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Tylenol maker tries new warning cap to curb overdoses
Morning Sentinel Online ^ | 30 August 2013 | Matthew Perrone-AP

Posted on 08/30/2013 8:59:41 AM PDT by NautiNurse

WASHINGTON — Bottles of Tylenol sold in the U.S. will soon bear red warnings alerting users to the potentially fatal risks of taking too much of the popular pain reliever.

The unusual step, disclosed by the company that makes Tylenol, comes amid a growing number of lawsuits and pressure from the federal government that could have widespread ramifications for a medicine taken by millions of people every day.

[snip]The new cap is designed to grab the attention of people who don't read warnings that already appear in the fine print on the product's label, according to company executives.

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Overdoses from acetaminophen send 55,000 to 80,000 people to the emergency room in the U.S. each year and kill at least 500, according the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration. Acetaminophen can be found in more than 600 common over-the-counter products used by nearly one in four American adults every week, including household brands like Nyquil cold formula, Excedrin pain tablets and Sudafed sinus pills.

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The move comes at a critical time for the company, which faces more than 85 personal injury lawsuits in federal court that blame Tylenol for liver injuries and deaths. At the same time, the Food and Drug Administration is drafting long-awaited safety measures that could curtail the use of Tylenol and other acetaminophen products.

Much is at stake for McNeil and its parent company. Johnson & Johnson does not report sales of Tylenol, but total sales of all over-the-counter medicines containing acetaminophen were more than $1.75 billion last year, according to Information Resources Inc., a retail data service.

Safety experts are most concerned about "extra-strength" versions of Tylenol and other pain relievers with acetaminophen found in drugstores.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: acetaminophen; liver; tylenol; warning
For those who use Tylenol instead of aspirin just 'cause you heard aspirin might be bad for you. A stunning number of OTC (over the counter) cold, flu, cough and allergy medicines also contain acetaminophen. It is very, very easy to consume a potentially lethal combination of medications due to multiple sources of acetaminophen.
1 posted on 08/30/2013 8:59:42 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse

2 posted on 08/30/2013 9:00:12 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: NautiNurse
Good thing it's not in cursive...


3 posted on 08/30/2013 9:01:56 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: NautiNurse

multi organ failure


4 posted on 08/30/2013 9:02:13 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: NativeSon
That should be on the cap, too. Just telling them that it contains acetaminophen and and to read the dang label, won't do much for the low info types.
5 posted on 08/30/2013 9:05:18 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Trial lawyers are drooling and trolling for non-English speaking clients. Prolly keeping a few bottles of Extra Strength Tylenol on their desks and in the waiting rooms.


6 posted on 08/30/2013 9:06:31 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: NautiNurse
I never take acetaminophen unless it happens to be in a hydrocodone prescription which I have received after surgery. One of my doctors said that acetaminophen is added to hydrocodone as a deterrent so that people will not take too much hydrocodone. The deterrent factor is the potential liver damage that acetaminophen can cause.

Also, I don't take it because it doesn't seem to relieve pain. I think the only reason it ever became popular as a pain reliever is that it is one of the few that does not cause stomach irritation; so hospitals can give it to people who have not eaten.

7 posted on 08/30/2013 9:07:00 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: NautiNurse

Acetaminophen is very, very, very bad for you. Particularly the liver. Somehow they(originally McNeil, and then J&J) managed to get every Tom, Dick, and Harry drug producer to add that crap into everything. Some magical synergistic effect..........NOT.


8 posted on 08/30/2013 9:09:26 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: NautiNurse

Never touch the stuff. Only baby aspirin, the coated variety. Enough for me, luckily.


9 posted on 08/30/2013 9:10:20 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: NautiNurse
I'll stick with aspirin, thanks all the same, though even that tends to come in bottles with so-called "child-proof" caps that aggravate the [fill in the blank] out of my arthritic hands.
10 posted on 08/30/2013 9:13:16 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: blackdog

Tylenol is a fever reducer, but it is not an anti-inflammatory, which is the cause of many aches and pains.


11 posted on 08/30/2013 9:13:20 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Something on the order of 40% of UK suicides one year was via acetaminophen.


