Skip to comments.Woman to government: My inability to remember qualifies me as disabled
Posted on 08/26/2013 8:11:22 AM PDT by redreno
Tina Kitchel stirred awake in Spring Valley Hospital with a tube in her mouth and her arms riddled with needle marks from an IV.
Her husband stood at her bedside, relieved to see her awaken. She stared back at him like he was a stranger in a crowd. There was so much she didnt know.
Nearly two weeks prior, she was in the third trimester of pregnancy their second child. A complication stopped her heart for 27 minutes. Doctors performed an emergency cesarean section in the hallway of the hospital to rescue her child and bring her back to life. She had been in a coma for the past 13 days.
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I had a comment but I forgot what I was about to write.
Is this article about H. Clinton?
She can’t remember her name, but she remembers how to apply for government money...
I forgot too!
Sign me up!
That puts most of us boomers on the disabled list.
Long term SS disability implies the inability to work, not remember the past.
Then just send every 2012 Obama voter a monthly disability check. It’s what they all really wanted, anyway.
Hot diggity dog - SSDI here I come...
In fairness, apparently her hoppocampus was destroyed by having her heart stop of 27 minutes. She literally can’t recall anything more than a few minutes -— same as alzheimer’s essentially.
IF being voluntarily fat is a disability (which it is, according to Obama’s ADA regs), this is certainly a disability.
I agree. I’ve noticed lately two things about me:
1. My short term memory is bad
2. Can’t remember the second thing
No the hippopotamus
3,616 people in Clark County (Nevada?) seeking benefits? How many people nationwide? 12 million or so checks go out last time I checked.
...$2,000 a month, a stipend for her children and medical insurance...
The Lord can provide for all of these people, and our Christian Bible promises He will, if they seek Him. But how will the Federal government provide for numbers like these?
Can she be retrained into another job? Possibly. With time.
You freep on an iPhone & see how ur speling is.
I think hop-o-campus was the name of a college bar, but I really don't remember much of it.
Seriously, though, if part of her brain was destroyed because of medical problems then I can accept that as a legitimate disability. Running out of your 99 weeks of unemployment and then suddenly finding you have a previously undiagnosed back problem - not so much.
Welcome to the party, Pal.
She remembers a disability check is the result of her actions. Seems she remembers just fine.
No, the hippocampus is responsible for giving you the ability to process short-term memory, not remember the past. It's where the things which just happened to you are temporarily stored until your brain can process them and put them into longer-term storage. If it is damaged, you can no longer remember things. Hers was permanently damaged, along with other past memories, leaving her without the ability to process new memories, as well as severely fractured memories of certain past events.
Sounds like a nightmare scenario to me. I'm saddened to see so many FReepers make fun of her.
“I agree. Ive noticed lately two things about me:
1. My short term memory is bad
2. Cant remember the second thing”
You have CRS Syndrome.
Can’t Remember Sh*t.
Wait a second, did you say the Hippodrome?
I’d say she’s disabled, unfortunately.
It does indeed sound like a nightmare scenario.
I feel for her and her family.
Can she be retrained into another job? Possibly. With time.
First off, her doctor says she can never work again and he will never clear her to work.
She can’t get to work on her on own. She can’t drive, she can’t take a bus.
She can’t even remember she HAS a job.
Doesn’t matter if she’s watching monitors or peeling potatoes. If she gets up to go the bathroom, she doesn’t know what to come back to. So does the company she’s working for hire someone to lead her around? Who’s going to do that?
Face it. She’s totally disabled.
I have a friend who cannot work because of “chemo brain”. After surviving cancer and chemotherapy 5 times, due to a recurring tumor on the back of her neck, her brain is fried. Her family moved to North Carolina, and she is having trouble driving because nothing looks familiar, even though she has been there a year. She was a manager of a vocational nursing school before the cancer— very employable indeed. Now, she can’t remember new acquaintances and can’t remember instructions, like what to do when it’s her turn on a board game. She can still do things around the house, but it would be dangerous to employ her in a work environment. She could forget something crucial.
There are some people who really are disabled for employment due to memory problems. And of course, even if they would not know or remember about disability, their loved ones sure would.
There are folks who have worked for years with a disability and never said anything because their job didn’t impact the disability. Then “SHAZAM!”, they’re laid off work and can’t find a job in the same discipline.
The jobs I held were basically desk jobs requiring occasional field work but mostly mental, like analysis and writing reports. The fact I had a serious, potentially life-threatening disability because my lower back had been broken due to physical abuse when I was 3-years old, never impacted my job performance. Then I was laid off.
I have not been able to get another job. I cannot lift anything heavier than 15 lbs. Constant walking, carrying weight or lifting a heavy object is out of the question.
Thankfully, the back problem hasn’t resulted in my becoming a paraplegic, though that may be in the future. Right now I have only six months to go before Social Security kicks in.
Apply for disability? No. But I do understand why some people would do so.
Exactly. And she'll damn well remember that a check is coming every month once the government puts her on the gravy train too. This is what is going to kill this country. Society doesn't function when everyone is on the public teet and no one is working.
