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Rush Limbaugh's move to WOR could be the start of major shift in New York talk radio
New York Daily News ^ | August 26, 2013

Posted on 08/26/2013 5:01:11 PM PDT by SMGFan

Rush Limbaugh's now-official move to WOR (710 AM) on Jan. 1 could be the first in a series of dominoes that reshape New York talk radio.

That will be especially true if Sean Hannity joins him and gives WOR the afternoon combo — Rush from noon-3 p.m. and Hannity from 3-6 p.m. — that propelled WABC to the top of city talk radio and has kept it there this whole century.

Widespread reports have Hannity wanting to get away from Cumulus, which owns WABC. Hannity’s current syndication deal is through Premiere, which is a division of Clear Channel, which owns WOR. His Premiere deal expires at the end of the year, but it would be no stretch to see him reupping and joining 710. Clear Channel bought WOR a year ago and has been more or less marking time there, with ratings it no doubt wants to improve. While Limbaugh and Hannity’s listenership has flattened out in the last few years, they still host the two most popular radio talk shows in the country.

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As long as Rush is "here" it doesn't matter where "here" is.
1 posted on 08/26/2013 5:01:11 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan
While Limbaugh’s listenership has flattened out in the last few years, they still host the two most popular radio talk shows in the country.

With all the free advertisement Comrade Barry has been giving Rush expect another spike in listeners.

2 posted on 08/26/2013 5:07:39 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: SMGFan

Even though I am in Asia, I can hear RUSH every day, thanks to my DAR.FM recording service. It is a really great service that records ANY and all radio programs that you ask it to do.
I am listening to Monday’s Rush as I type this. It is 8 AM, Tuesday here. Check it out at www.dar.fm


3 posted on 08/26/2013 5:14:50 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: SMGFan

Rush on WOR? Yay!!!! I grew up listening to Bob and Ray and Jean Shepard and Bob Grant on that station so it’s all good. Seriously, I’m not a fan of Joan Hamburg so it’s even better.

I miss my mom getting us up and listening to John Gambling reading school closings. That was magical.


4 posted on 08/26/2013 5:20:10 PM PDT by Gefn (More Cowbell)
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To: SMGFan

That would be great if Levin moves over too, keep the triumverate in place!


5 posted on 08/26/2013 5:27:39 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: SMGFan

And they should bring back STEVE MALZBERG!


6 posted on 08/26/2013 5:31:48 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: SMGFan

Now Cumulus is free to put Huck on WABC and show us how he can crush Rush ;-)

How Hannity gets anywhere near the top ratings is a mystery to me.


7 posted on 08/26/2013 5:33:26 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Gefn

What’s going to happen to Joan Hamburg? For out-of-towners, she’s a 78-year old yenta who has been pushed all around the clock on WOR, most recently bumped to the noon spot against Rush. She mostly talks about restaurants, travel, stuff like that. Not too political. When Rush moves to WOR, he’ll take her spot. I kind of feel sorry for her. She’s been on WOR for about 40 years.


8 posted on 08/26/2013 5:35:23 PM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: Gefn

Bob Grant, the man who started it all.

Levine thinks he’s funny with the :”get off my phone!” shtick.

Bob was doing that back in the ‘70’s, when Levine wasn’t even an itch in his ol man’s pants.

(Well, maybe Levine is older than I think, but he was just a babe in the woods back then.)

WOR picked up Bob when ABC got weak shaky knees (and folded like a “cheap camera”) after Bob said something that was 100% true. Forget what it was, but WOR has always been eating ABC’s lunch. After the faggots at Disney bought the channel, it was only a matter of time till they cut Grant off at the knees.

“Pusillanimous Pipsqueaks,” all. Gavones and gagazoets. The “march of the gavones.”

Grant was ahead of his time.


