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Hundreds of Tortoises to Be Snuffed Out by Their Saviors
Yahoo News ^ | August 27, 2013 | Anna Hess

Posted on 08/27/2013 5:30:07 PM PDT by kevcol

The sheltered existence of hundreds of desert tortoises will come to a sad and tragic end in early 2014.

A lack of funds at The Desert Tortoise Conservation Center, located outside Las Vegas, Nevada, will cause the sanctuary to close its doors and euthanize about half of its 1,400 tortoise residents, reports the Associated Press.

The facility was created in 1990 when the overdevelopment—namely McMansions, solar plants, and strip malls—of the turtles' native habitats caused the critters to be put on the endangered species list.

The center previously upheld a $1 million annual budget, mostly fueled by "raking in funds from fees imposed on real estate developers who chose to build on the tortoises' habitats," reports the AP. But the housing market collapse in 2008 caused that fund pipeline to dry up. And, as a result, The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) simply can't allocate any more money for another year.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: animalwelfare; housingmarket; obamacare; tortoises; turtles
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Who woulda guessed that Nevada had run out of vast empty deserts for these creatures to live?

$1million/yr govt funded facility:

1 posted on 08/27/2013 5:30:07 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

Soup’s on.


2 posted on 08/27/2013 5:32:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: kevcol

Insane


3 posted on 08/27/2013 5:32:07 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type)
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To: kevcol

Sounds like the abortion argument.

“If we can’t keep them, they must be killed.”


4 posted on 08/27/2013 5:33:22 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: kevcol

That’s a lot of tortoise soup .... I guess Harry Reid can have a few of his fellow lawyers and crony capitalists over for supper.


5 posted on 08/27/2013 5:33:49 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives are never accountable for "unintended consequences" .... just for causing most)
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To: kevcol

Why euthanize them — start turning them loose — and then go find a real job.


6 posted on 08/27/2013 5:33:53 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kevcol

For those unaware (most) the BLM claims that there is a disease spread by contact with the DTs. I once made a ranger blow a gasket asking him who these turtle touchers that searched endlessly running from one RARE (right) tortoise to another touching them inappropriately and giving them turtle herpes.

He was not amused. I laughed a lot. Many of us off roaders did.

THAT is why this favility exists. No joke.


7 posted on 08/27/2013 5:34:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: kevcol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf22Bhn5lZU


8 posted on 08/27/2013 5:37:12 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: patriot08

Desert tortoises are an endangered species. I fail to see why they have to euthanize half of their stock. Why can’t they simply release them?


9 posted on 08/27/2013 5:38:12 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: kevcol
The facility was created in 1990 when the overdevelopment—namely McMansions, solar plants, and strip malls—of the turtles' native habitats caused the critters to be put on the endangered species list.

And so their answer is to kill them? WTF?
10 posted on 08/27/2013 5:38:39 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kevcol
What a wonderful parable about the welfare state.

Trust us, we'll take care of you.

close its doors and euthanize about half of its 1,400 tortoise residents, reports the Associated Press.

11 posted on 08/27/2013 5:39:05 PM PDT by DManA
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To: patriot08
Insane indeed. These “conservation groups” collected this species wherever found, ditches, arroyos, construction sites etc, concentrating them in cages to “save them” from the vicissitudes of survival in the wild, and when the money runs dry... take them out and kill them. Liberals destroy everything they touch.
12 posted on 08/27/2013 5:39:17 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: kevcol

They are desert tortoises, right? They can survive in the desert, right? Oh wait - I guess they are now dependent on gov’t handouts and can’t survive on their own anymore. Wonder how many of them are registered rats and voted for Dingy Harry?.


13 posted on 08/27/2013 5:39:46 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: kevcol

Tortoises live in small, well-defined ranges. Remove them from that range and release them somewhere else and they will spend the rest of their lives trying to find their way back to their home range. Letting these poor critters go is probably a death sentence, too.


14 posted on 08/27/2013 5:39:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: SpaceBar
Why does this sound like a prelude to obamacare?
15 posted on 08/27/2013 5:40:33 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EinNYC

It says something about half of them being sickly or old. This story is less than clear, but the only thing I can think of is they were injured or recovering at this place?

Freegards


16 posted on 08/27/2013 5:42:14 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: EinNYC

“I fail to see why they have to euthanize half of their stock. Why can’t they simply release them?”

I think you missed the message. “If you don’t give us more funding, then we’ll kill the turtles.” It’s like saying, “If you don’t fund this (program, project, plan) then hundreds (thousands, millions) of CHILDREN will suffer and die.” (Not just die, but suffer and die.)


17 posted on 08/27/2013 5:43:01 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: kevcol

” mostly fueled by “raking in funds from fees imposed on real estate developers who chose to build on the tortoises’ habitats,”

So the solar farms are gone? Since these government approved rapists of the land, the solar and wind farms are still using the tortoises habitat let them pay for the facility. I find it incredible that the Eco Nazis go rabid over average Americans using the desert for recreation but it’s OK for “GREEN” businesses to rape the land and displace or destroy the wildlife.


18 posted on 08/27/2013 5:44:17 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Are the tortises nobama-minority and can’t survive on their own in the desert? DESERT tortises...DUH!


19 posted on 08/27/2013 5:45:22 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Why does this sound like a prelude to obamacare?

Hundreds of Tortoises elderly Obama voters to Be Snuffed Out by Their "Savior"
20 posted on 08/27/2013 5:45:41 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol
Related article

Government plans to euthanize hundreds of threatened desert tortoises it was supposed to protect


21 posted on 08/27/2013 5:48:45 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Uncle Chip

Once they are exposed to humans, they might get a bad disease.

Therefore they are ‘toxic’ and can’t go back into the wild.