Coma, brain injury, permanent residual memory impairment, are you going to hire her? In addition to reminding her about what she is doing every few minutes, you will need to hire a couple of extra people to keep her from wandering off.
There are those happy with “... 11 months of waiting.”
Ask any attorney, the longer the wait the more they reap in fees.
Not just the attorneys.
I know of two people (one possibly disabled, one a scammer)who finally got disability AND retroactive payments in a lump sum to cover the wait.
The formula is:
Attorney gets 40% of the ssdi amount from the time of original appl until ssdi is granted. Nothing after that.
So no lawyer in private practice or lawyer in congress wants a speedy process.
The retroactive payments are the trough from which the attorneys feed, on the order of 30-40%.
I don’t believe in public welfare such as SSI. There are insurance programs, Short and Longer Term Disability people pay for, including myself. I shouldn’t be taxed to pay for someone else’s disability insurance as well. That’s taxation without representation; they take my money to represent someone else.
But for right now she is not able to work at any paying job.
You mean things in the past like...how to do her technically-demanding job? Or the inability to remember anything long enough to master a new skill? There is a reason for disability payments, and not everyone who tries to get them is scamming the system. This woman's ability to remember anything has been destroyed. She can't return to her old job. She can't learn a new one. Her condition may improve, but likely it won't. She paid into Social Security while working. She's entitled to the safety net now.
My husband was training an employee to do a fairly simple task, each day she would master the task and be doing fine. Hubby told me the problem was every day she showed up it was as if she had forgotten what she had learned before, he literally had to train her every morning. He trained people for years and said she was the only one he felt he could not train. I have no idea if the woman he tried to train had some sort of issue or if her mind just couldn’t wrap around that sort of work, but not remembering really can be an issue to holding a job.
No, the compensation for attorneys working on denied disability claims is set by law at 15%, not 40%, plus a reasonable amount for expenses. . . Which is usually set by the administrative law judge. You're right that it applies only to the arrears amount.
hip-hoppocampus. Prevalent in certain segments of society.
We don't consider her disabled at this point because there are things that she can do... so she does a lot of volunteer work. She never applied for unemployment because there were complications after her surgery where she had some very bad digestive problems and lost a lot of weight (down to well under 80 pounds). We really weren't sure if she was even going to make it for a while. And she could not work at that time or even volunteer. So she is also now just a few years from being able to collect normal Social Security.
She has been trying to find work because things have been tight for our family these past few years. Unfortunately, now that she hasn't worked for several years; it is very difficult for her to find a job especially especially given that she has some limitations. When we were younger she never had any difficulties... she is very good at interviews, but now that she is older and has had some health issues... no one even calls back for a followup.
We are going to be fine, but we have a greater understanding of the difficulties other people are going through.
We do know other people who are very good at taking advantage of the system. We are very close to someone who spent 27 years enlisted in the Airforce. She started having disc problems in her neck and had two of her vertabret fused. Then she went off on disability. She gets a substantial retirement but she gets a much larger amount every month from her "disability".
Her husband is a full bird colonel. She of course didn't know what to do with herself after her structured life in the military came to an end. She ended up getting hooked on prescription pain medications. Her situation is kind of a mess at this point, but it is amazing the amount of government dollars she is pulling in. It is over twice what my wife ever made while she was working.
“No, the hippocampus is responsible for giving you the ability to process short-term memory, not remember the past. It’s where the things which just happened to you are temporarily stored until your brain can process them and put them into longer-term storage. If it is damaged, you can no longer remember things. Hers was permanently damaged, along with other past memories, leaving her without the ability to process new memories, as well as severely fractured memories of certain past events. “
If it is as you describe it, then indeed she would be disabled.
"The Lost Mariner", about Jimmie G., who has lost the ability to form new memories due to Korsakoff's syndrome. He can remember nothing of his life since the end of World War II, including events that happened only a few minutes ago. He believes it is still 1945 (in the late 70s and early 80s), and seems to behave as a normal, intelligent young man aside from his inability to remember most of his past and the events of his day-to-day life. He struggles to find meaning, satisfaction, and happiness in the midst of constantly forgetting what he is doing from one moment to the next.
They made a movie about a guy with this problem. The name of the movie is memento and if you watch it you will see how this woman is truly disabled. Truly a gut wrenching movie.
SatinDoll, you should go ahead and apply. You worked, you paid in, it is part of what came out of your paycheck every month. Don’t let the “stigma” get in the way. It can actually add to your SS payments. So go do it, today. Take a copy of your medical records showing your physical problems with you.
I recall when living in the midwest during the 80’s, the church we were attending had a ministry helping residents in a senior citizen apartment building that was open for government welfare recipients. The old folks were great, but.... one year they started renting to alchololics of any age. The seniors were afraid to leave their apartments, the social room where they would play cards before now wreaked of alchohol. The govenment had declared alchoholism a disability and made the housing unit open to them.
Also, the children on learning disability drug (can’t recall name) were declared on government disability also.
I’ve seen it, but it was a long time ago.