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Surveillance camera captures brutal up-close murder in San Jose
KTVU-TV ^ | August 25, 2013

Posted on 08/25/2013 10:10:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

SAN JOSE, Calif. — A 22-year-old father of six was brutally murdered in broad daylight Saturday while standing in a restaurant parking lot in downtown San Jose and a nearby surveillance camera captured the entire scene.

Witnesses too scared to go on camera told KTVU that the shooting stemmed from a fight, saying someone struck the victim, 22-year-old Ramon Garcia with axe-like weapon before he was shot and killed.

Later that night, a woman dropped by the scene and lit candles near the spot where Garcia was found.

She would not identify herself but she told KTVU that she had been dating Garcia.

“He wanted to change but he didn't have the right amount of love around him to change,” the unidentified woman told KTVU.

(Excerpt) Read more at ktvu.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; blackrage; california; florida; georgezimmerman; holder; ktvu; multiculturalism; ramongarcia; sanjose; trayvonmartin

1 posted on 08/25/2013 10:10:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Father of 6?


2 posted on 08/25/2013 10:12:14 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Without reading beyond “A 22-year-old father of six was brutally murdered in broad daylight Saturday,” . . I know he is one of Obama’s sons.


3 posted on 08/25/2013 10:14:04 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Norm Lenhart

>>Father of 6?<<

“22-year-old father of six”

WTF?

So, WE are the parents of 6. What is a 22-yo doing creating 6 kids?

This is tragic, but this guy was creating problems for everyone.


4 posted on 08/25/2013 10:15:25 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (In theory, theory is the same as practice. In practice, practice is not the same as theory.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Wow, a fight with an axe.

Can't wait for the first warhammer or halbeard attack.

5 posted on 08/25/2013 10:15:49 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well. . .slap me silly and call me ‘grandma,” he is not one of Obama’s sons, but a clean living “Garcia.”

Amazing. . .


6 posted on 08/25/2013 10:16:29 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Norm Lenhart

And there’s a good chance that they all speak Spanish in the home.


7 posted on 08/25/2013 10:16:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“He wanted to change but he didn’t have the right amount of love around him to change,” the unidentified woman told KTVU.”

He actually did change, from living to dead. Gee, I guess none of the 6 kids will be seeing their child support as if they were getting any to begin with.

Load up the dumpster and take it away.


8 posted on 08/25/2013 10:17:57 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

22 years old...

6 children.....

Living in the highest cost area of the United States...

With no real skills, other than knowing how to make babies...

No Problems, right?


9 posted on 08/25/2013 10:19:12 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Norm Lenhart

If authorities have yet to catch the murderer and there are both numerous eyewitnesses and surveillance footage of the murder, why not state what the suspect looks like so that the public can help catch him? Why not use a still frame from the surveillance tape in the article so the public can help identify the suspect? Why so coy with the suspect’s identifying characteristics?


10 posted on 08/25/2013 10:19:47 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

almost a daily occurrence in sleepy little san jose,,

East san jose remains a simmering war zone.. senseless crimes, home invasions, nothing new for the bay area but..

Kudos to the gang cops that try and keep ‘em cool.. good luck.

6 kids , no Dad no more

maybe that candle will light the community up to the fact that murderers walk amongst us , murderers in plain view, proud of their tatts.. and colors.


11 posted on 08/25/2013 10:20:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When’s the car wash? My PU is dusty!


12 posted on 08/25/2013 10:22:27 AM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go!)
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To: Hulka

If you watch the video surveillance footage the perp looks like it might be a SOB.


13 posted on 08/25/2013 10:23:05 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

I’d say gangs are involved. Perhaps he had annoyed some rival gang or maybe he was trying to get out of his own gang and knew too much.

Because of the crackdown on guns, a lot of gang bangers are now carrying hammers, axes, sharpened screwdrivers, etc. - anything they can theoretically pass off as something legal.


