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Rand Paul on Syria: I canít see sending my son to fight on the same side as al Qaeda
Washington Examiner ^ | August 30, 2013 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 08/30/2013 6:13:06 AM PDT by theruleshavechanged

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To: theruleshavechanged

Yeah, but he’s wrong that the U.S. has no interests in the goings on in Syria. This Ron-Paul-like isolationism pull-the-covers-over-your-head foreign policy is itself not in America’s best interests and is a vulnerable area in a guy who otherwise seems like the best guy out there for 2016.


51 posted on 08/30/2013 7:06:38 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Piranha

Why isn’t the house coming into emergency session to discuss?

Because Bonehead is a coward. Where is Waldo Boehner?
Where is Eric Cantor? Where is Mitch McConnell? These so-called
leaders are AWOL.
The Brits took it seriously enough to have a vote. Where is our congress?
Why hasn’t Waldo Boehener had a press conference?


52 posted on 08/30/2013 7:07:07 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: theruleshavechanged
NEWSMAX

World Opinion Turns Against Obama's Plan to Attack Syria

53 posted on 08/30/2013 7:07:13 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: DoodleDawg

If we are going fight a war FIGHT A WAR-WIN A WAR

Dad was a Marine in the South Pacific during WW II. we decimated most Japanese cities and most German cities. They BEGGED for peace.

We lollygag around he Mid East just like we lollygaged around Southeast Asia back in the 60s 70s. We have new improved smart bombs that don’t effect the general population. It does not work. Fight a war to win not to protect enemy lives. Our humanity is our own worst enemy. The enemy has no such love for his non Muslim fellow man


54 posted on 08/30/2013 7:07:33 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: theruleshavechanged
I suggest we send ALL of Obama’s “sons” who are croping up lately. There are craploads of them. In Ok., Washington, Mississippi, everywhere.
55 posted on 08/30/2013 7:07:35 AM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: DoodleDawg

Dont confuse our Conservatives with the 2 time draft dodging Willard and his 5 loser sons...


56 posted on 08/30/2013 7:08:08 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Only Two Days until
September.

Less than $3.5k to go!!
We can do this!!

57 posted on 08/30/2013 7:08:14 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: DoodleDawg

Let the Arab countries and Allah sort it out.


58 posted on 08/30/2013 7:08:19 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman
Let the Arab countries and Allah sort it out.

Works for me.

59 posted on 08/30/2013 7:09:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Amen!


60 posted on 08/30/2013 7:09:45 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: HomeAtLast
"Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong." - Stephen Decatur

My son is active duty Army. I do not relish him serving under the present leadership and especially do not relish the possibility of him having to serve in an area where there is no national interest at stake.

However, my son's faith has never been challenged by anyone at any level during his time in service, and he has certainly never been asked or ordered to endorse the homosexual lifestyle.

Your father served honorably in World War II and I thank him for that. Please do my son the same courtesy, as his sacrifice gives you the freedom to say the things you have said about the Army in which he proudly serves.

In the meantime, please think on Decatur's quote as posted above. We would always wish to be in the right. In the case of Syria, however, we are not, but those who have sworn to serve, as my son and the sons of your friends have done, have work to do.

61 posted on 08/30/2013 7:13:31 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: tennmountainman

“Why hasn’t Waldo Boehener had a press conference?”

Because Boehner answers only to NeoCons

The Rise of the Neoconservatives

Mises Daily: Friday, March 02, 2012 by David Gordon

Mises Academy: David Gordon teaches The Betrayal of the American Right and the Rise of the Neoconservatives

President Obama is without question a warmonger, but except for Ron Paul, his conservative Republican opponents attack him for not being enough of a warmonger. We need to start a new war now, they say. We must immediately destroy the Iranian “nuclear program,” though exactly why Iran poses a threat to the United States they don’t bother to explain. Iran is just one example: we also have to wage a worldwide crusade against “militant Islam.” In the Republican debates, Gingrich and Santorum told off Ron Paul. He doesn’t want to kill people on useless crusades. To them, this makes Dr. Paul unpatriotic.

Things weren’t always like this. In the years before World War II, American conservatives opposed global crusading. The Old Right opposed the New Deal and favored the traditional American policy of not getting involved in foreign wars....

http://mises.org/daily/5944/


62 posted on 08/30/2013 7:14:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Wishful thinking. The reality is many GOP members support this strike.
However, they do not want to go on record supporting it with a vote.