12 posted on 08/30/2013 9:13:56 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: NautiNurse

*** A stunning number of OTC (over the counter) cold, flu, cough and allergy medicines also contain acetaminophen.***

This is true! My wife needed a common pain killer during flu and everything I found had Aseto in it. She cannot take Tylenol. I had to special order another product with aspirin.

My doctor told me how to get the best of use from aspirin and aceto for flu.

Take two aspirin.
Three hours later take two Aceto.
Three hours later take two asprin.
Three hours take two Aceto.

Each works different on pain, and you don’t overdose on either one.

I will NOT take anything Naproxin (napersin)as it killed my mom’s kidneys after ONE dose.


13 posted on 08/30/2013 9:15:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Calvin Locke

Ah yes, the Brits seem to love their paracetamol. Unfortunately, way too many folks who drink to excess also love their Tylenol too.


14 posted on 08/30/2013 9:16:44 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Jane Long
Did studies on it back in school (PCP&S) - big hepatic effector. Dosage is one issue as folks here know that acetaminophen is sprinkled into many OTC's & Rx's like an excipient these days...

but

What happens when you are taking other 'things' that are tough on the liver? That includes alcohol, other meds; orals, parenterals. Even exposure to organic volatiles - vapors - that are not a problem on their own.

synergistic effects

15 posted on 08/30/2013 9:24:23 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: NautiNurse; All

OK what about Ibuprofen?

I read that it is an anti-inflammotory as well as pain reliever

It seemed to work much much better for me.

I know Tylenol (aceto) is very bad for your liver. I think mine is damaged from it.


16 posted on 08/30/2013 9:25:46 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Jane Long
That should be on the cap, too. Just telling them that it contains acetaminophen and and to read the dang label, won't do much for the low info types.

That would be like a warning on a joint that reads "Contains cannabis."

17 posted on 08/30/2013 9:26:58 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: NautiNurse

I have been eating foods and herbs that are helpul anti-inflammatory items

I feel much better from it (turmeric!! with common table pepper)


18 posted on 08/30/2013 9:27:23 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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We can do this!!

19 posted on 08/30/2013 9:34:10 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: NautiNurse

I use Advil (ibuprofen) for the occasional headache. Tylenol is bad for you.


20 posted on 08/30/2013 9:34:16 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: NautiNurse

Years ago, I heard one of the leading pharmacologists in the world go after acetaminophen and the salt substitutes for being bs that was foisted on Americans and Euros.

Acetaminophen as you noted later in this thread does not work for aches and pains and only works to reduce fever.

Acetaminophen has a low LD50 by itself in normal people and is more dangerous in people with bad livers, like people who have more than 2 drinks a day.

Acetaminophen drug levels can be increased by many common drugs and foods.

Acetaminophen is combined with what seems to be an endless group of other otc drugs, so unintentional ODs can happen when Acetaminophen is added to these otc drugs.

A very few people should not take aspirin, so Acetaminophen may be needed if they have high fevers.


21 posted on 08/30/2013 9:34:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: NautiNurse

I don’t take acetaminophen because for me, it’s not that effective a painkiller. Now, ibuprofen, on the other hand....


22 posted on 08/30/2013 9:34:36 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: NautiNurse; Mr. K

I take stuff with Chlorpheniramine Maleate and Phenylephrine HCl in it, but it also has acetaminophen. This article has convinced me to find (and I did, in Walgreens, online) the same two ingredients in something WITHOUT acetaminophen. Thanks guys!


23 posted on 08/30/2013 9:44:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I take aspirin. I might as well drink a glass of water as take two Tylenol.


24 posted on 08/30/2013 9:50:51 AM PDT by sheana
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To: blackdog; NautiNurse
Very bad for you? Everything you put into your body had a Median Lethal Dose. Some substances have a higher MLD than others. Acetaminophen has a tolerably high MLD but as noted it is possible to OD by unwittingly taking a combination of products that contain it.

I tend to read labels so I am not in any danger from acetaminophen. I trust that most FReepers do likewise. The ignorant and the foolish have the trial lawyers to take care of them.

