Skip to comments.Rush Limbaugh's move to WOR could be the start of major shift in New York talk radio
Posted on 08/26/2013 5:01:11 PM PDT by SMGFan
Rush Limbaugh's now-official move to WOR (710 AM) on Jan. 1 could be the first in a series of dominoes that reshape New York talk radio.
That will be especially true if Sean Hannity joins him and gives WOR the afternoon combo Rush from noon-3 p.m. and Hannity from 3-6 p.m. that propelled WABC to the top of city talk radio and has kept it there this whole century.
Widespread reports have Hannity wanting to get away from Cumulus, which owns WABC. Hannitys current syndication deal is through Premiere, which is a division of Clear Channel, which owns WOR. His Premiere deal expires at the end of the year, but it would be no stretch to see him reupping and joining 710. Clear Channel bought WOR a year ago and has been more or less marking time there, with ratings it no doubt wants to improve. While Limbaugh and Hannitys listenership has flattened out in the last few years, they still host the two most popular radio talk shows in the country.
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With all the free advertisement Comrade Barry has been giving Rush expect another spike in listeners.
Even though I am in Asia, I can hear RUSH every day, thanks to my DAR.FM recording service. It is a really great service that records ANY and all radio programs that you ask it to do.
I am listening to Monday’s Rush as I type this. It is 8 AM, Tuesday here. Check it out at www.dar.fm
Rush on WOR? Yay!!!! I grew up listening to Bob and Ray and Jean Shepard and Bob Grant on that station so it’s all good. Seriously, I’m not a fan of Joan Hamburg so it’s even better.
I miss my mom getting us up and listening to John Gambling reading school closings. That was magical.
That would be great if Levin moves over too, keep the triumverate in place!
And they should bring back STEVE MALZBERG!
Now Cumulus is free to put Huck on WABC and show us how he can crush Rush ;-)
How Hannity gets anywhere near the top ratings is a mystery to me.
What’s going to happen to Joan Hamburg? For out-of-towners, she’s a 78-year old yenta who has been pushed all around the clock on WOR, most recently bumped to the noon spot against Rush. She mostly talks about restaurants, travel, stuff like that. Not too political. When Rush moves to WOR, he’ll take her spot. I kind of feel sorry for her. She’s been on WOR for about 40 years.
Bob Grant, the man who started it all.
Levine thinks he’s funny with the :”get off my phone!” shtick.
Bob was doing that back in the ‘70’s, when Levine wasn’t even an itch in his ol man’s pants.
(Well, maybe Levine is older than I think, but he was just a babe in the woods back then.)
WOR picked up Bob when ABC got weak shaky knees (and folded like a “cheap camera”) after Bob said something that was 100% true. Forget what it was, but WOR has always been eating ABC’s lunch. After the faggots at Disney bought the channel, it was only a matter of time till they cut Grant off at the knees.
“Pusillanimous Pipsqueaks,” all. Gavones and gagazoets. The “march of the gavones.”
Grant was ahead of his time.
It’s still a very interesting turn of events. WABC has been the king of talk radio in NYC for decades. At one time they had the top ratings in NYC in every show except for the 6-10 slot in the morning. Those were the days when they had former mayor Ed Koch on in the late mornings until noon, Rush Limbaugh from 12-3, Bob Grant from 3-7, Jay Diamond during the evenings, and Curtis Sliwa (and later a young Sean Hannity) on the overnights. That was an unbelievable talk radio lineup.
“hey, can I get Larry Glick on this thing?”
WOR was a great station back in the day. Talk radio as we know it was born there. Long John Nebel was the prototype for Art Bell. Shepherd wasn’t political, but he proved that you could be a success just talking for 45 minutes straight. They normally had 15 minutes of news each hour, instead of the 5 minute potty break we have now.
Have you seen the New York Message Board? I just took a peek, it’s very busy right now about this subject. There is a thread that Savage may fill one of the slots.
I don’t see anything about Joan Hamburg. Maybe she’s going to retire or go to a weekend slot.
I don’t know if I can post a link to the board but its the first one in google.
She hasn't paid for a meal in over 40 years.
Just a minute, lemme check (whistles)...yup, you can.
