not stand next to a progressive republican that is firing upon his own troops.
Thazz 'ol school, we new skool now
Because Toomey drunk the RINO koolaid on gun control and amnesty.
"It's primaryin' time!"
And Rush can spare me his bull sh*t about being team players, and how third parties never work...blah...blah...blah.
Tell us Rush...and Mark; what has being loyal Republicans, and team players gotten us? NOTHING, EXCEPT GETTING SCREWED EVERY TIME! Sorry, but I have some self respect left. The only political power I have is to either not vote, vote third party, or do a write in. If the GOPe and RINOs are going to destroy the country and screw we conservatives over yet again...well, they can damn well do it without me!
FUPT...and all the other limp wristed, POS, RINOs!
I am beginning to think we have a bunch of idiots in congress. They are NOT talking about shutting down the government to stop Obamacare, they are saying DON'T FUND OBAMACARE, but fund the rest of the government.
“Pat is starting to sound like Snarlin Arlen.”
Starting....he jumped in bed with the rats as soon as he got the name plate on his traitorous office door. Hope we are smarter in PA than to have two hard left democrat senators!
Toomey is no better than Arlen. He is a waste of space and he has no reason to exist as a rep.
Gun grabbing Pat is done. Stick a fork in him.
Why am I supposed to be hurt if the government shuts down? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That is a dream come true. Close it down.
I'm sick of the mealy mouth excuses. You guys suck. You are all failures and you deserve to be spat on every time you go out in public. All of you.
You got YOUR premium health care and your super special waiver. Did I miss the press briefings where you TURNED IT DOWN? Did I miss where you declared, "Whats good for American workers is good enough for us?" Nope. You worms don't do anything but moan and whine and complain and posture.
You aren't going to do anything to stop Obamacare because you can't. You are impotent cowering fools, unable to accomplish even the smallest task. You can't even be bothered to READ the legislation to vote on.
If anyone in the real working world was as pathetic at their job they would have been unceremoniously fired and forgotten.
If America really does fall into a period of chaos and all you slime ball politicians crawl into your DC safe bunker, it would be ok with me if someone came along and dumped a hundred thousand pounds of concrete right in front of your exit door. You can stay in there until you remember whats more important than padding your bank accounts and accumulating political points.
Takes one to know one.
So Sen. Toomey is “ultra-conservative.” Does the press ever call Pres. Obama an “ultra-liberal?” Another recent report referred to Sen. Cruz as “far-right leaning.” Ever heard of a far-left leaning senator?
Yes, Rick has been unfairly savaged for his reluctant support of Specter. As it turns out, Rick was prudent. Better to go with the devil you know.
He is simply letting the libs set the agenda through speech......again. It is what Republicans do.
Toomey is a disappointment...I certainly won’t vote for him again.
the entire Congress should be replace..many have been there too long..they all DO NOTHING, other than collect a pay check.
Sen Pat Toomey is a tool...he must’ve had some dirt that 0’s NSA goons dug up.
remember, the GOPe and the RATS are both scared of the Tea Party and an enemy of my enemy is my friend. therefor, the GOPe and the RATS are BOTH saying the shutdown would be a bad thing.
Think about it.
The problem is......there is absolutely no consensus on a perfect conservative. People, individually,were attacked by other conservatives for supporting those the attackers did not like. This is how the left has defeated us. They did not hold out for their perfect liberal, instead, they moved a little further left with each election. We, on the other hand, fight among ourselves insisting for immediate perfection.
None of us are not looking for perfection. He or she does not exist. What we will not tolerate is republicans that come home and run on sound republican principles and the tenants of Conservatism and then govern by turning their back on those things and by breaking their promises to those that voted them into office. We will not tolerate those that would ignore the Constitution just to reach a compromise for the sake of passing any legislation. Their job is to govern a representative republic and to represent the people that sent them to DC in the first place... not to serve a party or even themselves... and to be quite honest... in my lifetime... I can count the number of truly honest people that have run or could run for president as a republican on one hand... and even then I would have some extra digits that would get lonely.
Did any of you read what he said? A liberal media outlet suggests many “ifs” and has Toomey respond.
Now, some of you are going to vote for a second dem senator for PA.
Daily, when I read these forums, I really don’t know what to think. Good conservatives are attacked many of you claim that you will never vote for a republican.......,Santorum lost his seat to the glee of so many of you.....there is zero consensus even among the regular and frequent posters here when it comes to the ultimate conservative today. So, instead, we have the left continuing to gain strength due to the conservative split.
But you sre tolerating Obama because it just would have been so wrong to have President Romney, huh?
Put together a budget and let the demonkrats vote it down. I think it is time to let them take the heat. Cut the taxes down to a luxury tax or a flat tax. Let the clown in chief run his mouth while he is wasting millions on his vacations and stupid ass bus tour.
May I honestly ask you why you would say that?
I did vote for that north east baby killing statist named romney... I actually donated to his campaign because Jim himself asked FReepers to do so. I will swear that if the republicans nominate christie, jeb bush, huntsman or any other progressive gop/e candidate... I will help to start a third party and I will work equally hard to destroy both the republican and democrat parties. I have never in my life voted for anyone other than a republican... but I gave the gop one last chance with romney and they proved for the last time that a liberal republican cannot win the Presidency. That is not looking for perfection... that is looking for a Republican candidate and not some progressive leftist republican in name only.
toomey reached across the isle and partnered with Senator manchin (dim) and co-sponsored a disgusting anti-second Amendment bill and he also voted to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. No true Conservative would do that... only a man that sways with the political winds. Where does one draw the line?
but geez, Rick Santorum was skewered by the good conservatives on this very forum, the premiere conservative forum on the internet, for NOT endorsing Pat Toomey.
Isn’t that something.
Our rep had a townhall tonight which we attended. He said the GOP had a big conference call this afternoon and Boehner and the leadership want to draw the line at the debt ceiling vote so I assume they are sending out the reps to sell it to us. Most of the folks at the townhall tonight were not buying it and very vocally.
Then, get out there and support your candidate. In the last election, EVERY SINGLE CONSERVATIVE was attacked at will here, on the premiere conservative forum on the internet. He or she was claimed to be not good enough and if I had a penny for every time someone here typed........”teach the party a lesson”, well, I could really take a nice long vacation.
There’s way too much running down good people on our side and frankly, and this is a great example.........the liberal media reports something and so many here, on the premiere conservative forum on the internet run with it and use it against a conservative.
As I said, the liberals have defeated us. They all get behind the eventual candidate, even though they have differences. They were willing to take baby steps toward the left. We, on the other hand will have no part of that. We must all agree (with whatever issue is at the forefront on that given day) or ELSE, well, we’ll teach that party a lesson, huh? (adds a penny to the growing vacation fund)