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Expert: Syria’s Supersonic Yakhont and Iskandar Missiles Deterring US Naval Attack
Fars News Agency ^ | 08/28/13 | Fars

Posted on 08/27/2013 3:52:58 PM PDT by mulder1

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To: clintonh8r
Today they said the objective is not regime change, so other than making the bully 0bama look like a tough guy, WTF is the objective?

To "punish" Assad for allegedly killing 'innocent' Syrian civilians, who, so I understand, were living in a staunchly pro-assad neighborhood of strategic importance to the "rebels", by killing more 'innocent' Syrian civilians, who are probably staunchly pro-Assad, who live in areas of strategic importance to the "rebels".

In this case, my enemy's enemy is still my enemy, so the best thing to do is sit back out of the way, relax, pop open a brewski, and fire up the popcorn popper.

51 posted on 08/27/2013 6:27:14 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It won’t be one ship, they will fire at everything. Loss of too many American lives for nothing.

This administration has so much unnecessary blood on its hands, it’s sad. These are our sons dying for tyrants for no real reason—except corporate profit!

Now we will be Al-Qaeda’s air force, fighting for the group that took responsibility for 9/11. I think our government is confused, or just a bunch of liars.


52 posted on 08/27/2013 7:23:04 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: SkyPilot
All this cheering on of war by chicken hawks like Sean Hannity...

Did you happen to catch Tuesday's O'Reilly Factor? O'Reilly said that America simply must strike Syria.

Then Col's Hunt and Peters came on and strongly disagreed with O'Reilly. The colonels were so firm and logical that I wouldn't be surprised if O'Reilly cans them both.

53 posted on 08/27/2013 7:31:37 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Octar
"Syria retaliates by sinking most of our ships. Obama only learned about it when he read the newspapers after his golf outing."

obama: Not to worry. We still have ships left and there's the Coast Guard.
54 posted on 08/27/2013 7:34:03 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: penelopesire

It’s not trusted. However, they seem to get tips and agenda points from the east, Russia and China. If we do get into it with the east, I am sure the Ponzi Scheme that is Saudi Arabia will be wiped off the map


55 posted on 08/27/2013 7:47:39 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: Kolath
The 9K720 Iskander/ SS-26 Stone is a Russian mobile theater ballistic missile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K720_Iskander

. The Russians sold these to Syria just as they sold them the Bastion defense system and the Yakhont missiles.

56 posted on 08/27/2013 8:32:37 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: mulder1
The P-800 Oniks, also known in export markets as Yakhont (in English means ruby or sapphire), is a Russian/Soviet supersonic anti-ship cruise missile developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya as a ramjet version of P-80 Zubr. The missile has a range of 300 kilometers.

The Tomahawk cruise missile has a range of 800 to 1550 miles. As long as our ships stay outside the range of the P-800, they are in no danger.

57 posted on 08/27/2013 9:37:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Leaning Right
I didn't see that, but I am not surprised. There are some on the right (O'Reilly, Hannity, etc) that blow with a lot of bluster on military issues, but know next to nothing about them. Furthermore, they have never known the burden of military command, and what it means to lead people in harms way.

Was it Lt Col Ralph Peters (ret) on the show?

He is a good man....from his toes to his scalp.

58 posted on 08/28/2013 5:52:25 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Gen.Blather

Were such a thing to happen, it would likely be done by a select group of semi-anonymous insiders, as a “rogue” operation, leaving no trail behind. As is often the case, they would be doing so for their own reasons as well as to bias the outcome of the big picture.

I can imagine such an operation with 3-5 people, both Americans and some reliable Syrians. They would need the following information (all supposition, I have no insider information):

1) Location of the target on a given day and time, with intel from the NGA (National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency) which is “open source” in the intelligence community. They could probably get “actuals” on distance, direction of travel and speed. Maybe even a satellite visual.

2) Location of stored weapons and a plan of how to steal them, transport to their firing point, set up and operate them. Also some distraction, like a car bomb, set off elsewhere.

3) Escape and evasion from Syrian response.


59 posted on 08/28/2013 5:56:55 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: SkyPilot
Was it Lt Col Ralph Peters (ret) on the show?

Yes, it was Lt Col Ralph Peters. He often appears on the show along with Col. Hunt. Sometimes they are the only adults on the show.

As an example of how clearly Peters thinks, here's part of Tuesday's conversation. I'm paraphrasing because I don't remember the exact words.

O'Reilly: We've got to support the rebels. It's like during World War II. We supported Stalin over Hitler because Hitler was worse.

Peters: No Bill, you're wrong. It's more like as if Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan got into a fight while they were both fighting us. Would we have come to the aid of either one of them? Of course not.

O'Reilly had no answer to that, so he just scowled and moved on to another topic.

60 posted on 08/28/2013 6:53:30 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Bobalu

If Tel Aviv is hit, Obama will sit on his hands. If Cyprus is hit, there isn’t a whole lot that Londonistan can do from a strategic standpoint, having gutted their military. They’ll fight back, but they don’t have the legs for any sort of protracted conflict in the ME without serious assistance from America.

Likewise, the USSR is staying out of this one, at least with respect to a nuclear missile attack on US military assets. While their SSM/ASM capability is worthy of caution, any carrier group is going to have ASW assets well outside the launch envelope of the SS-N-22 family of missiles. I’ll place my bet on the side of our air and ASW assets every single day of the week.

Likewise, the Soviet military is an underfunded shell of its former self. While it possesses a credible nuclear and strategic threat, it is sorely lacking in combat experience, basic combat preparedness and infrastructure... all communist blustering aside. They’re not about to start a nuclear conflict.

We should be more concerned with the fact that the Obamao administration has thrown many different forms of gasoline on the ME conflicts, and why.


61 posted on 08/28/2013 7:33:56 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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