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Stop Foolish Ethanol Mandates
Townhall.com ^ | August 24, 2013 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 08/24/2013 4:50:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

The problems continue at President Obama's Environmental Protection Agency. Under fire for their leadership using private email addresses to illegally conduct official business and enacting new regulations through coordinated lawsuit settlements with outside environmental groups, the EPA shows no sign of slowing down in Obama's second term.

Last month, in an attempt to deflect attention from scandals at the IRS, the NSA and the embassy in Benghazi, the Administration has turned its attention to the issue of climate change.

At the center of their new environmental policies is the EPA's Renewable Renewable Fuel Standards, which mandates the use of ethanol and biofuels in the production of gasoline. This a prime example of misguided government regulation, as it punishes companies to use a type of hybrid fuel - known as cellulosic biofuel - which does not yet exist on the commercial market. In addition, drives up prices at the gas station for consumers (10 cents/gallon in 2011), while simultaneously driving up cost of food.

Record-high corn prices have also led to increased pressure on other grains such as wheat and soy - both of which have jumped in prices and are found in animal feed and numerous food products. Experts at the agriculture investment house Rabobank estimate there will be a historic 14% jump in overall food prices in the next year. As our economy recovers, this is the last thing struggling families should have to endure.

In 2012, during the worst drought for farmers in 50 years, the RFS diverted more than 50% our nation's corn supply into ethanol production. As corn is part of many foods you and I enjoy every day, even many left-wing global hunger advocates are opposed to the use of corn in fuel. Destroying food to be used in inefficient forms of fuel is bad policy with serious repercussions.

In June 2012, three senators - John Barrasso (R - Wyoming), Mark Pryor (D - Arkansas), and Pat Toomey (R - Pennsylvania) launched a bipartisan effort to get rid of renewable fuel standards entirely. According to Sen. Barrasso, "The Renewable Fuel Standard is fundamentally broken and beyond repair. Instead of delivering meaningful environmental benefits, it's driven up food and fuel costs for American families. This flawed program will also inevitably lead to widespread lawsuits against American manufacturers. When Congress enacts bad policy, the right response is to scrap it and start over."

It is clear that these fuel standards aren't working for consumers or refiners. Policy makers should focus on building more oil refineries and approving things such as the Keystone XL pipeline to transport tar sands oil from Canada into our country. The Renewable Fuel Standard should be repealed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: environment; epa; ethanol

1 posted on 08/24/2013 4:50:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
No arguments here. I lost a lawnmower this past year to E10 (unlabeled at the pump the day I filled the 5 gallon can.)

How "environmentally conscious" was the waste of a small engine and the attachments which enabled me to cut grass with it?

When I run 91 octane (real) gasoline, I get 18 MPG. The best I get with 87 octane 10% ethanol is 15 MPG.

I will use the real deal until I no longer can. Then I will pull that engine and put in something different, but I won't buy a new spy vehicle to record and report my activities.

2 posted on 08/24/2013 4:56:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Kaslin

Ethanol-free gasoline stations.
http://pure-gas.org/


3 posted on 08/24/2013 5:01:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls our climates.

3. The earth is a rock.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


4 posted on 08/24/2013 5:02:31 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Kaslin

I’m experimenting with pure (100%) gasoline. My last 2 fillups are with 87 octane regular 100% gasoline, and I’m tracking my mileage after each fillup. I calculate it manually (miles driven / gallons) rather than rely on the dashboard gauge which is not quite as accurate.

I’m going to watch it over a few fillups, then compare to my mileage that I’ve been getting using 91 octane “normal” gas (up to 10% alcohol). I suspect that the higher BTU rate of the pure gasoline will at least equal the mileage enhancement that comes with my engine’s adjustment to the higher octane of the 91 I’ve been using (my engine computer does take advantage of higher octane by adjusting the mixture/timing for the slightly slower burn speed of higher octane fuel).

BTW, I always treat my lawn mower gas with Sta-Bil to help keep it fresh and to help deal with some of the negative effects that alcohol can have on the fuel system of some small engines. Haven’t had any problems with my mower, tractor, or weed-eater.


5 posted on 08/24/2013 5:05:22 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: abclily
How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?

Levy an export fee on shade.

Repeal the Law of Gravity.

Flunkies with parasols.

Pass the Work At Night Act (WANA).

Require sunblock for everything.

And finally, the old standby, Smoke and Mirrors.

Anything is possible with enough hubris, just ask 'em!

6 posted on 08/24/2013 5:07:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Interesting map—none within 50 miles of me.


7 posted on 08/24/2013 5:11:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: meyer

I’ve been down that road with a Toyota Corolla. My experimentation occurred during the first big runup in gas prices, in 2008. Gasoline containing no ethanol does provide better gas milage. At the time it was somewhat difficult to locate without paying a premium for the “white gas” typically found at marinas, but there are stations advertising ethanol-free now, still with a price premium but not nearly so much. I took it a step further and experimented with acetone (the nearly pure kind not paint remover or nail cleaner, those would varnish the cylinders and ruin the engine). After a little trial and error, building up and then backing off, I settled on 1oz. per ten gallons at fill up. That in my experience worked, too, with an overall increase in the 15% range that persisted. Doesn’t work with ethanol in the gas, though. No benefit. Different engines behave differently, so there’s no hard and fast amount as far as using it as a fuel additive.


8 posted on 08/24/2013 5:16:34 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaslin
It seems unethical to use food for fuel when children are starving all over the world!

Liberals just want children to die.

