Skip to comments.Bert Fish Medical Center: Smokers need not apply
Posted on 08/24/2013 4:26:29 PM PDT by EveningStar
Starting Jan. 1, Bert Fish Medical Center will no longer hire tobacco users, joining two other local hospitals in telling smokers not to apply.
Applicants will be tested for a nicotine byproduct and sign an agreement to remain tobacco-free during their employment with the New Smyrna Beach public hospital. The prohibition doesn't apply to volunteers, medical staff or Bert Fish's roughly 700 employees who were hired before the implementation date...
"Not all slopes are slippery but this one really is," said Lewis Maltby, president on the National Workrights Institute, a nonprofit offshoot of the American Civil Liberties Union based in Princeton, N.J. "The starting point for us is your boss doesn't have the right to tell you what to do in your own home. The hospital can tell you what to do during the week while you are at work, but your boss has no business telling you what you can and can't do while you are at home."
In 29 states, legislation prevents employers from discriminating based on a person's smoking during the hiring process, but Florida is not one of those states...
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This is pretty normal in healthcare now.
Everyone where I work has to pee in the bottle for nicotine tests.
If one tests positive? 2K added to your annual insurance.
Can you imagine the uproar if homosexuals need not apply?
Waiting to see this applied to pot smokers in Colorado, Seattle, etc.
Communism, totalitarianism, statism, has destroyed more lives than smokers could ever hope for. Any chance they will ban those things that liberals promote 24/7?
Just because some people willfully injure their own health through lifestyle choices, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they can’t care for other peoples’ health.
Often, it’s the opposite.
Most health freaks I meet also tend to be self-obsessed narcissists. If the smokers smoke where it won’t affect others, I’m okay with it.
Next is diabetics.
Has anyone looked at many of the nurses, doctors and others that work in a hospital? Smoking is the least of their problems.
Not to stir the pot (sic) or intentionally piss off smokers, but within our lifetimes this has gone from being “the” thing to do to being the thing NOT to do. What if the same kind of advertizing and public education campaign were applied to other drugs?
What about e-cigs and the like. I have not smoked tobacco on almost a year.
Most hospitals are run by thieving, left-wing fascists. I’m not surprised.
What about fat people?
I guess you can’t ban any of the “isms” you listed with out becoming one of them.
“Can you imagine the uproar if homosexuals need not apply?”
My thought exactly. Homosexual behavior is at least as unhealthy as smoking (much more so, actually), so how does this employer or any other discriminate solely on the basis of a potential employee’s vice?
Hey.... I take exception to that remark.... ;)
The hospital where I work has decreased insurance rates for people who lose weight and keep themselves healthy.
What about fat people?
They're a little farther down the list. The prohibitionists will get to them in due time.
Yet nicotine is a common plant alkaloid not only found in tobacco. It is also found in tomatoes, brocolli, cauliflower, and potatoes, amongst others. Yet this is the zero tolerance cookie cutter mentallity that has gotten into the medical profession.
Burnt Fish Medical Center
And in this case, as usual in rulings over the commoners by their betters, will not apply to medical staff.
In 2006, I interviewed with GE for a position as a Technical Director at Union Pacific Railroad’s North Platte, Nebraska diesel locomotive shop. UP had a smoking ban on the whole property nationwide. As I drove around with the Lead TD eyeing up the town, I asked for his frank assessment of the job, which was acting basically as slave driver supervisors to a union labor pool performing locomotive repair and maintenance. He told me quite bluntly that most days when his 13 hour shift is over, he wants to put a gun in his mouth and blow his brains out. I couldn’t imagine not being able to just pause and get one’s head straight with a cup of black coffee and a cigarette.
I took a job on the BNSF account in Galesburg, IL... and lemme tell ya, if the had a no tolerance no smoking policy there, I would have definately blown my brains out. Stress and hostility from the first second of your shift to theast... I am surprised I didn’t start drinking out there.
Made plenty of “FU General Electric” money... but that’s about it.
Yes but you have to realize that they aren’t banning smoking solely because of health reasons: They are banning it to draw attention away from totalitarianism that liberals sell non stop every minute of every day. Hitler did the same crap. Draw attention away while slipping in the holocaust on the side. They all did that. Stalin, Mao, Castro, all of them. “Be a healthy individual, oh and by the way kill all these people”. Despot Mike Bloomberg of New York city has taken it further in that direction than anyone else. Last year he demanded lists from landlords of all tenants that smoke in their apartments. No for health, but to see how they would comply which they didn’t and not surprisingly fines for apartment building violations went up 1000%. The price for freedom is eternal vigilance, not sometime, ALL the time because fascists like this are ALWAYS trying to take it away.
E=cigs would disqualify you. The Cleveland Clinic has had this policy for years, and the presence of nicotine would cost you your job, regardless of the source. They also require all employees to be fitness tested at the Cleveland Browns facilities and to join the Hospital gym, even those with other gym memberships or who run marathons.
It is insurance companies and the medical-industrial complex