14 posted on 08/25/2013 10:23:14 AM PDT by livius
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Looks like the Hispanic victim was chased as he was riding a bicycle when gunned down. Then he got the axe.


15 posted on 08/25/2013 10:24:09 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Just did. . .and you are right. . .looks that way.


16 posted on 08/25/2013 10:24:36 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“He wanted to change but he didn’t have the right amount of love around him to change,”....Huh? I had the right amount of ambition to change myself. Into a successful shithead..sans six kids I knew I couldn’t afford, and they couldn’t afford me. Why is everyone a victim of something?


17 posted on 08/25/2013 10:27:02 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

“Why so coy with the suspect’s identifying characteristics?”

Don’t you understand that if the collectivist media did not sanitize the news all you would hear at 7AM, 12 noon, 5pm, and 10pm newscasts are...

“Black man murders black kid”

“Black man robs convenience store (or bank)”

“Gang of black kids beat white teen to death”

“Gang of black yoots gang rape Hispanic 12 year old girl”

They aren’t going to allow the reality-based stereotype that Blacks are a disproportionally violent group of people into the public consciousness.


18 posted on 08/25/2013 10:27:55 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Is axe control the next cause du jour? Has Bloomberg been axed to weigh in?
19 posted on 08/25/2013 10:32:38 AM PDT by JPG (Obama, Juan and Linda Do Egypt.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Repeat Offender; GenXteacher; Nervous Tick; BlatherNaut; ColdOne; Marcella; ...
Doesn't look like this one was for trayvon. Just another day in the.... I was going to say life, but that doesn't seem right.

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20 posted on 08/25/2013 10:34:22 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Here’s another example of the same sanitized news just posted on FR.

Huge riot breaks out over ‘cup of noodles’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3058644/posts

What are the odds it was a riot involving most Black teens? I would say very high based on the details (and lack thereof) given.

Again, the collectivist mass media isn’t going to allow that simple truth of Blacks being disproportionally violent to pervade the consciousness of the average American.


21 posted on 08/25/2013 10:35:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Was that Lizzie Borden running away from the crime scene?


22 posted on 08/25/2013 10:43:10 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Hulka
I know he is one of Obama’s sons.

San Jose's version anyway.

23 posted on 08/25/2013 10:47:56 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Now I am just being a punk.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

” 22-year-old father of six “

So people who get welfare, EBT cards, ‘food stamps’, obamaphones and free housing can afford to have 6 kids? And normal, hard-working honest productive people can’t?

Sick of it yet?


24 posted on 08/25/2013 10:48:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tico’s Tacos, near the intersection of North Third and Julian Street.


25 posted on 08/25/2013 11:02:06 AM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: freedumb2003
What is a 22-yo doing creating 6 kids?

This is tragic, but this guy was creating problems for everyone.

While this may be true, you must admit that a whack to the chops wih an ax is a rather extreme birth control method..................

26 posted on 08/25/2013 11:08:14 AM PDT by varon ( cum tyrannis para bellum)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Oldeconomybuyer.
...someone struck the victim, 22-year-old Ramon Garcia with axe-like weapon before he was shot and killed.
I'd like to say, "in before the victim is blamed for getting murdered," but it's not so.


27 posted on 08/25/2013 11:27:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: TaMoDee
Some FReepers may not get your drift.

But as a resident of Northern California, I know what you are talking about, and laughed out loud, even though this is such an unfortunate, but sadly - common occurrence here. Many of the car washes have such unsavory "workers" that I am even afraid to use their services. . .

28 posted on 08/25/2013 11:32:22 AM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Witnesses fear speaking cuz they don’t have guns.


29 posted on 08/25/2013 11:45:49 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: MestaMachine; LucyT; butterdezillion; shibumi; bgill; null and void

The race war has begun.

It did not start with riots in the streets and ash in the skies, as we thought it would.

It started with the word being quietly put out, and now whites are being hunted on the streets by feral blacks.