9 posted on 08/26/2013 5:41:11 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: SMGFan

It’s still a very interesting turn of events. WABC has been the king of talk radio in NYC for decades. At one time they had the top ratings in NYC in every show except for the 6-10 slot in the morning. Those were the days when they had former mayor Ed Koch on in the late mornings until noon, Rush Limbaugh from 12-3, Bob Grant from 3-7, Jay Diamond during the evenings, and Curtis Sliwa (and later a young Sean Hannity) on the overnights. That was an unbelievable talk radio lineup.


10 posted on 08/26/2013 5:48:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: SMGFan

“hey, can I get Larry Glick on this thing?”


11 posted on 08/26/2013 5:48:26 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When there is no penalty for failure, failures proliferate." George F. Will)
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To: Gefn

WOR was a great station back in the day. Talk radio as we know it was born there. Long John Nebel was the prototype for Art Bell. Shepherd wasn’t political, but he proved that you could be a success just talking for 45 minutes straight. They normally had 15 minutes of news each hour, instead of the 5 minute potty break we have now.


12 posted on 08/26/2013 5:50:19 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: duckworth

Have you seen the New York Message Board? I just took a peek, it’s very busy right now about this subject. There is a thread that Savage may fill one of the slots.

I don’t see anything about Joan Hamburg. Maybe she’s going to retire or go to a weekend slot.

I don’t know if I can post a link to the board but its the first one in google.


13 posted on 08/26/2013 5:53:03 PM PDT by Gefn (More Cowbell)
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To: duckworth
Joan Hamburg? For out-of-towners, she’s a 78-year old yenta who has been pushed all around the clock on WOR, most recently bumped to the noon spot against Rush. She mostly talks about restaurants, travel, stuff like that.

She hasn't paid for a meal in over 40 years.

14 posted on 08/26/2013 5:57:46 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: NonValueAdded
hey, can I get Larry Glick on this thing?

Just a minute, lemme check (whistles)...yup, you can.

15 posted on 08/26/2013 5:58:33 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Gefn

Yeah, loved Shep on WOR. Mom used to listen to Dorothy Killgalon (sp) she once said they had stopped making waffle ice cream cones, Mom sent her some I remember listening and sure enough she got the cones and nibbled on some, thanking my Mom. It was a big deal at the time for Mom!


16 posted on 08/26/2013 6:06:43 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic but will he?)
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To: AlexW

People can also tune in to the many stations on the internet that carry his show. I’m in the habit of doing that now and avoiding static from my radios.


17 posted on 08/26/2013 6:14:06 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: SMGFan

WABC is 50 kW station, WOR is down in the mud, low power, smaller range.


18 posted on 08/26/2013 6:16:36 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Alberta's Child
At one time they had the top ratings in NYC in every show except for the 6-10 slot in the morning.

He didn't win his time slot (due to WOR's venerable "Rambling with Gambling"), but Dave Dawson was underappreciated, and maybe too subtle for NYC tastes.

Callers would try to bait him. One of my favorites was when some pro-abort called, and said "What if the doctor said your wife would die if she didn't get an abortion?", Dawson drily shot back "I'd get another doctor." More than once he would draw out the callers and more than once he got them so boiled that they called him a half-breed (Dawson was part Native American Indian). Then, he pointed out to the world what hypocrites they were.
19 posted on 08/26/2013 6:17:41 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Leo Carpathian
WABC is 50 kW station, WOR is down in the mud, low power, smaller range.

No. WOR is also a 50,000 watt station, and is at a lower frequency so its signal travels just fine. I don't know where you live, but in eastern CT, WOR comes in as well or better than WABC. Both stations are great legacy stations dating back to the early 20s.
20 posted on 08/26/2013 6:22:54 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Bob Grant got me into talk radio. He influenced my political thinking, much to my parents chagrin. I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Mr.
Grant. He’s a very smart man, he knew what was going on with former Gov McGreevy before that hit the fan. I miss him on the air.


21 posted on 08/26/2013 6:27:02 PM PDT by Gefn (More Cowbell)
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To: AlexW; Marcella; NFHale; DuncanWaring; Windflier
Yes, and those of us who aren't cowards who turned chicken a** and ran away to a 3rd World sh*thole, just when they country needed them the most, can listen to Rush on good ol' broadcast radio, just as we always have.

