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Obama issues new executive orders against guns (While looking at Syria.....)
The Washington Times ^ | August 29, 2013 | Dave Boyer

Posted on 08/29/2013 12:24:19 PM PDT by yoe

President Obama ordered two more executive actions Thursday to restrict guns, banning the re-importation of military surplus firearms to private entities and proposing a regulation that would close a loophole in background checks.

On the day B. Todd Jones is being sworn in as the new director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the White House said the ATF is proposing to conduct background checks on firearms registered to a trust or corporation. The administration said felons and others prohibited from having firearms currently are able to avoid background checks by choosing this route.

[snip] The orders follow 23 other executive actions on gun control that the White House unveiled in January. In the spring, the Democratic-controlled Senate rejected a proposal to require expanded background checks for gun purchases.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: banglist; executiveorder; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: ez

I would never vote for a Republican president. None of them are pure enough for me.

After all, better to let the country crash and be morally pure than to save the country for my children by compromising.

/sarc


21 posted on 08/29/2013 12:52:48 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Kip Russell
I feel so much safer now, knowing that gangs won’t be arming themselves with M1 Garands...

...banning the re-importation of military surplus firearms to private entities

I don't know - the CMP's Garands are re-imported by the US Army - hardly a private entity.

22 posted on 08/29/2013 12:53:41 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Kip Russell

Although Garands are nice, there are better weapons now becoming available with the use of new printing technology.

And since we are talking about weapons that are not registered, one can get some very nice weapons indeed. Fully automatic grenade cannons that home in on evil and use lasers to correct for range!

Since the IRS and NSA don’t obey the law, then I am not required to either.

Of course, it would be nice if the fed gov would follow their laws, and then I would once again feel bound to obey the various constitutional laws.


23 posted on 08/29/2013 12:57:43 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

Exactly...I liked Mitt BUT...I like Ron Paul but...I like Cruz but...


24 posted on 08/29/2013 12:59:06 PM PDT by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco and John Pistole.)
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Only Three Days Until
September.

Please donate today!!

25 posted on 08/29/2013 1:04:39 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: donmeaker

If you don’t register an NFA wesapon, they go after you on Tax Evasion charges. The transfer tax is $200 per gun, per transfer.


26 posted on 08/29/2013 1:12:38 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: 2harddrive

They say I can’t make and own new NFA weapons anyways, so since I can’t legally do it, I can’t legally pay tax on it.


27 posted on 08/29/2013 1:14:43 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: yoe; miserare; donmeaker; fhayek; Kip Russell; FlingWingFlyer

“the administration said it will deny requests to bring military-grade firearms back into the U.S. to private entities,”

So now the country is safe from technologies of 110 year old ’03 Springfields and 75 year old Garands.


28 posted on 08/29/2013 1:19:11 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: 2harddrive

See, I didn’t register a NFA weapon.

Most likely, neither have you. Few people own them.

So most of us have not paid tax on transfer of NFA weapons.

That is not in doubt. Let us stipulate that.

Now, there is another element of the ‘crime’ of not paying tax on a transfer of a NFA weapon. They have to prove that one has created or transfered such a weapon.

They can do that with any of us with false testimony.

So we are all just waiting for the corrupt government to take us in. Our question is: Are they corrupt enough to go after me today?

And we will never know until it is too late.


29 posted on 08/29/2013 1:20:57 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: yoe

Now that he will curb corporate gun violence, the streets of Atlanta will be safe once again!


30 posted on 08/29/2013 1:24:28 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Vendome
“...the ATF is proposing to conduct background checks on firearms registered to a trust or corporation. The administration said felons and others prohibited from having firearms currently are able to avoid background checks by choosing this route.”

that's got to be at least .0001% of the population.about the same % of carry permit holders committing felonies with guns.

31 posted on 08/29/2013 1:24:59 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: yoe

This is beyond stupid. The NFA crowd is THE most law abiding group out there. Not to mention the ridiculous NINE MONTH wait right now to get a stamp back. Wonder what they’re going to do for stamps that are in process...


32 posted on 08/29/2013 2:09:39 PM PDT by Cacique500
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To: 2harddrive

If you don’t register an NFA wesapon, they go after you on Tax Evasion charges.


Not exactly.

If you possess an unregistered NFA weapon, they go after you for the crime of possessing an unregistered NFA weapon, which has a 10 year prison term associated with it.


33 posted on 08/29/2013 3:23:59 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: yoe

He wants to leave us high and dry, so IF there is a crisis he and his homies can swoop in a take everything.


34 posted on 08/29/2013 3:48:32 PM PDT by madison10
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To: yoe

He is arming our enemies and disarming the American people.


35 posted on 08/29/2013 4:52:30 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: yoe

36 posted on 08/29/2013 4:56:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: yoe

The full auto and short barreled tools are readily available at the appropriate time of our choosing from one’s local police department, free — where no tax or trust or sign off was done for “the only ones” in law enforcement either. The successful raids on police armories by public enemies in the 1930s should come to mind.


37 posted on 08/29/2013 5:38:55 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: yoe

Interesting that health care is a right that we have to be forced to buy, but owning a firearm is a right that is being taken away from us bit by bit.


38 posted on 08/29/2013 8:43:00 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kip Russell

does this mean guns like the Mosin, British enfields and all bolt action rifles that were used by military will be banned as well?
Good thing I own them....


39 posted on 08/30/2013 4:59:31 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Yorlik803

I’m pretty sure that this EO only applies to surplus firearms that were initially manufactured in the US, then given to other countries. It shouldn’t apply to the vast majority of surplus firearms imports. Of course, most of those have dried up by 2013 anyway...

In practical terms, this will prevent about 250,000 M1 Garands and Carbines from being imported from South Korea.


40 posted on 08/30/2013 7:12:58 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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