Skip to comments.Republicans vs. tea party sets 2016 stage
Posted on 08/23/2013 2:02:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
With another presidential cycle starting in just two years, battle lines are being drawn - not between the two parties, but within the Republican Party itself.
Interestingly the differences being aired this summer seem less about ideology than approach: Whether compromise with Democrats is ever okay; even more broadly whether government can or even should try to solve problems through policy or lawmaking. So while most Americans reflexively say they want "something done" there's plenty of difference in defining what that means, and these debates have huge potential to shape the GOP's brand in 2014 and certainly in 2016.
It's playing out now - as a raft of reliably conservative Republican senators have drawn 2014 primary challenges or the ire of tea party and other groups angry about the budget deals including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in Kentucky, Lamar Alexander in Tennessee, Mike Enzi in Wyoming and Lindsey Graham in South Carolina.
And it is affecting top leaders who are mentioned as Republican presidential candidates in 2016. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie framed the party's choice of direction as about "winning" (read: coalition building, when needed) or not, if it instead chases ideological purity. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has warned Republicans not to be seen as "anti-"everything. (On the Senate side Alexander, for his part, responded to his challengers much in the same vein as Christie, drawing lines between speech-making and his desire for action.)
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Faces Liz Cheney who is to his left.
“Whether compromise with Democrats is ever okay ...”
Compromise between growing the government a whole lot, and growing it not quite a whole lot. Why don’t the Democrats ever have to compromise on just how many departments completely get the axe? Because they control the debate.
The GOPe has been compromised for the last 30 years, it is time to stop and “get something done”.
GOP insiders always try to define the conservative challengers as the talkers while they take action.
GOPe politicians make the conservative speeches and fail to follow up with anything other than symbolic “action”.
Donkeys need to compromise with the GOP, not the other way around.
With RINOs like Chris Christie and Jeb Bush in the mix, the GOP appears to be heading for another loss at the ballot box in 2016.
And, with the Tea Party unable to decide if they want to be a real political party and take on the RINO weenies in the GOP, conservatives might as well start planning on reorganizing their sock drawer on election day, 2016.
After that, we should take up heavy drinking!!
GOP insiders insist on thinking that everyone will fall into line when the election rolls around.
Not this time.
It is my belief that a huge number of conservatives cannot wait to make their voices heard by staying home if there is another RINO on the ROSTER. If this marks the end of the GOP, so be it. They had their chance to fight and win and chose to go limp instead.
If both advocate continuing the US role as world policeman [Syria] and not restoring MADE IN USA, I’ll sit it out.
Point of order! Since when do we have to wait for an election to drink heavily?
Time for third party?
I’d be happy if we had a SECOND party.
* Id be happy if we had a SECOND party. *
Now we only have Democrats and Gutless GOP lite....aka Democrat Party Mark II
My suggested campaign slogans:
Because everywhere should be like Jersey
Third Time’s a Charm
The reason compromise with demonrats is unacceptable is because it is not compromise. The demonrats have an end goal, but it is so horrific that there is no way it can be articulated all at once. So, in order to be palletable, it must be implemented a little bit at a time. Get that first tiny stone planted (through “compromise”) and it is now an immobile block in an ever expanding foundation. The next “compromise” adds another block, while compromise never seems able to remove previously laid blocks, sooner or later the foundation grows to the walls of a concentration camp.
Oh, yeah, the immigration debacle is conservative.
Somehow I don't think the Executive Committee of the South Carolina Republican Party would censure (33KB pdf) a SC Senator if he was truly "reliably conservative."
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Graham needs to be taken out.
The Tea party candidates stomped em in the 2010 elections. Yet the main line Republican party still wants to put forth RINO’s
“It’s playing out now - as a raft of reliably conservative Republican senators have drawn 2014 primary challenges”
I think the authors meant “reliably squishy Republican senators.”
You’re right, upchuck, Grahamnesty’s censure should be notice to him that it’s going to be a different ballgame next year.
LOL!!! Good point! However, I think we should have a good reason to drink heavily but, in reality, any occasion will do (e.g. it's Friday, the laundry is done, the laundry isn't done, it's Tuesday, you got a new car, your old car died on the side of the road, your mother-in-law went back home, it's Thursday, you graduated from college, your last kid moved out, etc., etc., etc.!!)
Nonetheless after the 2016 election with the likely field the RNC is putting up, we'll have an even better reason!!
i’ll eat to that, having very little wine right now
‘If you’re gay you have to stay that way’
‘It’s Canada’s Turn’
‘So what if Einstein said it’s insane?’
If a business as usual Republican wins their primary in 2014, then a third party candidate should be waiting to run in the general election.
I personally believe in a double barreled conservative approach with one primary candidate and one third party candidate waiting in the wings in case the RINO wins the primary.
“Nonetheless after the 2016 election with the likely field the RNC is putting up, we’ll have an even better reason!!”
Given what the gop is (not) doing, I’m not sure our livers will make it to 2016.