9 posted on 08/24/2013 5:17:00 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: Kaslin

I’m all for removing the corn ethanol subsidy. Those plants with paid-down capital structures will be fine and only take it because it’s offered. But his argument about food prices in 2012 is specious. The cost of corn in human foods is so small as to be negligible and when you buy a nice juicy ear of corn on the cob, you do realize it’s not the same thing that cows eat, right? Consumers have suffered FAR more significant cost increases in the amount we’ve had to pay for PETRO FUELS (gasoline) which is not due to supply and demand or gov’t subsidies whatsoever.

Compare the price of gas at the pump when GWB left office and today and everyone will quit whining about corn subsidies instantly.


10 posted on 08/24/2013 5:17:32 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: abclily
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?

Prayer?

11 posted on 08/24/2013 5:17:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: bigbob
proving my own point with this graph:


12 posted on 08/24/2013 5:26:53 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Kaslin; Smokin' Joe

Unfortunately there’s no ethonol-free gasoline station close to us.


13 posted on 08/24/2013 5:32:19 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Smokin' Joe

Relative lost a lawnmower same way; there is an additive that you can put in the lawnmower w/the ethanol gas, but don’t know what it’s called.


14 posted on 08/24/2013 5:34:00 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: bigbob

Year on year % increases do not reflect cumulative effects. If the graph showed food prices normalized to a start year, the curve would be significantly different.


15 posted on 08/24/2013 5:34:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: TurkeyLurkey

same here


16 posted on 08/24/2013 5:39:34 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: abclily

ObaMessiah is the sun

and

Mooch is the Moon


17 posted on 08/24/2013 5:45:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Question: If my car uses 87 octane rating and the ethanol free ratings are 89 91 is the 89 rating save for my car? I have a 2004 Chevrolet Cavalier


18 posted on 08/24/2013 5:50:23 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Question: If my car uses 87 octane rating and the ethanol free ratings are 89 91 is the 89 rating save for my car? I have a 2004 Chevrolet Cavalier

Why, are you afraid it won't "ping" enough?

19 posted on 08/24/2013 5:54:11 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Kaslin

According to my mechanic yes. I run 91 premium in my 87 rated pickup to avoid ethanol and he says it shouldn’t hurt and in fact will improve gas mileage.


20 posted on 08/24/2013 5:54:39 AM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: ez

Thanks


21 posted on 08/24/2013 5:56:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: TexasCajun
It seems unethical to use food for fuel when children are starving all over the world!

For more than 50 years the American Farmer has shown the entire world how to grow so much food that there are mountains and mountains of surplus food.

We've had surplus food stuffs, especially corn, but also enormous amounts of meats every year for more than 50 years. We have so much surplus we can BURN our food to heat our homes, fuel our vehicles, export large amounts, and still have too much.

Our methods are open for all the world to see, they could copy us at anytime.

They refuse to do so.

There is a price for stubbornness and stupidity, in this case it's called starvation.

Let the bastards starve to death, while we burn our food.

Written by a retired farmer.

22 posted on 08/24/2013 6:06:15 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

” I lost a lawnmower this past year to E10 (unlabeled at the pump the day I filled the 5 gallon can.) “

What happened to it?


23 posted on 08/24/2013 6:07:01 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just wanted to say I hope you great NSA folks are enjoying my posts here.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Hear, hear.

I agree entirely. Great point about the spy vehicle, too.


24 posted on 08/24/2013 6:09:22 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I lost a lawnmower this past year to E10

Did you ever find it?

25 posted on 08/24/2013 6:10:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: HereInTheHeartland

It died. At the price of a new mower it was cheaper to replace than fix.


26 posted on 08/24/2013 6:13:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
It died. At the price of a new mower it was cheaper to replace than fix.

Same thing happened to my string trimmer when I began using it last summer. The 87 octane 10% ethanol/gas mixture I had used in it for the last 3 or 4 summers had ruined the carburetor and the price of replacing the carb made it more practical to just buy a new trimmer. Now I pay $.90 per gallon more for ethanol-free gas, but it should save me money in the long run if it prolongs the life of my new (almost) Echo trimmer.

27 posted on 08/24/2013 8:59:36 AM PDT by epow ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." Thomas Paine)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Thanks, but I was really playing on liberals whose causes are always directed to the poor chil'ren of the world.

Yet, they would rather try to save the planet with biofuel than demand those crops be used to feed those children.

I say Drill Baby Drill!

I would be interested in any first hand info on taxpayer funded biofuel subsidizes.

28 posted on 08/24/2013 1:24:16 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: epow

Carburetor rebuild kits for small engines run about $5 at the local saw shop.


29 posted on 08/24/2013 2:29:39 PM PDT by Sixpackplymouth
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To: Kaslin

Yes it is. Alcohol-free gasoline is better for all engines. Adding alcohol increases chamber temp and air pollutants created plus it decreases mileage.


30 posted on 08/24/2013 4:21:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Sixpackplymouth
Carburetor kits may cost about $5 as you said, but shop labor is quite high, at least it is in this area. 3 years ago the carb on my 14 year old 16” Husky chain saw needed to be rebuilt, the the starting cord mechanism needed to be replaced, and the chain brake and sprocket were worn out. The local repair shop that sells Husky saws gave me an estimate of $150. Needless to say I bought a new saw, an Echo that has an excellent rating on several websites that claim to be neutral in their ratings of brand name saws. I put countless hours of hard use on the old Husky by cutting down literally hundreds of full grown oak, hickory, black walnut, poplar, and other hardwood trees and then cutting the logs to fireplace length before the Husky needed major repairs. So my personal rating of Husqvarna saws would be A+, at least as good as my neighbors’ more expensive Stihl. I just hope the Echo is as good, but given my age (76)I won't be using it for nearly as long as I used the Husky, and it cost a few pesos less than a comparable Husky.
31 posted on 08/25/2013 9:48:56 PM PDT by epow ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." Thomas Paine)
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