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David Cameron loses Syria vote in Commons
BBC ^ | 29.08.13 | BBC

Posted on 08/29/2013 2:39:52 PM PDT by Zajko

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To: kabar; babygene
The only other face-saving measure would be a vote in Congress so Congress can make the decision for him

Bingo. They (and his "coalition" backing out) are going to give him the perfect excuse to do nothing. And what other countries press do isn't a big deal.
Our press will be the same bunch of sycophants they have always been. Do you really think they are going to give him the Republican treatment? You think Chris Matthews and the rest are going to do anything but gush about his intelligence, wisdom, and leadership?
Bill Clinton bombed the crap out of Serbia on the weekend he was going to be impeached and all the press could do was gush "Wow, what an amazing coincidence that this country needing bombing on the same weekend the first black president was facing impeachment". And he wasn't even really black.

101 posted on 08/30/2013 8:26:18 AM PDT by techcor (leas)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
What evidence is there that Assad is involved?

I think you may have misunderstood me. I'm not saying whether Obama should or even shouldn't bomb. I'm saying the American press has his back covered no matter what.
I guess I'm tired or reading on FR where people think whatever Obama is doing will cost him support. Never underestimate the stupidity of his supporters especially the press.
For the record I'm against getting involved. Neither side is worth supporting.

102 posted on 08/30/2013 8:32:30 AM PDT by techcor (leas)
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To: UKrepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy

It would be interesting to see a breakdown to the UK parliament by party: how many Conservative, Labour, and Lib Dem MPs voted to take action in Syria?


103 posted on 08/30/2013 12:10:46 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: Zajko

There is doubt Assad was behind the chemical attack.


104 posted on 08/30/2013 1:04:49 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: BillyBoy; UKrepublican

I can find the results of the vote (called a “division”) but it’s not broken down by party

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmhansrd/cm130829/debtext/130829-0004.htm#13082928001473

Division # 70.

I don’t know if there are any third party websites out there with that information.

I tell you I like the US House website a lot better. ;)


105 posted on 08/30/2013 2:03:40 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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106 posted on 08/30/2013 2:05:49 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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107 posted on 08/30/2013 2:09:37 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: BillyBoy; UKConservative; GeronL; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican

I found a list of the Tories and Lib dems that voted no. I am assuming all the opposition MPs that were present voted no.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23894152

They literally “divide” ie go to opposite sides of the chamber to vote.

2 people voted on both the aye and nay sides which apparently is how they vote “present” over there. That would have been too much work for Barack Obama in the Illinois Senate.

I found a list of the Tories and Lib dems that voted no. I am assuming all the opposition MPs that were present voted no.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23894152

They literally


108 posted on 08/30/2013 2:21:14 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: UKrepublican

Oops, I meant to ping you to post #108, not “Ukconservative”. ;d


109 posted on 08/30/2013 2:25:38 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: tennmountainman

The scary answer to that is some Republicans may actually SUPPORT the President in this....


110 posted on 08/30/2013 2:27:25 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Yep. And that is the real real reason Waldo Boehner does not want to have
a vote in the house. He does not want to expose the RINO’s by putting their vote on record!

Where in the world is Waldo Boehner?


111 posted on 08/30/2013 2:38:58 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman
Where in the world is Waldo Boehner?

Where ever he is, he's drunk.

112 posted on 08/30/2013 3:27:59 PM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Scooter100
Where ever he is, he's drunk.

"I'll drink to that."

113 posted on 08/30/2013 3:30:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; conservaterian
Sir Francis Dashwood
I would trust Bashar al Assad more than I would trust John Kerry.

To: conservaterian
What “conservative cause” would that be defending the traitor John Kerry?

Sir Frances, I agree with you 100%. I don't trust ANYONE in the "gubmint" under the socialist muslim RAT bastard traitor 0dumb0, or his fellow RAT bastard traitors, the media & the socialist fascist democRAT party.

