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Republicans vs. tea party sets 2016 stage
CBS News ^ | Aug 23, 2013 | By ANTHONY SALVANTO, ROBERT HENDIN

Posted on 08/23/2013 2:02:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

With another presidential cycle starting in just two years, battle lines are being drawn - not between the two parties, but within the Republican Party itself.

Interestingly the differences being aired this summer seem less about ideology than approach: Whether compromise with Democrats is ever okay; even more broadly whether government can or even should try to solve problems through policy or lawmaking. So while most Americans reflexively say they want "something done" there's plenty of difference in defining what that means, and these debates have huge potential to shape the GOP's brand in 2014 and certainly in 2016.

It's playing out now - as a raft of reliably conservative Republican senators have drawn 2014 primary challenges or the ire of tea party and other groups angry about the budget deals including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in Kentucky, Lamar Alexander in Tennessee, Mike Enzi in Wyoming and Lindsey Graham in South Carolina.

And it is affecting top leaders who are mentioned as Republican presidential candidates in 2016. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie framed the party's choice of direction as about "winning" (read: coalition building, when needed) or not, if it instead chases ideological purity. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has warned Republicans not to be seen as "anti-"everything. (On the Senate side Alexander, for his part, responded to his challengers much in the same vein as Christie, drawing lines between speech-making and his desire for action.)

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1 posted on 08/23/2013 2:02:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; randita; AuH2ORepublican; Viennacon; Clintonfatigued
Mike Enzi in Wyoming

Faces Liz Cheney who is to his left.

2 posted on 08/23/2013 2:07:50 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Whether compromise with Democrats is ever okay ...”

Compromise between growing the government a whole lot, and growing it not quite a whole lot. Why don’t the Democrats ever have to compromise on just how many departments completely get the axe? Because they control the debate.


3 posted on 08/23/2013 2:08:32 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Jim Robinson

The GOPe has been compromised for the last 30 years, it is time to stop and “get something done”.


4 posted on 08/23/2013 2:09:28 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson

GOP insiders always try to define the conservative challengers as the talkers while they take action.

NOT TRUE....

GOPe politicians make the conservative speeches and fail to follow up with anything other than symbolic “action”.


5 posted on 08/23/2013 2:15:01 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Jim Robinson

Donkeys need to compromise with the GOP, not the other way around.


6 posted on 08/23/2013 2:15:27 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: GeronL
Most of the GOP since Reagan won has been putting on the conservative mask to get votes. Now they are weary of wearing the mask and the Obama double election gave them the excuse to dump conservatism as a thing of the past.
7 posted on 08/23/2013 2:27:16 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Jim Robinson

With RINOs like Chris Christie and Jeb Bush in the mix, the GOP appears to be heading for another loss at the ballot box in 2016.

And, with the Tea Party unable to decide if they want to be a real political party and take on the RINO weenies in the GOP, conservatives might as well start planning on reorganizing their sock drawer on election day, 2016.

After that, we should take up heavy drinking!!


8 posted on 08/23/2013 2:32:52 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

GOP insiders insist on thinking that everyone will fall into line when the election rolls around.

Not this time.

It is my belief that a huge number of conservatives cannot wait to make their voices heard by staying home if there is another RINO on the ROSTER. If this marks the end of the GOP, so be it. They had their chance to fight and win and chose to go limp instead.


9 posted on 08/23/2013 2:38:02 PM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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To: Jim Robinson

If both advocate continuing the US role as world policeman [Syria] and not restoring MADE IN USA, I’ll sit it out.


10 posted on 08/23/2013 2:56:29 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: DustyMoment

Point of order! Since when do we have to wait for an election to drink heavily?


11 posted on 08/23/2013 3:05:33 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Nextrush

Time for third party?


12 posted on 08/23/2013 3:08:10 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: PATRIOT1876

I’d be happy if we had a SECOND party.


13 posted on 08/23/2013 3:15:32 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat

* I’d be happy if we had a SECOND party. *

Yep.

Now we only have Democrats and Gutless GOP lite....aka Democrat Party Mark II


14 posted on 08/23/2013 3:17:44 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Jim Robinson

My suggested campaign slogans:

-Christie 2016-
Because everywhere should be like Jersey

-Bush 2016-
Third Time’s a Charm


15 posted on 08/23/2013 3:28:24 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("I'm not much different from A.Cuomo.I probably agree with him on 98% of the issues." - Gov Christie)
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Somebody has to fix it.

Support Free Republic.

16 posted on 08/23/2013 3:34:54 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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The reason compromise with demonrats is unacceptable is because it is not compromise. The demonrats have an end goal, but it is so horrific that there is no way it can be articulated all at once. So, in order to be palletable, it must be implemented a little bit at a time. Get that first tiny stone planted (through “compromise”) and it is now an immobile block in an ever expanding foundation. The next “compromise” adds another block, while compromise never seems able to remove previously laid blocks, sooner or later the foundation grows to the walls of a concentration camp.


17 posted on 08/23/2013 4:23:34 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Jim Robinson; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; ...
It's playing out now - as a raft of reliably conservative Republican senators have drawn 2014 primary challenges or the ire of tea party and other groups angry about the budget deals including ... Lindsey Graham in South Carolina.

Oh, yeah, the immigration debacle is conservative.

Somehow I don't think the Executive Committee of the South Carolina Republican Party would censure (33KB pdf) a SC Senator if he was truly "reliably conservative."

Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


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Just FReepmail me


18 posted on 08/23/2013 4:47:35 PM PDT by upchuck (My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance. We'll see about that!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Primaries are a great tool that need to be used more often.

Graham needs to be taken out.

19 posted on 08/23/2013 4:49:09 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Tea party candidates stomped em in the 2010 elections. Yet the main line Republican party still wants to put forth RINO’s


20 posted on 08/23/2013 4:49:23 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: upchuck

“It’s playing out now - as a raft of reliably conservative Republican senators have drawn 2014 primary challenges”

I think the authors meant “reliably squishy Republican senators.”

You’re right, upchuck, Grahamnesty’s censure should be notice to him that it’s going to be a different ballgame next year.


21 posted on 08/23/2013 5:03:53 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Since when do we have to wait for an election to drink heavily?

LOL!!! Good point! However, I think we should have a good reason to drink heavily but, in reality, any occasion will do (e.g. it's Friday, the laundry is done, the laundry isn't done, it's Tuesday, you got a new car, your old car died on the side of the road, your mother-in-law went back home, it's Thursday, you graduated from college, your last kid moved out, etc., etc., etc.!!)

Nonetheless after the 2016 election with the likely field the RNC is putting up, we'll have an even better reason!!

22 posted on 08/23/2013 8:35:03 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: DustyMoment

i’ll eat to that, having very little wine right now


23 posted on 08/23/2013 8:36:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: TitansAFC

-Christie 2016-
‘If you’re gay you have to stay that way’

-Cruz 2016-
‘It’s Canada’s Turn’

-Bush 2016-
‘So what if Einstein said it’s insane?’


24 posted on 08/23/2013 8:50:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Endowed by their Creator,' not by men.)
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To: PATRIOT1876

If a business as usual Republican wins their primary in 2014, then a third party candidate should be waiting to run in the general election.

I personally believe in a double barreled conservative approach with one primary candidate and one third party candidate waiting in the wings in case the RINO wins the primary.


25 posted on 08/24/2013 4:31:59 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCirED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: DustyMoment

“Nonetheless after the 2016 election with the likely field the RNC is putting up, we’ll have an even better reason!!”

Given what the gop is (not) doing, I’m not sure our livers will make it to 2016.


26 posted on 08/24/2013 4:40:48 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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