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Reid, McConnell Mum on Syria as Rand Paul Calls for Debate
RollCall ^ | Aug 28 2013 | Meredith Shiner

Posted on 08/29/2013 8:13:17 PM PDT by WilliamIII

Senate leaders Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., have not yet weighed in on whether they believe Congress should have to debate and authorize military action in Syria before President Barack Obama can move forward with it.

Reid’s office says the Nevada Democrat has been briefed by the administration, “but that’s all we have to say right now.” McConnell has not yet released a statement and his office would not say whether or when he might.

Reid voted to authorize both the Gulf War and the Iraq War. In 1991, only 10 out of 55 Senate Democrats voted to support the use of military force in Kuwait. McConnell is in a difficult spot because while he has traditionally supported military engagement, he now has to consider the positions of anti-war libertarian Rand Paul of Kentucky, whose continued support is essential to maintaining the conservative vote back home for his re-election in 2014.

On Wednesday, Paul released a statement urging congressional debate and emphasizing Congress’ role in declaring war.

“The United States should condemn the use of chemical weapons. We should ascertain who used the weapons and we should have an open debate in Congress over whether the situation warrants U.S. involvement. The Constitution grants the power to declare war to Congress not the President,” Paul said.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.rollcall.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Syria; US: Kentucky; US: Nevada; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; genocide; harryreid; iran; kentucky; lundergangrimes; mattbevin; mcconnell; mitchmcconnell; nevada; obamasyriaattack; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; reid; syria; syrialive; threatmatrix; waronterror

1 posted on 08/29/2013 8:13:17 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII
Kinetic action Rodeo Clown diplomacy from a little turdknocker who's only work experience before getting an affirmative action endorsement to be chief executive was being lead sales associate at a Baskin Robbins 31 Flavors in Hawaii.

And people (like him) say you can't be whatever you want in America

2 posted on 08/29/2013 8:29:14 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: WilliamIII

Just curious... perhaps someone knows the answer:

Does McConnell have a pulse?


3 posted on 08/29/2013 8:32:39 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: C210N

Pubbies.....get rid of McConnell!!! He is useless!!!


4 posted on 08/29/2013 8:34:51 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: WilliamIII

Why hasn’t Bonehead held a press conference?
Where is McConnell?
Neither one of them have to be in DC to hold a press conference.

Could it be that they both back a strike on Syria with flimsy evidence?
I think so.


5 posted on 08/29/2013 8:35:17 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: atc23

And all this war-war is harshing the neutral buzz over the Worst Family hiring-on another Siamese water poodle/whatever canine prop.


6 posted on 08/29/2013 8:36:25 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: WilliamIII; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; Liz; ...

Obama cant get the UN on board, nor NATO, even England voted no, guess being suckered into Iraq taught them a lesson.
His libs want no part in this either, but McCain and Grahamnesty are gung ho on it. (That is why they want amnesty, IED fodder)

So much for Obama’s line in the sand.


7 posted on 08/29/2013 8:36:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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8 posted on 08/29/2013 8:40:17 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: WilliamIII

Hopefully in Jan 2015 Reid and McConnell will no longer be in leadership or even in the Senate and real American Conservative like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, will be leading in the Senate...


9 posted on 08/29/2013 8:42:39 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: musicman

Is Clinton reaching for Jerrit’s breast?


10 posted on 08/29/2013 8:44:59 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: C210N
Does McConnell have a pulse?
well...the issue IS in doubt...
or a spine.
real public integrity..
nope..no signs of life
..except when attacking Conservatives in his party.

11 posted on 08/29/2013 8:48:53 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: morphing libertarian
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(It looks like Clinton had a pulse when the pic was taken
so it's a possibility!!)

12 posted on 08/29/2013 8:50:44 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: morphing libertarian

ValJar looks too porkulent to be a Muzzie Bro.


13 posted on 08/29/2013 8:56:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I think she be Iranian. Clinton will hit anything that moves, if it not too fast.


14 posted on 08/29/2013 8:58:58 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

She was born there to American leftist parental units.


15 posted on 08/29/2013 9:00:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sickoflibs

So... according to liberal hypocrites, Bush has a “coalition of the willing”, it counts as a “unilateral attack” and “going at it alone”, but when Obama can’t even get our “staunch ally” the UK to join him in bombing Iraq, it’s still in our “best interests” to bomb them.


16 posted on 08/29/2013 9:07:31 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy; Impy
RE :”So... according to liberal hypocrites, Bush has a “coalition of the willing”, it counts as a “unilateral attack” and “going at it alone”, but when Obama can’t even get our “staunch ally” the UK to join him in bombing Iraq, it’s still in our “best interests” to bomb them.”

Its not clear that he plans on doing anything now after this slapdown, but he sure looks pathetically weak and clueless in his foreign policy, especially given his ‘line in the sand’ on Syria. And his boasting election year that he could not 'sit by and let this happen'.

He sees the polls. He sees the midterms.