Here's another radio goodie you should check out...it's perfect for you:

Chicken Man (he's everywhere, he's everywhere!)

Coward.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

22 posted on 08/26/2013 6:28:34 PM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: driftless2; AlexW

If you have a SmartPhone you can download TuneIn and find a station with Rush. Also, you can listen on line at TuneIn.com

They have links to stations all over


23 posted on 08/26/2013 6:29:47 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Difference between George Zimmerman and Al Sharpton is that Sharpton woulda let honky family burn)
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To: Fresh Wind

Long John Nebel and Candy Were before my time, I’ve heard a few of their tapes around, and enjoyed what I heard.

Art Bell I liked, but you can’t take seriously. George Noory, I’m not thrilled with. I go to books on tape now if I can’t sleep.

I loved Jean Shepard. It was a treat to stay up late to listen to him. WOR was a great staton back then, WABC was WA Beatle C. They played music. I remember when they went to talk radio, I think they had both Rush and Lynn Samuels on. It was like point counter point from SNL.


24 posted on 08/26/2013 6:34:46 PM PDT by Gefn (More Cowbell)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

Wow. That was way before my time, I’m going to have to call my mom tomorrow and see if she remembers this host. I’ve heard the name.

I hope you enjoyed the waffle cones, they sound yummy.


25 posted on 08/26/2013 6:39:19 PM PDT by Gefn (More Cowbell)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I get WABC in north central WV at night, I like John Batchelor.


26 posted on 08/26/2013 6:47:02 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Dr. Sivana

Right. But WABC is a 50,000 watt “Clear Channel” station, WOR is not.

Read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear-channel_station


27 posted on 08/26/2013 6:53:21 PM PDT by scott55
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To: SMGFan

All join The Blaze!
GB in the morning.
Rush at Noon.
The Great One after 3.
Curtis & Kuby til 10
Bachelor til 12
Then back by popular demand, Live from Subic Bay, Art Bell on the overnight!
Woot Woot!!

WOR got all wee-weed up and wouldn’t pony up for GB a short time ago.
Hannity’s a Doofus.
Gambling is a big RINO and I can’t listen to him anymore.


28 posted on 08/26/2013 6:57:27 PM PDT by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: Dr. Sivana

It must be the antenna pattern then, going west of NYC signal of WOR starts disappearing half way through NJ, while WABC is solid beyond Port Jervis.


29 posted on 08/26/2013 6:58:00 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Gefn
I grew up listening to Bob and Ray and Jean Shepard

Man....I envy you. Jean Shepard....LIVE!

30 posted on 08/26/2013 7:00:03 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Leo Carpathian

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WOR&service=AM&status=L&hours=D

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WOR&service=AM&status=L&hours=N

http://www.radio-locator.com/info/Wabc-AM


31 posted on 08/26/2013 7:10:40 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMG is back on TV on "The Crazy Ones" this Fall on CBS)
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To: wku man; AlexW; NFHale; DuncanWaring; Windflier

I don’t think hearing Rush, while living in the Philippines as Alex does after rushing away from the US but keeping his US social security, and sending in no income tax completed form, ever, would be relevant. As Ms. Clinton says, “What difference does it make?”. Putting the radio on Philippino music, whatever that is (maybe coconuts hitting together) would make more sense. He says he lives on the beach - that’s a lot of sand in everything.


32 posted on 08/26/2013 8:14:40 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: scott55
WABC is a 50,000 watt “Clear Channel” station, WOR is not.

Umm.. Your link to the wikithing shows WOR as clear channel...