Yeah, loved Shep on WOR. Mom used to listen to Dorothy Killgalon (sp) she once said they had stopped making waffle ice cream cones, Mom sent her some I remember listening and sure enough she got the cones and nibbled on some, thanking my Mom. It was a big deal at the time for Mom!
People can also tune in to the many stations on the internet that carry his show. I’m in the habit of doing that now and avoiding static from my radios.
WABC is 50 kW station, WOR is down in the mud, low power, smaller range.
Bob Grant got me into talk radio. He influenced my political thinking, much to my parents chagrin. I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Mr.
Grant. He’s a very smart man, he knew what was going on with former Gov McGreevy before that hit the fan. I miss him on the air.
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If you have a SmartPhone you can download TuneIn and find a station with Rush. Also, you can listen on line at TuneIn.com
They have links to stations all over
Long John Nebel and Candy Were before my time, I’ve heard a few of their tapes around, and enjoyed what I heard.
Art Bell I liked, but you can’t take seriously. George Noory, I’m not thrilled with. I go to books on tape now if I can’t sleep.
I loved Jean Shepard. It was a treat to stay up late to listen to him. WOR was a great staton back then, WABC was WA Beatle C. They played music. I remember when they went to talk radio, I think they had both Rush and Lynn Samuels on. It was like point counter point from SNL.
Wow. That was way before my time, I’m going to have to call my mom tomorrow and see if she remembers this host. I’ve heard the name.
I hope you enjoyed the waffle cones, they sound yummy.
I get WABC in north central WV at night, I like John Batchelor.
Right. But WABC is a 50,000 watt “Clear Channel” station, WOR is not.
All join The Blaze!
GB in the morning.
Rush at Noon.
The Great One after 3.
Curtis & Kuby til 10
Bachelor til 12
Then back by popular demand, Live from Subic Bay, Art Bell on the overnight!
WOR got all wee-weed up and wouldn’t pony up for GB a short time ago.
Hannity’s a Doofus.
Gambling is a big RINO and I can’t listen to him anymore.
It must be the antenna pattern then, going west of NYC signal of WOR starts disappearing half way through NJ, while WABC is solid beyond Port Jervis.
Man....I envy you. Jean Shepard....LIVE!
I don’t think hearing Rush, while living in the Philippines as Alex does after rushing away from the US but keeping his US social security, and sending in no income tax completed form, ever, would be relevant. As Ms. Clinton says, “What difference does it make?”. Putting the radio on Philippino music, whatever that is (maybe coconuts hitting together) would make more sense. He says he lives on the beach - that’s a lot of sand in everything.
Umm.. Your link to the wikithing shows WOR as clear channel...
700 WLW Cincinnati, Ohio 710 KIRO Seattle, Washington 710 WOR New York, New York 720 WGN Chicago, Illinois 730 CKAC Montreal, Quebec 730 XEX Mexico City, D.F. 740 CFZM[b] Toronto, Ontario 750 WSB Atlanta, Georgia 760 WJR Detroit, Michigan 770 WABC New York, New York 780 WBBM Chicago, Illinois 800 XEROK Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua
Only at night
“If you have a SmartPhone you can download TuneIn”
Yes, I have used TuneIn, formerly RadioTime.com
The point of mentioning Dar.fm is that you do not have to listen live. DAR records the program for you, on their servers. You play it back whenever you like. This is most useful for those living outside of the states.
Totally with you on all points. I quite fondly recall the AM transistor radio on the kitchen countertop... WOR was on every morning. In the afternoon when mom was getting dinner ready, Bernie Meltzer was always on. I even remember the drives home from my grandmother’s in the ‘62 Ford Falcon Station Wagon... and Jean Shephard was on.
A few years back I found I was back in NJ again... and I set up an AM radio in the kitchen... mornings when I would be starting a soup stock or egg salad or some meal prep, I would just leave the radio be... and it would go from Rambling with Gambling to Joan Hamburg... I could not stand Joan, but there was just something “right” with the world because WOR was still the same... coming out of a lo-fi mono counter-top transistor radio speaker... as God intended.
We got WOR just fine on the west side of Jugtown Mountain out in western NJ. I get a signal well into PA as well when I am driving west.