One would at least expect Waldo Boehner to at least take time away
from his drinking and tanning to conduct a press conference.

Where is Waldo Boehner?


63 posted on 08/30/2013 7:16:38 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Ghost of SVR4
"Pie in the sky to be sure, more than likely it's just our current congress being impotent as usual. We're in a real mess in this country."

Neo Cons rule Congress now.

Via: http://mises.org/daily/5944/

64 posted on 08/30/2013 7:18:10 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: DoodleDawg

Nice try Doodledog.
It does not pass the smell test.

What is preventing Waldo Boehner from conducting a press conference
and demanding a vote in the house. Where is your buddy Waldo Boehner?


65 posted on 08/30/2013 7:19:35 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: HomeAtLast

There is no way I could suggest to any young person that they do as I did and go straight from high school graduation to boot camp in San Diego. I would as likely suggest to them that they should jump from a ledge and flap their arms. I know that is exactly what the left wants, to keep real patriots out of the armed forces but how could anyone encourage a young person to enlist now?


66 posted on 08/30/2013 7:23:25 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Please do my son the same courtesy, as his sacrifice gives you the freedom to say the things you have said

I'm sorry but I do not see how your son is giving me freedom of speech. The Lord gave me my freedoms.

Furthermore, "my country right or wrong" is not a righteous principle, and is often seen alongside "I was just following orders."

I fully realize that must offend you but that is my opinion; which your son is, in your opinion, somehow responsible for, so I trust you'll respect that.

67 posted on 08/30/2013 7:25:01 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (Galt's Gulch: it isn't Valley Forge.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

I only pray he keeps it up. The hypocrisy is stunning in that EVERYTHING they falsely claimed about Iraq couldn’t apply better to the Syrian situation.
Way to “go it alone” B. Hussein!


68 posted on 08/30/2013 7:25:22 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Lloyd-right

The Spy and Surveillance State Expands

War Is The Health Of Politicians In Trouble

Posted on June 14, 2013 by Gary D. Barnett

Isn’t it convenient given all the scandals surrounding Obama that the White House is claiming that the Syrian government is using chemical weapons on its own people? That assertion is simply an excuse, a “crossing of the red line,” that will set the stage for more war.

More war will certainly take the political heat away from Obama as he prepares to slaughter more innocent people in the Middle East in the false name of protecting Syrians and Americans. In actuality, he would only be protecting himself and the entire war profiteering military industrial complex. Considering his neo-con credentials, the Republicans would be well served to appoint Obama president for life...

http://garydbarnett.com/GDBdaily/?p=1844


69 posted on 08/30/2013 7:28:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: kidd

Russia sending warships to the Mediterranean: report
AFPAFP – Thu, Aug 29, 2013

Russia will “over the next few days” be sending an anti-submarine ship and a missile cruiser to the Mediterranean as the West prepares for possible strikes against Syria, the Interfax news agency said on Thursday.

“The well-known situation shaping up in the eastern Mediterranean called for certain corrections to the make-up of the naval forces,” a source in the Russian General Staff told Interfax.

“A large anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet will join them (the existing naval forces) over the next few days.

“Later it will be joined by the Moskva, a rocket cruiser of the Black Sea Fleet which is now wrapping up its tasks in the northern Atlantic and will soon begin a Transatlantic voyage towards the Strait of Gibraltar.”


70 posted on 08/30/2013 7:35:54 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: DoodleDawg

What’s your point?


71 posted on 08/30/2013 7:38:16 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: KeyLargo

Right. Doodledog says the constitution requires The President to call a
special session?

The constitution does not restrict Waldo Boehner from conducting a press
conference and demanding a vote in the house.

So where in the World is Waldo Boehner?
Is he drinking? Is he playing golf with Obama? Is he crying? Is he at a tanning salon. Americans want to know.


72 posted on 08/30/2013 7:41:00 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: KeyLargo

I’m sure the Russians are not moving Warships to Syrian for a Boat Show.


73 posted on 08/30/2013 7:43:33 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: DoodleDawg
Because according to Article II only the president can call the Congress into special session.

... [The President] may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them ...

The word "only" is not there. The Speaker can call the House into session anytime.

