Skip to comments.David Cameron loses Syria vote in Commons
Posted on 08/29/2013 2:39:52 PM PDT by Zajko
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Congress is in hiding. The last thing in the world they want is to have to go on record for one side or the other. It’s one of the few things you could easily round up 430 votes for.
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Does the guy sitting in the back of the room slouch? Because if he does, he's definitely getting a good belly laugh out of it. That's one time Obastard is going to regret shooting his mouth off.
The Community “Organizer” in Chief wouldn’t be able to organize a weenie roast.
Putin has been on point lately. I hardly think we are seeing a softer, gentler Putin. Instead we are seeing Putin stick it to Obama at every oppirtunity.
There was a time when our only friend in the Middle East was Israel. The other nations were aligned with the USSR. Obama has managed to realign the Middle East in a way that is reminescent of those times. The world was a much more dangerous place, the days of Mutual Assured Destruction
Obama has given the Russians a one up as far as nuclear weapons go. He dissed our oldest ally, Poland, and recently cancelled the final stage of a European missile defense system. A move which made the Russians do a happy dance, I might add.
Obama has not just made a mess of the Middle East. This has gone beyond the Arab Spring or keeping Islamic terrorism at bay.
This has global implications. If he does stumble us into WWIII, God help us all.
If it were ever put up for a vote in Congress, it would also be close. I bet the majority of Reps support some sort of military action.
John Donne said: "No Man Is An Island"
Obama figured it didn't apply to arrogant poofters like him.
I am happy to see this.
Obama is made to look like a fool again on the world stage
He has a ready and waiting sycophant press with press stories of how great his statesmanship was. How he was able to resist the drum beat of war, didn't fall into the mistake the former president Bush did, etc. etc. The press will do interviews with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to prove it.
Someone will nominate him for another Nobel Peace Prize.
And it doesn't matter if Assad gasses 100,000 rebels.
Congress, which in our system represents the sovereign (us), has abdicated or given over its powers to the other branches of the government, beginning in 1913 and winding up some time in the past few years.
Congress is now a strictly ceremonial body, going through the motions of a representative republic, but having surrendered the substance.
In 1941, the Congress said the following: "the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan..."
Boehner's pathetic bleating about Congress being "advised" or "consulted" has it completely backwards. Of course, if Congress WERE consulted there is about as much chance that they would vote DOWN a war resolution as there is that Elizabeth II would refuse the royal warrant.
Congress is an empty shell. And it is OUR power and OUR sovereignty that is thereby overthrown.
I’m no expert on the (unwritten) British constitution, but I thought that ANY government motion that involved “grave matters” (and asking the sovereign to send in the Forces is such a matter) was, by definition, also a confidence vote.
After all, if the government wants to go to war and the House does not, in what way can that government be said to retain the confidence of the House?
We do, albeit a looser form than the US.
Odummer all by his lonesome. Awwww.
The only other face-saving measure would be a vote in Congress so Congress can make the decision for him. 9% of the American public supports military action.
Britain - a real democracy at work !
That’s a brilliant example of a picture being worth a thousand words.
Nothing angers me more than the passive attitude of our current congress!! GOD HELP US... THEY ARE MORONS.
I am a descendent of Abraham Clark, one of the signers of The Declaration of Independence and I am ashamed of my country!!
I don’t like these “allies” not siding with us. Are we going to have to go at it with just the French at our backs? Our troops deserve more respect. Guess we can call them French Fries again but start with Freedom Muffins.
It is intentional. My Senator, Corker supports this bombing nonsense.
But I bet he is too coward to put his support on record with a vote.
IMO the British go this one right. We have no business joining the Syrian fight on either side. This is a no win situation. Let them fight it out amongst themselves.
Asking congress may be the only way for Obama to back down without losing face. Man, he is such a frigging retard.
Nobody wants to get involved in Hussein’s war to install his Muslim Brotherhood..
Looks like the UK is breaking up with us.
Or passed out in the 19th Hole.
UK hasn’t been our ally since the Churchill bust was insultingly returned. Thanks, Obama.
That said, the UK parliament voted correctly. It has more integrity than our Congress, much like the UK press does to our MSM. Maybe the Queen will take us back????
“And it doesn’t matter if Assad gasses 100,000 rebels.”
It certainly doesn’t matter to me...
Cameron didn’t lose the vote. Obama did. No nation in the world wants to be associated with the incompetence coming out of this White House.
he only lost by 13 votes. interesting
You mean James VII?
Could he have done it anyway? and gotten removed I guess
It is scary that it was so close
I disagree. I say blast em, all of em. Or....do we just wait till this present undeterred gas warfare explodes in the USA?
INACTION AFTER THE USS COLE BROUGHT US 9/11
INACTION AFTER BENGAZI AND GAS-IN-SYRIA WILL BRING U.S. ....
Difficult to say for sure, as the UK doesn’t have a written constitution.
However, with military intervention in Syria being deeply unpopular in the UK, it would’ve been a big risk, with an election likely 12-18 months away there. In a way this result suits Cameron - he doesn’t have to get involved in Syria, but he can hold his hands up to Obama and say ‘I did my best, sorry...’
Yes, that seems perfect for him.
I'd like to think they're letting him twist in the wind for a bit. If they act to shut him down, it does give him some cover. As far as what they're waiting for, I don't know, a spine maybe? Hell, maybe the Brits just gave Congress some cover with their 'no' vote. Maybe they'll use it. Maybe pigs will fly. Maybe, well.......
The "Magic Negro" stands alone. Who ever is pulling his strings will whisper that a real man goes it alone and his ego (and support for the rebel terrorists) will allow him to flail at them anyway.
The only purpose of Labour is to assure Britain’s enemies they will be comfortable after the demise of the British people.
The only purpose of Liberal Democrats is to convince the public they can lift that same turd by the other clean end.
The only purpose of Cameron’s coalition is to hope the previous two are successful while keeping their own hands clean.
UKIP is all about getting out a shovel and cleaning up the yard.
Nonsense, there is no evidence Assad is involved in this.
We have chemical warfare against Americans coming across the border with the narcoterrorist drug trade.
And IF Syrian Pest Control is gassing a few Salafist cockroaches, how is this a problem?
I would trust Bashar al Assad more than I would trust John Kerry.
What evidence is there that Assad is involved?
And, even if his pest control service is spraying for Salafist cockroaches, how is this a problem?
What “bro-hood thugs” on his side? The emperior has NO NEW CLOTHES!
True friends tell you what they think, not what they think you want to hear.
I would strongly advise having a go with just the French on side, even if they do have more skin in this than anyone else (Syria being a former French colony). Foreign affairs 101 is quite clear. NEVER trust the French. It always ends badly.
Not really. Most people voted for him and the unity of the conservative party, not for what he was proposing. Take it from me, a great many of that 272 were very unhappy in saying “yea”.
The real story behind Syria is that we are backing the rebels because we want to diminish Chinese and Russian influence in the area and they are propping up the Assad regime. The significance of this gas attack is that it looked like a great opportunity to take stronger action, in spite of all the hand wringing by Western politicians.
Attacking Syria is all about Geopolitics, not gas.
What “conservative cause” would that be defending the traitor John Kerry?
Hope he loses every vote.