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Boehner: President Is in for ‘Whale of a Fight’ on Debt Limit
Roll Call ^ | 8-27-2013 | Matt Fuller

Posted on 08/28/2013 4:56:34 AM PDT by ClaytonP

Speaker John A. Boehner said Monday that President Barack Obama is in for a “whale of a fight” over the debt limit, with the GOP leader insisting on spending cuts greater than, not just equal to, the amount the debt ceiling is raised.

The Ohio Republican, speaking at a fundraising event for Idaho Republican Mike Simpson, said he has “made it clear that we’re not going to increase the debt limit without cuts and reforms that are greater than the increase in the debt limit,” according to the Idaho Statesman.

“The president doesn’t think this is fair, thinks I’m being difficult to deal with,” Boehner said. “But I’ll say this: It may be unfair, but what I’m trying to do here is to leverage the political process to produce more change than what it would produce if left to its own devices. We’re going to have a whale of a fight.”

On Tuesday, Boehner spokesman Michael Steel told CQ Roll Call that the speaker’s comments are “consistent with his long-stated position: Any increase in the debt limit must be accompanied by cuts and reforms greater than the increase.”

When pressed on Boehner’s comment that he would insist on cuts “greater than” the increase in the debt limit, Steel said, “the standard has always been, ‘equal to or greater than,’” signaling that the speaker was, perhaps, just short-handing his so-called Boehner rule — a dictum requiring “cuts and reforms equal to or greater than any increase in the debt ceiling.”

The White House, for its part, was also resolute on the matter Monday.

“Let me reiterate what our position is,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said. “And it is unequivocal: We will not negotiate with Republicans in Congress over Congress’ responsibility to pay the bills that Congress has racked up. Period.”

The Treasury Department announced Monday just as markets closed that, in mid-October, it would run out of the “extraordinary measures” that have funded the government since it hit its statutory debt limit in May.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: boehner; crybaby; debtlimit; johnboehner; ohio; randsconcerntrolls; theweeper
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1 posted on 08/28/2013 4:56:34 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

so says the beached whale


2 posted on 08/28/2013 4:57:54 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: dontreadthis

Beat me to it


3 posted on 08/28/2013 4:58:15 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: ClaytonP

Boehner is a Democrat, and this is hot air.

Boehner SUPPORTS ObamaCARE and Obama and open borders
and weaponizing of al Qaeda.
Like the other RINOs, they support the
treason EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY ARE IS IN POWER.


4 posted on 08/28/2013 5:00:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: ClaytonP

Boehner = Call him Ishmael


5 posted on 08/28/2013 5:02:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: ClaytonP

File this under “Humor.”


6 posted on 08/28/2013 5:04:47 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: ClaytonP

Blah, blah, blah, whaa, whaa, whaa.


7 posted on 08/28/2013 5:06:35 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: ClaytonP

In Boehner’s parlance, a “whale of a fight” = lots of tears and hand-wringing, followed by a “deal” that benefits no one but Obama.

We’re wise to your posturing, Boehner, so STFU.


8 posted on 08/28/2013 5:07:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: dontreadthis

Just talking to hear himself talk.

He will fold up like a cheap step ladder.


9 posted on 08/28/2013 5:08:01 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Peter W. Kessler
File this under “Humor.”

How many times before have we heard such shi-ite bravado from this crying clown ... only to be let down?

10 posted on 08/28/2013 5:09:15 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: ClaytonP

These supposed debt-limit fights couldn’t be more phony. Congress should be cancelling unnecessary programs, not approving new boondoggles, and not appropriating funds at nearly the level they do.

Battling about the debt numbers, which are rigged anyway, is just a setup to supposedly cow the GOP into legislating less conservatively.

Unfunding Obamacare and acting only to assure current immigration laws are being enforced should be the two big items on Congress’s agenda.


11 posted on 08/28/2013 5:09:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ClaytonP; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...
Bohner appears to be saying this to get a budget passed out of house that Senate will accept (I assume he will use Dem votes to pass it) to avoid a shutdown.

The problem with his claim here is that Obama already has claimed that he will not negotiate at all over the Debt limit. And so the debt limit was expanded early this year by House without a fuss. So what has changed?

