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What’s in a name? Chelsea Manning and Muhammad Ali (Groan)
Salon ^ | August 24, 2013 | Andrew O'Hehir

Posted on 08/25/2013 1:04:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Consider a polarizing political and cultural figure who is seen by many people as a hero and by others as a traitor – and who has a powerful symbolic importance to members of a persecuted minority. This person adopts a new name and a new identity, which transforms his or her relationship to mainstream culture and confuses both the media and many members of the public. Many people refuse to accept the new name and identity, or treat it as a nickname or a passing fad. At age 25, this person is prosecuted for an act of conscience-driven defiance against America’s war machine, one that arguably serves as a political turning point but also strikes many people as an unpatriotic or treasonous betrayal.

Obviously I’m talking about Chelsea Manning, at least in part. The Army leaker and whistle-blower, who was recently convicted on 17 charges of espionage and theft, declared this week that she identifies as female and no longer wants to be known as Bradley. It’s an event that feels, at this early stage, like a cultural touchstone of our young century. Among other things, as my colleagues Katie McDonough and Mary Elizabeth Williams have addressed, Manning’s “Today” show statement opened up an epistemological and taxonomical can of worms in the mainstream media, which seemed startlingly unprepared to deal with the identity preference of a high-profile transgender person.

For members of the general public to feel confused about the identity issues raised by Manning’s case, and to struggle with the question of how we decide what gender someone is – is it a matter of self-definition, of a legal piece of paper, of genetics or of physical anatomy? – is not especially surprising. That kind of confusion might even be productive, were it dealt with honestly and without hateful....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; blacks; bradleymanning; chelsealately; chelseamanning; espionage; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; mentalillness; military; muhammadali; rop; transgenders
Could that be because he's STILL a man named Bradley? Because nothing has changed? I can put out a press release claiming that I'm henceforth Pope Tennessee Tuxedo I and that I'll be ruling the Vatican from my space station orbiting Mars, but that doesn't make it true!
1 posted on 08/25/2013 1:04:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So Mohammed Ali was a transexual?
I did not know that.


2 posted on 08/25/2013 1:10:47 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is it just me or does Bradley Manning in drag look like Tonya Harding ?


3 posted on 08/25/2013 1:28:19 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

He actually looked like the killer in the Movie Dressed To Kill. Michael Caine played the cross dressing killer doctor and Angie Dickenson was his victim.


4 posted on 08/25/2013 1:30:57 AM PDT by funfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He can call himself whatever name he chooses and he can say he's “Tri-sexual” for all I care. The important thing is to let him/her rot in jail until he decides he's a leprechaun...
5 posted on 08/25/2013 1:34:42 AM PDT by Netz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not confused at all. Bradley Manning is the one who is confused.


6 posted on 08/25/2013 1:51:06 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Tonya Harding just called and she’s PISSED!


7 posted on 08/25/2013 2:02:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Poor Tonya Harding. She has not aged all that well. Tonya used to be quite hot, in a trailer park sort of way. I'd have to honestly say that today she would lose a beauty contest with Manning in drag.

Manning seems to have been quite gifted in science and computers. It's an interesting fact that many M2F trans people are gifted in computer science. For instance, Sophie Wilson, formerly Roger Wilson, is the designer of the ARM processor. The ARM RISC processor powers nearly all tablet computers and Cell phones.

The inventor of the ARM and Firepath processors has been nominated for a lifetime achievement award.

8 posted on 08/25/2013 2:09:25 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; fieldmarshaldj

Hide the tire on irons!


9 posted on 08/25/2013 2:10:58 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Salon is like the Moonbat shuttle control.


10 posted on 08/25/2013 2:14:53 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Darksheare

Mobile device autocorrect: messing things up because it can.


11 posted on 08/25/2013 2:17:48 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Viennacon
Didn't that doofus Michael Kinsley go to work at Salon?

12 posted on 08/25/2013 2:18:56 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
we decide what gender someone is

I've always considered "gender" a grammatical term, specifically referring to nouns in languages other than English. Put Chelsea in the "neuter" column.

13 posted on 08/25/2013 2:20:27 AM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care how a mentally ill man feels about his “gender identity”. I don’t care what kind of gender mood a mentally ill man feels on a particular day. A person with XY chromosomes will be he/him and a person with XX chromosomes will be she/her. The rare hermaphrodite and the rare XXY are special cases, but gender identity confusion does not justify spreading the confusion to language.


14 posted on 08/25/2013 2:51:43 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I think it’s just you, LOL.


15 posted on 08/25/2013 3:58:15 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: GeronL

He/she should have been executed for treason but the liberal mindset victimization and he/she also being on the governments list of the persecuted because of his gender gives him a pass


16 posted on 08/25/2013 3:59:06 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Venturer

I meant when she was younger. When I first saw the drag pic of Manning, I thought it was Harding.


17 posted on 08/25/2013 4:00:07 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: tet68

He just didn’t want to serve his country. He should have married Hanoi Jane.


18 posted on 08/25/2013 4:36:38 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care what he calls himself as long as my tax dollars aren’t used to pay for his freakazoid medical treatment.


19 posted on 08/25/2013 5:34:36 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Every cell in his body will be a male cell until the day he dies, and even after that.

He's just a psychotic little man with serious mental problems.


20 posted on 08/25/2013 6:56:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Could that be because he's STILL a man named Bradley? Because nothing has changed? I can put out a press release claiming that I'm henceforth Pope Tennessee Tuxedo I and that I'll be ruling the Vatican from my space station orbiting Mars, but that doesn't make it true!

Yep, just as Cassius Clay was always Mohammed's name. I bet his parents were thrilled with the name change(not). My mom would have beat me silly had I changed my name like that, no matter how old I was.

21 posted on 08/25/2013 11:27:42 AM PDT by calex59
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