74 posted on 08/30/2013 7:45:17 AM PDT by SFConservative
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To: HollyB
Wait a minute! Maybe we're not giving Obama enough strategic credit here. Maybe the plan is to send in our troops to fight along side al queda, and at the opportune moment, send them all to Bin Laden!

Hey, I had to crack the stress barrier for a second. It's not good waking up and wondering before you even get out of bed, if Obama has started WWIII yet.:(

75 posted on 08/30/2013 7:51:53 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: SFConservative
The word "only" is not there. The Speaker can call the House into session anytime.

I don't think you are correct on that. Article I, Section IV, Clause 5 says that consent of both houses is needed to adjourn for more than three days. It should follow that consent of both would be needed to cut the adjournment short. Neither Boehner or Reid can do it on their own.

76 posted on 08/30/2013 7:54:17 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SFConservative

The speaker Waldo Boehner can also call a press conference to
demand a vote on a strike. The fact he as not do so tells you everything
you need to know about Waldo. He is in on it with Obama.

Where in the world is Waldo Boehner?


77 posted on 08/30/2013 7:58:21 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: DoodleDawg

The constitution does not restrict Waldo Boehner from conducting a
press conference and demanding a vote.

Where in the world is your buddy Waldo Boehner?


78 posted on 08/30/2013 8:01:36 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: DoodleDawg

Agree. You know, don’t you, that pretty much anything you hear now from a GOPe regime ‘Republican’ is just panty-waisted “I need put a couple of worthless cents in here, too.”

ANY elected Congressional Republican worth a damn is home honorably answering to his constituents like a man (or a woman) with a real pair of balls (or similar lady parts).

The rest are off in locations undisclosed.


79 posted on 08/30/2013 8:03:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: theruleshavechanged

Senator Rand is correct. Obozo Liar and his Mulim Brotherhood Thug kitchen cabinet are pro al Qaeda if not al Qaida:

Al Qaeda linked groups, behind the Benghazi killings of Americans including our ambassador, train jihadists for Syrian rebel groups! http://freebeacon.com/u-s-al-qaeda-linked-group-behind-benghazi-attack-trains-jihadists-for-syrian-rebel-groups/

When Obozo Liar decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured – for the very first time in history – that the United States will be on the same side as al-Qaeda or any enemy, who has killed thousands of innocent Americans on 9/11 or in the past.

Quite an alliance! The al Qaeda Islamic thugs/serial killers, who slaughtered thousands of innocent Americans on 9/11, will then be fighting alongside the very nation, whose innocents they so cruelly murdered almost exactly 12 years ago. The same killing thugs, who killed our ambassador and 3 others in Benghazi last September. He refused to send our military to help those Americans and allowed them to be slaughtered in Benghazi. Yet, he will use our military to fight against Syria’s enemies, al Qaeda.

What would have happen to FDR if he had ordered our Flying Tigers to attack the army of China instead of Japan’s air force and troops in China? The same evil Japanese military that killed our sailors and others on December 7, 1941. The same evil Japanese military which slaughtered millions of innocent Chinese with their cruel aerial bombings and on the ground military slaughter and rape of innocent Chinese.


80 posted on 08/30/2013 8:05:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: 444Flyer

‘Morning 444. Thanks for the humor. We all need a little relief!


81 posted on 08/30/2013 8:11:24 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Piranha
Why isn’t the house coming into emergency session to discuss?

Has the President asked them to?
82 posted on 08/30/2013 8:12:33 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: HomeAtLast
I have several friends (in three different families) who have young sons either enlisted or planning to enlist in the military.

Why?

83 posted on 08/30/2013 8:13:30 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Grampa Dave

But, but, but...the other day Juan McCain said it was not the Muslim Brotherhood that we were arming...

Then later he said it was terrible that no arms were reaching the intended recipients, meaning some general in charge of some military unit that was supposed to be ok for us to support.

I read these together and I am confused. We send stuff, but it doesn’t get where we want it, and where we want it is not MB. So where is it ending up?

Please explain, Juan...You were quite emotional during that interview, I think with Greta.


84 posted on 08/30/2013 8:14:34 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Grampa Dave

You have summed it up well. You only forgot that there are a lot of Republicans [even a majority] who also want to be on the side of al Queda. This is an equal opportunity FU. There must be a lot of political contributions coming from the friends of al.