And exactly what cuts is Bohner talking about anyway.

12 posted on 08/28/2013 5:14:03 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: ClaytonP
...what I’m trying to do here is to leverage the political process to produce more change than what it would produce if left to its own devices.

Puke...what a bunch of Beltway Blather.

More like a minnow talking like that.

13 posted on 08/28/2013 5:14:15 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ClaytonP
This is how the big government trained elites have rammed through all of their agenda folks for decades, by blackmail and a gun to the head by putting the entire budget in one pot and threatening a shutdown if Congress holds the purse on anything.

Ask yourself...Why did the Republicans not change this procedure by now?

The Purse is what gives the people's house power and keeps balance in the Republic. Answer..the GOP-e supports a dictatorship that makes 'WE THE PEOPLE' irrelevant.

14 posted on 08/28/2013 5:14:52 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: ClaytonP

We have too much debt. No more debt limit increases. Live on your cash flow, like the rest of us.


15 posted on 08/28/2013 5:18:57 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: ClaytonP
Right, John... “The Doozy in DC” I'm sure it'll be.
16 posted on 08/28/2013 5:21:54 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: ClaytonP

Howsabout we just don’t INCREASE the damn limit?

Oh—it’s Boner, I keep forgetting.


17 posted on 08/28/2013 5:22:24 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: ClaytonP
Boehner: President Is in for ‘Whale of a Fight'

Because Boehner will start blubbering?

18 posted on 08/28/2013 5:22:29 AM PDT by wbill
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RE :“Let me reiterate what our position is,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said. “And it is unequivocal: We will not negotiate with Republicans in Congress over Congress’ responsibility to pay the bills that Congress has racked up. Period.”

Of course if they dont pass a new budget or CR (by Oct 1) then that argument is moot. (Debt limit T0 ~ mid Oct)

Obama is demanding that they spend MORE $$$$ by passing a CR with O-care AND at the same time that they pay the bills for it claiming its past authorized spending, which only the emergency critical services exempt from a shutdown would be in a shutdown.

Example :Obama-care . The Dem congress 2010 passed that.
Its exempt from shutdown. So assuming a delayed CR then Obama claims that this congress has to pay the bills for Obama-care because it authorized that spending.

19 posted on 08/28/2013 5:22:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Venturer
He will fold up like a cheap step ladder

At least a cheap stepladder would be useful.

20 posted on 08/28/2013 5:23:08 AM PDT by wbill
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To: ClaytonP
Boehner: President Is in for ‘Whale of a Fight’ on Debt Limit

Your fights are like wrestling on tv...FAKE with a predetermined & obvious outcome.

21 posted on 08/28/2013 5:26:24 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: ClaytonP

Oh c’mon—cry a little tear for me, Johnnie


22 posted on 08/28/2013 5:26:32 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: dontreadthis
Right on.

Boehner will cave so quickly it'll set new land speed records.

23 posted on 08/28/2013 5:27:01 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ClaytonP

one word: MALE BOVINE EXCREMENT


24 posted on 08/28/2013 5:29:33 AM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: ClaytonP

yeah I bet he’s wee wee scawed Boner shaking in his booties


25 posted on 08/28/2013 5:30:12 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: usconservative

If boehner is serious, the CR will have to ELIMINATE at least on Cabinet level department. Energy, Education, Interior or HUD. A few agencies need to go, to, like the endowments.


26 posted on 08/28/2013 5:32:30 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: ClaytonP

I know it’s probably too much to ask, but just once in my life I wish the GOP would tell Obama to go F himself.


27 posted on 08/28/2013 5:33:32 AM PDT by Marathoner (Sarah Palin is our Esther, for such a time as this)
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To: wbill

Lol


28 posted on 08/28/2013 5:34:53 AM PDT by digger48
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To: ClaytonP

“Let me reiterate what our position is,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said. “And it is unequivocal: We will not negotiate with Republicans in Congress over Congress’ responsibility to pay the bills that Congress has racked up. Period.”

Red Herring!

...and nothing to do with the subject in question.

So what’s new?