700 	WLW 	Cincinnati, Ohio
710 	KIRO 	Seattle, Washington
710 	WOR 	New York, New York
720 	WGN 	Chicago, Illinois
730 	CKAC 	Montreal, Quebec
730 	XEX 	Mexico City, D.F.
740 	CFZM[b] 	Toronto, Ontario
750 	WSB 	Atlanta, Georgia
760 	WJR 	Detroit, Michigan
770 	WABC 	New York, New York
780 	WBBM 	Chicago, Illinois
800 	XEROK 	Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua

33 posted on 08/26/2013 8:17:36 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Only at night

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOR_(AM)


34 posted on 08/26/2013 8:35:24 PM PDT by scott55
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To: NoCmpromiz

Better link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOR_(AM)


35 posted on 08/26/2013 8:36:15 PM PDT by scott55
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To: SeminoleCounty; driftless2

“If you have a SmartPhone you can download TuneIn”
___________________________________________________
Yes, I have used TuneIn, formerly RadioTime.com

The point of mentioning Dar.fm is that you do not have to listen live. DAR records the program for you, on their servers. You play it back whenever you like. This is most useful for those living outside of the states.


36 posted on 08/26/2013 9:27:56 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Gefn

Totally with you on all points. I quite fondly recall the AM transistor radio on the kitchen countertop... WOR was on every morning. In the afternoon when mom was getting dinner ready, Bernie Meltzer was always on. I even remember the drives home from my grandmother’s in the ‘62 Ford Falcon Station Wagon... and Jean Shephard was on.

A few years back I found I was back in NJ again... and I set up an AM radio in the kitchen... mornings when I would be starting a soup stock or egg salad or some meal prep, I would just leave the radio be... and it would go from Rambling with Gambling to Joan Hamburg... I could not stand Joan, but there was just something “right” with the world because WOR was still the same... coming out of a lo-fi mono counter-top transistor radio speaker... as God intended.


37 posted on 08/26/2013 9:40:06 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Leo Carpathian

We got WOR just fine on the west side of Jugtown Mountain out in western NJ. I get a signal well into PA as well when I am driving west.


38 posted on 08/26/2013 9:48:17 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: NoCmpromiz

You guys wanna talk 50kW flamethower signal on that list of yours, CFZM 740 zoomer radio out of Toronto... I would pick that up down in New Jersey... it was great to hear old time radio shows at night... and it became my “go to” station it I wanted to hear Christmas music when going out to drive around and look at Christmas lights. It was the Christmas music I remembered as a kid... as opposed to that God-damned commie Springsteen’s version of Santa Claus is Coming to Town.


39 posted on 08/26/2013 9:56:41 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

I forgot about Bernie Meltzer!!! I remember him!


40 posted on 08/27/2013 12:23:10 AM PDT by Gefn (More Cowbell)
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To: scott55
Umm...

Neither link works. However, if you can manage to get that final ")" in the link it will.

Now... Are you sure you understand the concept here? Both WOR and WABC are class A clear channel stations. For the purposes of this thread (discussing Rush's move to WOR) it makes basically no difference since he is on in the Noon to 3 slot in the NYC area. This time frame is covered by the Primary signal area that each station covers. Within that primary signal area there are no other radio stations on that frequency. Beyond the primary signal area, certain clear channel frequencies can have low powered AM stations which typically are 'daytimers' (class D) which cease transmitting at sundown, or if still allowed to transmit, do so on severely decreased power, say from 5000 watts to 100 watts. WOR is clear channel at night which means any station transmitting on 710 khz is a daytimer and is not in the primary coverage zone. The other station on 710 khz is out on the west coast (also a 'clear channel' station) and would not cause interference even after sundown (in most cases) and even if it does, only in the areas of signal overlap which in this case would be somewhere around the Mississippi River.

Either way, the net result is that both WOR and WABC have nearly identical primary patterns and thus the total prospective audience for Rush's program within either station's listening area is unchanged.

Two items of interest however. From the wikithing article you originally posted we find this tidbit: "One station, KOB in Albuquerque, New Mexico, fought a long legal battle against the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and New York's WABC for the right to move from a regional channel to a clear channel, 770 kHz, arguing that the New York signal was so weak in the mountain west that it served no one. KOB eventually won the argument in the late 1960s." If you look up station KKOB you will find that they also are a 50000 watt station on 770 khz, the same as WABC.