25 posted on 08/30/2013 9:52:41 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: NautiNurse

This could have happened to my Son last week. He woke up with a 101 fever and severe sinus congestion. I said “wait, don’t take anything, I’m going to the store to get Mucinex and a new thermometer”. I can never get those ear thermometers to work, and wanted one of those forehead swipe ones. By the time I got back 20 minutes later my soon to be ex-wife had given him TWO extra strength tylenol without telling me. This is double his dose by body weight. Thank God he asked if there was Acetaminophen in the Mucinex, or I would given him 600 mg more. Fun times.


26 posted on 08/30/2013 9:53:12 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I almost thought you should never take no more than 8 tablets in a 24 hour period.

27 posted on 08/30/2013 9:56:16 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Just saying what the doctor said to me.

Of course, I doubt if you will wake up every three hours in the night to take them.


28 posted on 08/30/2013 10:08:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: NautiNurse

I began taking magnesium after someone posted an article on FR a month ago and haven’t had but one headache since. I had frequent headaches before. I have been sleeping through the night and getting 7-8 hrs. every night. I built up to 800 mg/day of magnesium glycinate. I haven’t had Tylenol or aspirin since.


29 posted on 08/30/2013 10:23:19 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: COBOL2Java
I am surprised its not also written in Spanish or one of the other American languages
30 posted on 08/30/2013 10:53:20 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Recommended dose was dropped to below 3.5 grams per day (extra strength tabs are 500 mg each so 7 tabs per day is maximum). If you take the time to read the literature, you can diminish the hepatotoxic effects by taking 600 mg of N-acetyl-cysteine as well as vitamin C. NAC is what is used in emergency rooms for an overdose. The problem is that as has been said, acetaminophen is used in so many other products that the dose becomes cumulative; pharmacists are concerned that a lot of the “high dose” pain killers contain acetaminophen as well. That is why the recommended dose was dropped.

As for ibuprofen, that also causes problems with the kidneys when used to excess. I’ve sworn off the stuff completely.


31 posted on 08/30/2013 10:56:39 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (The injustice of trendiness is nearly dualistic in its isomorphism.)
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To: NautiNurse

“Tylenol... is not an anti-inflammatory”

That’s incorrect. Tylenol is also a potent anti-inflammatory.


32 posted on 08/30/2013 11:03:11 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I think the idea of alternating acetaminophen and aspirin is a great idea. I’ve often thought about doing that myself when necessary.

Aspirin aside, acetaminophen is actually by far the safest of the other NSAIDs if one has heart disease, as ALL NSAIDs except aspirin increase the chance of heart attack, substantially in some cases. Acetaminophen has the smallest increase of heart attacks of the non-aspirin NSAIDs.

That being said, one has to be VERY careful to not OD on acetaminophen or it will destroy your liver and kill you. The biggest difficulty is that acetaminophen is an ingredient in so many different combination remedies, it can be difficult to know if you’re taking too much.


33 posted on 08/30/2013 11:11:38 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I never take acetaminophen unless it happens to be in a hydrocodone prescription which I have received after surgery. One of my doctors said that acetaminophen is added to hydrocodone as a deterrent so that people will not take too much hydrocodone. The deterrent factor is the potential liver damage that acetaminophen can cause.

I once worked with a woman who took enormous amounts of acetaminophen for her headaches; she also drank heavily (not in the office, though). I warned her repeatedly of the dangers of doing that, but to no avail. One day she died of acute liver failure.

34 posted on 08/30/2013 11:38:36 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: NautiNurse

The irony of this is that acetaminophen is a poison to most mammals, reptiles, birds and fish. Humans are unusual in that they can take some of it for therapeutic reasons.

In Guam, there are invasive snakes that the government wants to eradicate. To do this, dead mice have an acetaminophen pills inserted into them, a small parachute tied to them, and they are dropped by aircraft into the jungle.