But the Leftists don’t want you to know it yet. They don’t want you to know there is an obvious in-your-face race war in progress. They want whites to feel an undertow of dread, to feel powerless and helpless against the black horde that is lurking, waiting inside the urban kraals.

Fear causes paralysis. The ever-mounting tide of hate from the Left is frightening people. And that means inaction, either preparing for it, or perceiving reality.

The race was has begun, and the feral blacks are the shock troops.


30 posted on 08/25/2013 12:04:19 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Regulator
22 years old... 6 children..... Living in the highest cost area of the United States... With no real skills, other than knowing how to make babies... No Problems, right?

"MEXICAN-AMERICAN" GIGILO
31 posted on 08/25/2013 12:09:56 PM PDT by R AND R IN 2012
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To: Old Sarge

Mmmmmmm, mmmmmmmmmm, mmmmmmmm.


32 posted on 08/25/2013 12:15:42 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill
Mmmmmmm, mmmmmmmmmm, mmmmmmmm.


33 posted on 08/25/2013 12:17:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A 22-year-old father of six?


34 posted on 08/25/2013 12:36:45 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another “Trayvon honoring ceremony”?


35 posted on 08/25/2013 12:38:51 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
(22-year-old) Father of six?

Yes, "but he didn't have the right amount of love around him".

Seems to me he had maybe more than his share.

36 posted on 08/25/2013 12:55:58 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Around him, under him, in front of him, atop him....And for all we know, spinning about him like a top....


37 posted on 08/25/2013 1:00:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Mouton
I guess none of the 6 kids will be seeing their child support

I somehow doubt Mr. Garcia was paying any child support...

38 posted on 08/25/2013 1:01:20 PM PDT by Popman (PTRD (Post Traumatic Racism Disorder)....coming to a court room soon....)
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To: Old Sarge; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn; ...
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# 30 is important. Check it out.

Thanks, Old Sarge.

39 posted on 08/25/2013 2:24:58 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: Hulka

Obama celebrates Independence day on September 16th?


40 posted on 08/25/2013 4:30:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: null and void

Dang. I’m hungry but Tico’s is at 4th.

Just quibling....

Use to go to that crap bar kitty corner and then Tico’s.


41 posted on 08/25/2013 4:36:34 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: null and void

Tico Taco is located on North 4th St., and St. James. I have to go 2 buildings down from there once a week for DUI class (NTSI). St. James Park between 3rd and 2nd is a cesspool of homeless old drunks, sad, two-bit hookers; low-end drug dealers, and every other misfit one could imagine. I wish I had never drove drunk, but unfortunately, even if I left CA, I would have to come back to Santa Clara County in order to drive. Im am basically held prisoner here till next June. Better get a bullet proof vest to go to my weekly classes. The reporters and photo farts can’t even get their street crossings streets correct-—medical marijauna is legal here though.


42 posted on 08/25/2013 4:52:46 PM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: JPG

Where will they demand the trigger locks be placed on axes? I’m sure Feinswein and Pelicanosi are working on it ...


43 posted on 08/25/2013 5:00:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Old Sarge

Fear? I can assure you there is not a single drop of fear in my body. ZERO! If that’s what thy want, they need to do the math first. Then they need to take stock of their inventory to carry on their war, then they better thing long and hard about it.


44 posted on 08/25/2013 6:13:24 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( The purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect the other nine.)
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To: Regulator
22 years old... 6 children..... Living in the highest cost area of the United States... With no real skills, other than knowing how to make babies... No Problems, right?

I'm sure he wasn't supporting any of the children - or the mothers... Any ideas who was supporting his brood?

45 posted on 08/25/2013 7:14:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (Young black men -- 3% of the population -- commit 50% of the murders in this society.)
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To: GOPJ
Any ideas who was supporting his brood?

Got a mirror?

46 posted on 08/25/2013 7:16:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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