29 posted on 08/28/2013 5:45:17 AM PDT by wita
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To: ClaytonP

Whale of a fight equates to farting in the dems general direction...


30 posted on 08/28/2013 5:54:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ClaytonP

Recall Boner as the Speaker! Now!


31 posted on 08/28/2013 6:00:38 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: central_va

32 posted on 08/28/2013 6:01:24 AM PDT by o2bfree (Lindsey Graham is left of South Carolina.)
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To: ClaytonP

A whale of a fight before they cave in.


33 posted on 08/28/2013 6:06:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ClaytonP

A whale of a fight??!! I’d laugh if it wasn’t so damned sad!


34 posted on 08/28/2013 6:07:36 AM PDT by pgkdan (Marco Rubio can go straight to hell!)
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To: dontreadthis

35 posted on 08/28/2013 6:11:49 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: ClaytonP

Yeah right, Boehner, you pussy.


36 posted on 08/28/2013 6:20:32 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: ClaytonP
Bwaaaaa ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa!!!!

Hoooooo, that John Boehner. What a card. Who writes his stuff? Oh, my aching sides.

37 posted on 08/28/2013 6:22:13 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ClaytonP

Haven’t we been here before with Boner? Pose...fold. Pose...fold. Pose...fold. (repeat forever)


38 posted on 08/28/2013 6:26:17 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ClaytonP

“whale of a fight”


FIGHT!

The “boner” might cry a lot but FIGHT? No way.

He is a good Republican obeying the call of the Republican wimps to go along to get along.


39 posted on 08/28/2013 6:29:20 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: ClaytonP

LMAO!

Shut up, John Boy.


40 posted on 08/28/2013 6:30:15 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ClaytonP

“Boehner: President Is in for ‘Whale of a Fight’ on Debt Limit”

That’s a good one, Johnny Boy. You’re a real joker, aren’t you?

The truth of the matter is this guy always backs down. He says he’s going to fight and die on the next hill. When he gets there, he changes his mind and starts looking for the next hill.

Another object lesson that we should never equate Republican with conservative.


41 posted on 08/28/2013 6:32:54 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ClaytonP
Boehner says Obama is in for a whale of a fight.

And Obama is the Japanese whaling fleet in this fight.

Boehner, you are just saying this to tell the Republicans to not fight over defunding Obamacare in the FY 2014 budget, but that the big battle will come soon. Then when it comes time for the debt limit battle Boehner will once again sound the retreat so we can prepare the big fight over the FY 2015 budget. Then when the FY 2015 budget comes up, we can instead fight over an upcoming debt limit increase, then...

42 posted on 08/28/2013 6:35:49 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: ClaytonP

Boehner doing what he does best... BLOWING to the GALLERIES.


43 posted on 08/28/2013 6:50:38 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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“But I’ll say this: It may be unfair, but what I’m trying to do here is to leverage the political process to produce more change than what it would produce if left to its own devices. We’re going to have a whale of a fight.”

Idiot.

44 posted on 08/28/2013 6:59:06 AM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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To: ClaytonP

Is this like one of those movie fights where the man and woman cuss at each other for a few sentences and then suddenly launch into intense love-making?


45 posted on 08/28/2013 8:13:19 AM PDT by lurk
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To: ClaytonP

Based on his history, I think the House Boner actually said: “whale of a flight”


46 posted on 08/28/2013 8:15:55 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: sickoflibs; ClaytonP; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; ...

” And exactly what cuts is Bohner talking about anyway. “

Not his scotch budget.


47 posted on 08/28/2013 10:09:16 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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” Example :Obama-care . The Dem congress 2010 passed that.
Its exempt from shutdown. So assuming a delayed CR then Obama claims that this congress has to pay the bills for Obama-care because it authorized that spending. “

And the beat goes on.


48 posted on 08/28/2013 10:13:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: ClaytonP

Boy that something we have no heard before.

But the end result will be something we have seen before though, surrender.

I wonder if he will cry?

After he became Speaker of the House he was full of promises, but once again they were nothing but lies, lies and more lies.


49 posted on 08/28/2013 3:07:36 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: ClaytonP

Someone tell Boner that he’s not fooling anyone.


50 posted on 08/28/2013 3:59:33 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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