Looking a bit further we find another interesting tidbit: "On May 29, 1980, the FCC voted to limit the protection for the twenty-five clear channel stations to a 750-mile radius around the transmitter. Those stations outside the area of protection were no longer required to sign off or power down after sundown."

So... WABC is not as clear a clear channel as you wanted us to believe. Not that it makes any difference for the purposes of this thread.

41 posted on 08/27/2013 12:27:49 AM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Rodamala
Back when I was slightly younger than I am now, I would do a lot of driving at night. I lived in Ohio back then and had all the buttons on my car radio set for nighttime stations. The two local stations I listened to were a half-knob twist apart on the dial so I had one on a button and twisted the knob for the other. I had a Mpls/St. Paul station(WCCO?), a Chicago station (WCFL), WBZ in Boston, and WABC all of which came in rather well in northwest Ohio - at night!

It now being many decades later, I don't do AM "dxing" (and very little driving after dark ;-) anymore! The buttons on the radio are all FM stations now (except for WABC so I can catch Rush - that can easily be switched when he changes to WOR), and the FM station I listen too when I venture over the border into NJ fades out when I get back on my side of the mountain..

42 posted on 08/27/2013 12:50:44 AM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Leo Carpathian
It must be the antenna pattern then, going west of NYC signal of WOR starts disappearing half way through NJ, while WABC is solid

I think you are right. In my experience, WNBC/WFAN blows away botu, received WELL into PA. In other anomalies, i have received WBBM 780 Chicago into NJ even though WLS is the "famous" big station.
43 posted on 08/27/2013 3:46:25 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: AlexW

Sounds like a good idea. Especially since many talk show hosts, like Rush, do not permit free replay of their broadcasts. However, some, like Mark Levin, do permit listening to free re-broadcasts.


44 posted on 08/27/2013 4:17:00 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

I now have three programs being recorded by DAR.fm.
Rush, Savage, and Kook to Kook AM. I could do more, but I can listen to only so much radio. Anyway, any program that is being broadcast in the US can be set up on DAR. Keep in mind, your computer does not have to be online for it to work.
You log into DAR when you want to listen to your program.
I exchanged a few emails with the guy that started the service when it was new.
I try to promote his service whenever I can.
I want him to stay in business !!


45 posted on 08/27/2013 4:43:18 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Marcella; wku man; DuncanWaring; Windflier; AlexW

Rush never ran away...

Woof Woof!


46 posted on 08/27/2013 4:45:36 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: AlexW; NFHale; Marcella; DuncanWaring; Windflier
"...but I can listen to only so much radio."

Yeah, it must wear on the conscience to hear patriots like Rush and his listeners talk about what needs to be done to restore our Republic, while you're living the good life on a beach in a Third World sewer. Oh that's right...you don't have a conscience. You brag about having turned chicken a** and running away just when your nation needs you most. Bock-bock-bock-bock-BWAAAAAAAAAAAAK!

"Anyway, any program that is being broadcast in the US can be set up on DAR."

Gee, those of us who have stayed put, and are ready to do the heavy lifting to restore our Republic, don't need to program our computers to record Rush. We can tune to our local Rush affiliates, and listen to him live, on good ol' broadcast radio. Why? Because unlike you, we're not cowardly expats who have not only turned their backs on their nation, but are trying to convince others to do the same.

Coward.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

47 posted on 08/27/2013 5:27:35 AM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: NoCmpromiz

WBZ... I would drive back to NJ from Galesburg, IL, and I would be able to pick up WBZ near the OH/IN border.

I love the AM skip.


48 posted on 08/27/2013 6:26:45 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Gefn
"Hello, this is Bernard Meltzer, What's Your Problem?"

"Hi, Uncle Bernie. Thank you sooo much for taking my cawl..."

49 posted on 08/27/2013 6:32:14 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: bigbob
How Hannity gets anywhere near the top ratings is a mystery to me.

Same here. If he didn't come on right after Rush (and O'Reilly btw), he'd probably be more like number 20.

When Rush says he is show prep for the rest of the media, I think he is talking specifically about Hannity.

50 posted on 08/27/2013 6:35:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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