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Vietnam vet Mick Kramer fought for Australia, but he's been denied a passport
news.com.au ^ | 26th August 2013 | Ian McPhedran

Posted on 08/25/2013 2:25:33 PM PDT by naturalman1975

Edited on 08/25/2013 2:27:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A VIETNAM Veteran - who altered the date on his naturalisation certificate so he could fight for Australia - has been denied a passport more than 45 years later.

The change of date scrawled in pen didn't stop the Australian Army from sending German-born Mick Kramer to war in 1967, but decades later officials not only refused him a passport they even threatened him with jail for "falsifying a document".


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It's a pretty absurd situation - in 1967, Australian law still considered somebody a minor until they were 21, and so voluntarily enlisting in the armed forces required permission of a parent or guardian.

But at the time, Australia had conscription - and the age at which a man could be conscripted was, in fact, 20, which is how old Mr Kramer was at the time.

1 posted on 08/25/2013 2:25:33 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Stupid bureaucrats with power. BTW, what is the definition of power? The ability to inflict suffering on others. Orwell 1984.


2 posted on 08/25/2013 2:29:01 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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This is exactly the type of situation the pardon power should deal with. Where enforcing the letter of the law produces an unjust result.


3 posted on 08/25/2013 3:00:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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This is exactly the type of situation the pardon power should deal with.

Pardon power? More like: have him plead "guilty" to some *civil* (not criminal) infraction that carries a $50 fine and then the matter's closed.

4 posted on 08/25/2013 3:30:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: naturalman1975

Bizarre. Surely this can be fixed.


5 posted on 08/25/2013 3:33:13 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; OldNewYork

The problem does seem to be bureaucracy. He has not been charged with an offence, and there doesn’t seem to be any intention of doing so - I think the basic desire to fix the problem is there. They just won’t show any flexibility on the requirements - he can’t give them his German birth certificate in a format acceptable to the Australian government, because Germany doesn’t release such documents in that format. But they keep insisting that’s what they have to do.

I don’t know how long he’s been trying, but Australia is currently in ‘caretaker government’ mode because of our election in two weeks - during the caretaker period, bureaucrats only make non-routine decisions if they can’t be delayed until after the election. Maybe that is making some difference.


6 posted on 08/25/2013 3:43:17 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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Plenty of American soldiers lied about their age in the old days. One would hate to think it affected their lives in the long term!


7 posted on 08/25/2013 4:10:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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