35 posted on 08/30/2013 11:42:26 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: NautiNurse
It is really easy to overdoes when you are taking combination medicines. Which is why I prefer to take a handful of pills if necessary rather then the combos.
36 posted on 08/30/2013 11:46:16 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
dead mice have an acetaminophen pills inserted into them, a small parachute tied to them, and they are dropped by aircraft into the jungle.

"I smell a rat," said the snake. No self-respecting snake would eat a dead mouse, much less one that parachuted into the jungle.

37 posted on 08/30/2013 1:25:20 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: catnipman
That’s incorrect. Tylenol is also a potent anti-inflammatory.

Cite your source, Bucky. The Tylenol company does not claim acetaminophen to be an anti-inflammatory. Other than that, you don't know what you are talking about.

Sincerely,

Registered Nurse

38 posted on 08/30/2013 1:33:20 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Mr. K
OK what about Ibuprofen?

Ibuprofen (Advil, etc.) is a powerful anti-inflammatory and fever reducer. Never exceed the daily recommended dose, and drink plenty of fluids (ahem..water) when taking ibuprofen or other NSAIDS. They can be toxic to the kidneys.

39 posted on 08/30/2013 1:43:49 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I never take acetaminophen unless it happens to be in a hydrocodone prescription which I have received after surgery. One of my doctors said that acetaminophen is added to hydrocodone as a deterrent so that people will not take too much hydrocodone. The deterrent factor is the potential liver damage that acetaminophen can cause.

They actually use because it is not an NSAID. Many pain treatments are prescribed without the use anti-inflamatories. Bone fusions are examples of where anti-inflamatories would slow down the healing process and are contra indicated.
40 posted on 08/30/2013 2:01:23 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: catnipman
That’s incorrect. Tylenol is also a potent anti-inflammatory.

No. Tylenol is not an NSAID.
41 posted on 08/30/2013 2:07:44 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Calvin Locke
Something on the order of 40% of UK suicides one year was via acetaminophen.

I heard a while back that they were able to greatly lower that number by simply putting it in blister packs instead of bottles.

42 posted on 08/30/2013 2:07:56 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I heard a while back that they were able to greatly lower that number by simply putting it in blister packs instead of bottles.

Same for Sudafed--blister packs intended to make it more difficult for the meth makers. That didn't work, so they put Sudafed behind the counter, with sign-your-life-away identification procedures and daily/monthly quantity limits.

43 posted on 08/30/2013 2:16:11 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: NautiNurse

Well, to be fair, suicide is more of an impulsive act than cooking meth.


44 posted on 08/30/2013 2:18:58 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: NautiNurse

I’ve been through the five week ordeal of a shattered shoulder, surgery, narcotic pain meds until I asked if I could try to get off.

All along the drugs contained acetaminophen, and when my PA said go ahead and try cold turkey, he said use Regular Tylenol, and warned about over use.

I’ve stayed well within the guidelines. I can see how easily somebody could miss the impact of multiple sources.

He advised me to stay below 2500 Mg. daily, and I have.


45 posted on 08/30/2013 2:19:50 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

Sorry to hear you’ve been through a painful summer. Glad to learn you are on the mend.


46 posted on 08/30/2013 2:43:03 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: NautiNurse

“Sorry to hear you’ve been through a painful summer. Glad to learn you are on the mend.”

Thanks. Within seconds of the trauma 36 days ago, I knew it was going to be a big deal, my worst medical experience to date.

I needed and wanted those high power pain meds to begin. But two weeks after surgery, I wanted an end to them. The side effects were awful, worst being anxiety-panic.


47 posted on 08/30/2013 3:30:46 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Mr. K

I had to stop Ibuprofin because of high blood pressure.

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48 posted on 08/30/2013 6:10:32 PM PDT by Mears
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To: NautiNurse

I do not find much pain relief from Tylenol. I usually take ibuprofen. Aspirin works for me, too, but I hardly ever take it.

Any drug can have noxious effects on the body, either via acute effects (overdose) or long term chronic exposure. As much as possible, I try to avoid taking anything. I manage arthritis pain by trying to keep the muscles around the joints strong. I have arthritis in my back, and it is always painful to varying degrees.


49 posted on 08/31/2013 1:38:06 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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