I would say that GOP attacking him from both sides is justice, given they did the same to GWB,

17 posted on 08/29/2013 9:18:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

She looks like a m****y. I would get in trouble for saying the real thing. There is no freedom of speech left in Obozo’s world.


18 posted on 08/29/2013 9:41:21 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: sickoflibs; Impy
>> Its not clear that he plans on doing anything now after this slapdown, but he sure looks pathetically weak and clueless in his foreign policy, especially given his ‘line in the sand’ on Syria. And his boasting election year that he could not 'sit by and let this happen'. <<

Well, according to this thread, Obama is still planning to go into Syria after the UK slapdown: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3060393/posts

Which again, shows the hypocrisy of the left, since they claimed Bush's 30-nation coalition for the Iraq invasion was a "unilateral attack" and "going at it alone". Who's Obama got on his side, France? And what about the leftists screaming about the "rush to war"? Bush had the slowest "rush to war" I've ever seen in my life (no wonder there were no WMDs to be found by the time we FINALLY invaded). How all that stuff about how its an impeachable offensive for a President to attack another country that's not an imminent threat to us? What happened to all that preachy liberal BS from 2008 about a "more humble, less arrogant foreign policy" where America wouldn't "bully" the world?

Bottom line: Obama supporters talking points have proven to be such BS, it's not even funny. And I haven't heard a single Obama supporter denounce the guy they voted for over Syria. I'll hand it to the UK left, at least they're consistently "anti-war" whether the Tories, Labour Party, or Lib Dems are pushing for it. The US left hasn't held their own accountable since Lyndon Johnson.

>> I would say that GOP attacking him from both sides is justice, given they did the same to GWB <<

It would be delicious irony after what they did in GWB, and now have collective amnesia about when they whine about how mean Republicans are to Obama. I don't think these socialists could take it if we had anti-war protest rallies with even 1/10th of the amount of bile they spewed at GWB. I sure wish we could get a massive rally going in Washington and claim Obama is lying about chemical weapons because he has a "thirst for blood" and wants to kill "little tan people" for "oil" The left can dish out the attacks, but they sure can't take it.

19 posted on 08/30/2013 11:19:13 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy
RE :”It would be delicious irony after what they did in GWB, and now have collective amnesia about when they whine about how mean Republicans are to Obama. I don't think these socialists could take it if we had anti-war protest rallies with even 1/10th of the amount of bile they spewed at GWB. I sure wish we could get a massive rally going in Washington and claim Obama is lying about chemical weapons because he has a “thirst for blood” and wants to kill “little tan people” for “oil” The left can dish out the attacks, but they sure can't take it”

I have pretty bad memories of GWB policies but you are correct, Bush at least went to congress and then he got England to share in the pain.
If Obama does neither then it shows what a hypocrite Obama is . However the libs themselves all seem to be against this from what I saw on last nights MSNBC shows, and they are skeptical of the WMD chemical reports and they want to see a UN report first.

How they react if he actually does it might be a different story.

Lsst, McCain and Grahamnesty are giving Obama some cover on this by demanding he do it.

20 posted on 08/30/2013 11:27:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: BillyBoy
Some of them are comparing Obama to Bush Iraq.
Others are saying its not the same because Bush's goal was regime change, and we dont know what Obama’s goal is except that he says its not regime change.
21 posted on 08/30/2013 11:40:52 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
Attacking him from both sides is a good strategy. The left covers their bases, argues it both ways all the time, and is never held accountable. I remember one of their biggest talking points against the Iraq War was "since we ALL know Saddam has WMDs, Bush invading Iraq will GUARANTEE he uses those WMDs on us"

>> However the libs themselves all seem to be against this from <<

How the politicians on the left react is one way (most of them voted FOR invading in Iraq, in contrary to the grassroots left-wing activists). On the grassroots level, I haven't seen a single person on the left (at least, the American left), oppose Obama on this one. Their general talking point seems to be that they're wary of the idea, but since their overlord Obama is in favor it, they're going to stand by him. (and I have no doubt they'd be on the streets now demanding Bush's head on a platter if he said the same stuff that Obama is saying). It's a similar herd mentality to those grassroot conservatives in the GOP who couldn't come up with a single logical reason to back Arlen Specter over a conservative in the GOP primary, but decided they had to since Bush supported him and "we must stand by our President"

>> Lsst, McCain and Grahamnesty are giving Obama some cover on this by demanding he do it. <<

Mark Kirk thinks it's a wonderful idea too. His fan club in the GOP claims this guy is a valuable asset because of his "military expertise", AFTER Kirk said 1) He was absolutely 100% sure Iraq had WMDs, and 2) He was absolutely 100% sure the surge it Iraq would NOT work. Very few people in Washington managed to be wrong on BOTH issues (Colin Powell also gets a Doofus Award for this). The only "military expertise" I've seen from Kirk is the pathological ability to lie about his service record.

22 posted on 08/30/2013 11:44:23 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: sickoflibs

” we dont know what Obama’s goal is except that he says its not regime change. “

Obama wants the MB in power.Just assume the opposite of anything he says


23 posted on 08/30/2013 2:03:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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