85 posted on 08/30/2013 8:16:15 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
"But, but, but...the other day Juan McCain said it was not the Muslim Brotherhood that we were arming... Then later he said it was terrible that no arms were reaching the intended recipients, "

Hey McCain, let's arm both sides so they can kill each other and we stay the hell out.

86 posted on 08/30/2013 8:18:50 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: theruleshavechanged
I can’t see sending my son to fight on the same side as al Qaeda

The corollary to that is the sublime stupidness of sending my son to fight, effectively, against Israel. Simply Stunning that we've come to this point.

87 posted on 08/30/2013 8:19:40 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: DoodleDawg
Can he see sending his son to fight on the same side as Assad?

Are those our only two choices?

88 posted on 08/30/2013 8:23:10 AM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: Romulus

Why do they enlist? I wish I knew. They just say they don’t care about politics. I try to be tactful, telling them that politics doesn’t care about them either. Except as cannon fodder.

This doesn’t sink in.

Their parents are all conservatives. They know the political leadership is evil. Yet they don’t arrive at the logical conclusions.


89 posted on 08/30/2013 8:23:12 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (Galt's Gulch: it isn't Valley Forge.)
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To: SunStar

Has Waldo Boehner held a press conference and demanded a vote?

Where in the world is Waldo Boehner?


90 posted on 08/30/2013 8:31:27 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: LachlanMinnesota

“McAinal is mentally ill and has evidently been compromised by the files the NSA, FBI and Navy must have on him.

His recent behavior ties in with his back stabbing of Sarah Palin during and after the 2008 election.

Hopefully, if Obozo Liar goes down due to his lies and messes, he will take McAinal with him.


91 posted on 08/30/2013 8:41:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: HomeAtLast

He’s protecting your freedom. As your dad did.

“My country right or wrong” may not be righteous, and the entire quote, which I notice you truncate, indicates that. But I don’t like the idea of fighting in Syria any more than you probably do. We have not been attacked: intervention is therefore illegal. However, the military is subject to the civilian authority, which is how our system works. Take it up with Baraq, not the soldiers.

I respect your opinion, that was never an issue. But your assertion that somehow our soldiers must bow to the whim of homosexual opinion isn’t based in fact in my own experience and I notice you do not defend that statement in your reply.

We’ve got some good people defending this country. That’s not my opinion, that’s fact. If you can’t back those people, that’s your business and I respect that too.


92 posted on 08/30/2013 8:44:43 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Imagine your son was at the zoo. He looked into the lion's cage and saw a small body laying on the ground inside. He instinctively climbed over the fence to come to the aid of what he thought was the child in danger. Only, it turns out it was simply a doll thrown over the fence by the zoo keepers for the purpose of feeding the lions a meal of hero.

Your son would still be brave and would still be a hero. Your son would still be doing the right thing. The problem is that there are also evil men in this world that would use your son's good instincts and virtues for their own evil purposes.

It is not wrong to point that fact out. It is the only way to get better zoo keepers.

93 posted on 08/30/2013 8:45:21 AM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: nitzy

I agree. Intervention in Syria is wrong and illegal as presently constructed.

I resent the implication though, as would anyone serving honorably, that such service to the nation is tainted due to a commander in chief that he did not choose.

We do need better zookeepers. No question about it. I work to help elect them.


94 posted on 08/30/2013 8:48:38 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Turn, Turn, Turn .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKP4cfU28vM


95 posted on 08/30/2013 8:51:26 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: nitzy
Are those our only two choices?

Stay out of it completely would be the third.

96 posted on 08/30/2013 8:53:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: tennmountainman

97 posted on 08/30/2013 8:56:00 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Great pics. Where in the world is Waldo Boehner? Americans want to know.


98 posted on 08/30/2013 9:14:17 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: theruleshavechanged

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3060375/posts

David Cameron loses Syria vote in Commons
BBC ^ | 29.08.13 | BBC

Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:39:52 PM by Zajko

British MPs have voted against possible military action against Syria to deter the use of chemical weapons.

David Cameron said it was clear the British Parliament does not want action and “I will act accordingly”.

The government motion was defeated 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes.


99 posted on 08/30/2013 9:37:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: PapaNew

I think it’s time for isolationism. Why? Because the ME policies of the last 35 years have not worked. To HELL with them.


100 posted on 08/30/2013 9:47:54 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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