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To: JRandomFreeper

The best part is this opinion piece reads like a GOP memo. I see many familiar arguments.

I love Cruz, But he’s gotta get this straight at the Supreme level. If not, it’s going to get ugly.


13 posted on 08/29/2013 6:50:45 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart; JRandomFreeper
The best part is this opinion piece reads like a GOP memo. I see many familiar arguments.
I love Cruz, But he’s gotta get this straight at the Supreme level. If not, it’s going to get ugly.

Well, I'm unsure that such is a good idea ("get[ting] this straight at the Supreme level") — we've seen just how far the USSC is willing to go to rationalize federal overreach/unlawful-dictates, which is not a new problem: Wickard, Raich, Kelo, ACA, and Schenck pop immediately to mind.

I am convinced that the Obama/McCain race was put forward to weaken the Constitution's mandate for natural born citizenry, and am suspicious that the Romney/McCain was more of the same.* — I'm not saying that Cruz is ineligible, as I believe that NBC is about the parents [both of them] rather than the location, which the 14th amendment conflates with its clause about birth. It is from the route of the 14th Amendment that I see how the courts could do (and do) much damage to the Constitution: just look at the magic of incorporation and how something that specifically constrains the congress is held binding on the States via the magic of incorporation! (Rather than simply applying the text as-is.)

That's why I am leery of the whole thing.


* Also, do you want to bet that after Obama's term was over and the new guy installed, that he would have come out as being born in Kenya and the new-guy [Romney] would issue a Pardon?

35 posted on 08/29/2013 7:30:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
As Freepers we have to accept the fact that we can not conclusively decide this issue; it is clearly Constitutional derived, making it tge singular responsibility of the U.S. Supreme Court. Now, having said that, my memory is not so faint as to recall all the ‘no standing’ dismissals with Obummer. Before he was nominated by the Democratic Convention, the courts ran away from the issue by saying the issue was not ripe because Obummer was not yet a presidential candidate. Then after he was nominated, the courts dismissed again saying he was not yet elected president so the issue was still moot. Then after he was elected, the courts said they didn't need to decide the issue because he had been publicly fully vetted and it was too late to get involved. The sum of this is that government officials no longer abide by laws any longer, it is whatever they can get away with that matters. As a side note, Obummer is now saying he alone is going to ‘edict away’ our Second Amendment rights. While we can not decide the eligibility issue, the Courts, whose job it is to decide, continue to flatly refuse to do their job. This is the treachery of having to live every day under tyranny.
41 posted on 08/29/2013 7:35:37 AM PDT by iontheball
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