You guys wanna talk 50kW flamethower signal on that list of yours, CFZM 740 zoomer radio out of Toronto... I would pick that up down in New Jersey... it was great to hear old time radio shows at night... and it became my “go to” station it I wanted to hear Christmas music when going out to drive around and look at Christmas lights. It was the Christmas music I remembered as a kid... as opposed to that God-damned commie Springsteen’s version of Santa Claus is Coming to Town.
I forgot about Bernie Meltzer!!! I remember him!
Neither link works. However, if you can manage to get that final ")" in the link it will.
Now... Are you sure you understand the concept here? Both WOR and WABC are class A clear channel stations. For the purposes of this thread (discussing Rush's move to WOR) it makes basically no difference since he is on in the Noon to 3 slot in the NYC area. This time frame is covered by the Primary signal area that each station covers. Within that primary signal area there are no other radio stations on that frequency. Beyond the primary signal area, certain clear channel frequencies can have low powered AM stations which typically are 'daytimers' (class D) which cease transmitting at sundown, or if still allowed to transmit, do so on severely decreased power, say from 5000 watts to 100 watts. WOR is clear channel at night which means any station transmitting on 710 khz is a daytimer and is not in the primary coverage zone. The other station on 710 khz is out on the west coast (also a 'clear channel' station) and would not cause interference even after sundown (in most cases) and even if it does, only in the areas of signal overlap which in this case would be somewhere around the Mississippi River.
Either way, the net result is that both WOR and WABC have nearly identical primary patterns and thus the total prospective audience for Rush's program within either station's listening area is unchanged.
Two items of interest however. From the wikithing article you originally posted we find this tidbit: "One station, KOB in Albuquerque, New Mexico, fought a long legal battle against the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and New York's WABC for the right to move from a regional channel to a clear channel, 770 kHz, arguing that the New York signal was so weak in the mountain west that it served no one. KOB eventually won the argument in the late 1960s." If you look up station KKOB you will find that they also are a 50000 watt station on 770 khz, the same as WABC.
Looking a bit further we find another interesting tidbit: "On May 29, 1980, the FCC voted to limit the protection for the twenty-five clear channel stations to a 750-mile radius around the transmitter. Those stations outside the area of protection were no longer required to sign off or power down after sundown."
So... WABC is not as clear a clear channel as you wanted us to believe. Not that it makes any difference for the purposes of this thread.
It now being many decades later, I don't do AM "dxing" (and very little driving after dark ;-) anymore! The buttons on the radio are all FM stations now (except for WABC so I can catch Rush - that can easily be switched when he changes to WOR), and the FM station I listen too when I venture over the border into NJ fades out when I get back on my side of the mountain..
Sounds like a good idea. Especially since many talk show hosts, like Rush, do not permit free replay of their broadcasts. However, some, like Mark Levin, do permit listening to free re-broadcasts.
I now have three programs being recorded by DAR.fm.
Rush, Savage, and Kook to Kook AM. I could do more, but I can listen to only so much radio. Anyway, any program that is being broadcast in the US can be set up on DAR. Keep in mind, your computer does not have to be online for it to work.
You log into DAR when you want to listen to your program.
I exchanged a few emails with the guy that started the service when it was new.
I try to promote his service whenever I can.
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Rush never ran away...
Yeah, it must wear on the conscience to hear patriots like Rush and his listeners talk about what needs to be done to restore our Republic, while you're living the good life on a beach in a Third World sewer. Oh that's right...you don't have a conscience. You brag about having turned chicken a** and running away just when your nation needs you most. Bock-bock-bock-bock-BWAAAAAAAAAAAAK!
"Anyway, any program that is being broadcast in the US can be set up on DAR."
Gee, those of us who have stayed put, and are ready to do the heavy lifting to restore our Republic, don't need to program our computers to record Rush. We can tune to our local Rush affiliates, and listen to him live, on good ol' broadcast radio. Why? Because unlike you, we're not cowardly expats who have not only turned their backs on their nation, but are trying to convince others to do the same.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
WBZ... I would drive back to NJ from Galesburg, IL, and I would be able to pick up WBZ near the OH/IN border.
I love the AM skip.
"Hi, Uncle Bernie. Thank you sooo much for taking my cawl..."
Same here. If he didn't come on right after Rush (and O'Reilly btw), he'd probably be more like number 20.
When Rush says he is show prep for the rest of the media, I think he is talking specifically about Hannity.