Likewise I support Putin head & shoulders over anyone in our regime, especially against 0dumb0. Go Putin! I would love to see Putin kick 0dumb0's skinny kenyan ass from one side of a room to the other.

114 posted on 08/30/2013 8:54:50 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

Ya know this is going a little too far. Obama is our worst president ever and I can’t stand Kerry, but if you guys are going to support Putin and Assad over our own country just because we have an asshole administration then I’m going to have to look closer at the word “traitor”. I want what is right for AMERICA and though Obama certainly isn’t it I can guarantee you that Putin and Assad ain’t it either. FDR was horrible for this country with all of his socialist programs, but would you have supported Hitler and Mussolini because you didn’t like FDR? Anyone who comes out and supports Putin and Assad over our own country is doing nothing but make Conservatives look like rabid idiots.


115 posted on 08/31/2013 4:09:42 AM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but noooo, if we do that the libs will win !)
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To: conservaterian

http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-rebels-admit-gas-attack-result-of-mishandling-chemical-weapons

Posted this morning on the live thread.


116 posted on 08/31/2013 4:14:08 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: conservaterian

The asshole administration of 0dumb0, Kerry, et al, is destroying our country every day. Putin is more Christian & moral & freedom loving than our own country’s administration which is becoming a communist country under 0dumb0. He & the RAT bastard democRAT party are the traitors, and Yes, I support Putin & Russia in a heartbeat over our country led by 0dumb0. You think I want to put my life on the line, or that of our military to support our country led by RAT bastard traitors like 0dumb0? I wish & pray to God that our military would rise up against the murdering, traiterous bastard 0dumb0! We need two counties, one a liberal socialist country and a conservative, patriotic country....and never allow any liberals to migrate from their hellhole country to the conservative one.


117 posted on 08/31/2013 5:18:20 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

Americans supporting RUSSIA over their own country :-(

The world is turned upside down!


118 posted on 08/31/2013 6:37:19 AM PDT by Jack_Reed
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To: rcrngroup
Putin is more Christian & moral & freedom loving than our own country’s administration which is becoming a communist country under 0dumb0. He & the RAT bastard democRAT party are the traitors, and Yes, I support Putin & Russia in a heartbeat over our country led by 0dumb0. If you truly believe this then, you sir, are a traitor to our Constitution and our country. Try living in Russia for a while (I spent several months there on business btw) and see how moral and freedom loving you think Putin is.
119 posted on 08/31/2013 7:30:06 AM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but noooo, if we do that the libs will win !)
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To: conservaterian; Jack_Reed
We no longer have America, home of the brave, land of the free & one nation under God. Instead we have a RAT bastard commie muzlim pig, who is doing everything he can to destroy our country. I will never support 0dumb0 under any circumstances. He is an anti-American, and I fail to see how anyone can stand up for or support that commie muzlim pig.

You are saying that you would support & follow 0dumb0 as he plunges our country into economic & political abyss & moral decay & decadence, and sacrifices our own soldiers to satisfy his own narcissistic, demonic pettiness? 0dumb0 loves to order our troops around & sacrifice them & see them killed, like they are his own private militia. I think it's time to fight back against the real enemy of USSA Amerika, which is 0dumb0 & the socialist democRAT party. I will be damned before I put my life on the line for that RAT bastard commie muzlim pig 0dumb0.

I will take Putin over 0dumb0 any day of the week. At least Putin is an ardent nationalist and believes in his own country. Just for once in my lifetime, I wish that we could have an American president who is an ardent, conservative, patriotic, Christian leader. Instead we got the anti-American, anti-Christ, 0dumb0! It is time for the STHTF!

120 posted on 08/31/2013 1:30:51 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: conservaterian

well said.


121 posted on 09/01/2013 7:58:22 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: conservaterian
I can guarantee you that Putin and Assad ain’t it either.

Neither is Al-Qaeda.

122 posted on 09/01/2013 8:01:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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