(Suppressed mega-barfing)


22 posted on 08/27/2013 5:49:52 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Used to be a 20 THOUSAND dollar fine for picking one up.


23 posted on 08/27/2013 5:51:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Gen.Blather
I think you missed the message. “If you don’t give us more funding, then we’ll kill the turtles.” It’s like saying, “If you don’t fund this (program, project, plan) then hundreds (thousands, millions) of CHILDREN will suffer and die.” (Not just die, but suffer and die.)


24 posted on 08/27/2013 5:53:42 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: EinNYC

Why can’t they simply release them?

Could it be that they would be not endangered anymore and they could not be used as pawns by environmentalists?


25 posted on 08/27/2013 5:54:00 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: kevcol

Death Panels for Tortises

You're next, America.

26 posted on 08/27/2013 5:58:28 PM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: kevcol

So there is NOWHERE in the vast unpopulated west to turn them loose?


27 posted on 08/27/2013 6:00:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: kevcol

Start killing the Ravens in the desert and the Desert Tortoise might stand a chance.

As it is now, the damnable Migratory Species Act protects the black bastards and they’re responsible for the wholesale slaughter of the tortoises in my neck of the woods.

Envirowhacko created conundrums...stupid.


28 posted on 08/27/2013 6:02:01 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Why euthanize them — start turning them loose — and then go find a real job.

They sound like self-righteous libs who believe the turtles can't survive without their care and good intentions.

29 posted on 08/27/2013 6:02:16 PM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: hal ogen

Too used to government handouts to survive on their own.


30 posted on 08/27/2013 6:04:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: kevcol

Socialist Eco-cult melt down.

A familiar tragedy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfDE9bndfg&feature=player_detailpage


31 posted on 08/27/2013 6:05:00 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Blood of Tyrants

What will this mean for the end of food stamps?


32 posted on 08/27/2013 6:12:22 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: DManA
close its doors and euthanize about half

Just a little preview of CommieCare. All these programs work the same way.

33 posted on 08/27/2013 6:23:21 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: EinNYC

Someone in Ohio needs to contact Jack Hanna & show him this idiotic story.


34 posted on 08/27/2013 6:25:56 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Norm Lenhart

Tortoises commonly carry salmonella, so it’s possible to transfer the disease from an infected animal to one that isn’t.


35 posted on 08/27/2013 6:26:35 PM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

There was more to it. All of it having to do with power and money.

That particular dysfunction is easily cured, thus negating the need for million dollar dirt plots and the financial rape of businesses/land closure.


36 posted on 08/27/2013 6:30:35 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: kevcol
Have these fantabulous government workers even made an attempt to find them homes or contacted tortoise rescues?

Oh, wait .... that would require effort.

37 posted on 08/27/2013 6:31:03 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: opentalk

They look almost just like Florida Gopher Tortoises which were nearly wiped out during the depression.

Tortoises make good pets. I had a pet Gopher tortoise when I was a small boy. It only took two or three days to train him to come out of his hole by placing green peas still in their shell right outside his entrance. After leaving the peas you blow in the hole and pat the ground then leave.

About the fourth time you stay, The tortoise will blow at you and try to make a weak looking attack then in a couple more days you can pick him up and play with him.

When you are tired of playing with him you put him back in his hole. He will then always come out when you blow and pat tho you need to always have some food for him.

I painted my initials on mine and many years later would still see him.


38 posted on 08/27/2013 6:31:05 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

Just give the surplus away. They make good pets.


39 posted on 08/27/2013 6:32:23 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: kevcol
 photo 2092copy.jpg Florida Gopher Tortoise.
40 posted on 08/27/2013 6:35:48 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Red in Blue PA; All
"Why does this sound like a prelude to obamacare?"



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41 posted on 08/27/2013 6:37:50 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BenLurkin
Soup’s on.

Soup? Soup is part of the entree. The article clearly said these are dessert tortoises.

42 posted on 08/27/2013 6:39:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: jyro

Free turtle meat for food stamp recipients?


43 posted on 08/27/2013 6:55:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: kevcol
The tortoises have been kept in captivity for so long they're too confused to be released into the wild

 photo turtlelovesgrape_zpsa9a5141e.jpg

44 posted on 08/27/2013 7:08:34 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: kevcol

Back in the day, desert Turtles were pets of sorts. We had one “Touche” at our So Cal. Home in the mid to late 60’s. These suckers slow as they were could dig there way to freedom in no time, as did ours.


45 posted on 08/27/2013 7:08:49 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: kevcol

I had to take special training to deal with the possibility of meeting one of these things when I worked out at the Nevada Test Site. I knew guys who’d been there 20 years and had never seen one.

Is there anything the government can’t screw up? (No answer required)


46 posted on 08/27/2013 7:11:20 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DAC21

I have a friend that has a bunch of them legally. She has 1/3 of an acre and it is almost all a turtle preserve. They are very cool. She had 6 or 7 but recently there were babies so no clue how many she has now.
When I am there I go feed them for her.


47 posted on 08/27/2013 7:15:40 PM PDT by sheana
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To: kevcol

I feel a great disturbance in the Force.


48 posted on 08/27/2013 7:28:03 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: stormer
Tortoises commonly carry salmonella...

Works great on kitchen sinks and countertops too!

49 posted on 08/27/2013 7:33:50 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: yarddog

There are thousands of tortoise caregivers who would be thrilled to have one. Putting them in the hands of private citizens, however, means the gov no longer has control. They MUST control all wildlife because humans are too destructive to care for animals. The sickness that is at the heart of massive, intrusive government is the real disease. Everyone and everything will suffer endlessly until the rape and plunder of government authority is ended.


50 posted on 08/27/2013 7:37:35 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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