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Police storm homeschool class, take children by force [Germany enforces Hitler's homeschooling ban]
World Net Daily ^ | August 30, 2013 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 08/30/2013 11:39:05 AM PDT by grundle

Four children, ages 7 to 14, have been forcibly taken from their home by police armed with a battering ram, and their parents have been told they won’t see them again soon, all over the issue of homeschooling, according to a stunning new report from the Home School Legal Defense Association.

HSLDA, the world’s premiere advocate for homeschoolers, said the family of Dirk and Petra Wunderlich has battled for several years Germany’s World War II-era requirement that all children submit to the indoctrination programs in the nation’s public schools.

The shocking raid was made solely because the parents were providing their children’s education. HSLDA discovered the paperwork that authorized police officers and social workers to use force on the children contained no claims of mistreatment.

“The children were taken to unknown locations,” HSLDA said. “Officials ominously promised the parents that they would not be seeing their children anytime soon.”

The raid, which took place Thursday at 8 a.m. as the children were beginning their day’s classes, has been described by observers as “brutal and vicious.”

A team of 20 social workers, police and special agents stormed the family’s Darmstadt, Germany, home. HSLDA reported a Judge Koenig, who is assigned to the Darmstadt family court, signed an order authorizing the immediate seizure of the children by force.

“Citing the parents’ failure to cooperate ‘with the authorities to send the children to school,’ the judge also authorized the use of force ‘against the children’ … reasoning that such force might be required because the children had ‘adopted the parents’ opinions’ regarding homeschooling and that ‘no cooperation could be expected’ from either the parents or the children,” HSLDA said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Germany; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: frhf; hitler; homeschooling; moralabsolutes; nazis; policestate
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1 posted on 08/30/2013 11:39:06 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Coming to a home school in America.


2 posted on 08/30/2013 11:43:20 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: grundle

The leftwing statists need to be smacked down hard & soon.


3 posted on 08/30/2013 11:45:24 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: grundle

S crew em.

Nazi’s


4 posted on 08/30/2013 11:47:06 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Coming to a home school in America.

No exaggeration in your statement one bit.

If the sodomites get their way with the state (and they will), any parent who opposes homosexuality, either actively or passively, will be deemed an abuse threat and have their children forcibly removed from them. The Demonic-rats are already hinting at this ardent wish of theirs; soon, they will be abundantly open about it.

5 posted on 08/30/2013 11:48:51 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: grundle

And our despots in D. Cl have just revoked the right of a German Christian family to live in TN, where the had fled when the German government threatened to take their children away because they were homeschooling them on religious grounds.

Mexicans can flood this country, citing the fear of persecution by drug cartels and the government grants them asylum, but these German Christians get no sympathy from our godless government.


6 posted on 08/30/2013 11:49:48 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Only Two Days Until
September.

Less than $3k to go!!
We can do this!!

7 posted on 08/30/2013 11:52:11 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: grundle

Father God,

I pray for this family so cruelly treated by their government. Father, may kindness and mercy be present wherever the children are being held. Comfort the parents and give them strength, fortitude for the fight ahead, helpful publicity, legal assistance and funding. May they all resort to prayer in every uncertain moment, and rest assured of Your everpresent help in time of need.

Please, Father of All, in the absence of any kind of abuse by parents in Your judgment, help Christians and other homeschoolers in Germany, the United States and elsewhere to uphold their parental rights to instruct their children. Convict the hearts of Angela Merkel, Eric Holder and all other officials who wish to substitute the cold strictures of government for the loving arms of parents and the community of Christians in the lives of children.

We lift up to you especially this family the Wunderlichs, and also the German family the Romeikes who have sought asylum in the United States in their appeals case for religious freedom for themselves and their children.

In Jesus’ Holy Name,

Amen.


8 posted on 08/30/2013 11:52:51 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Vendome
Real, live human beings ... the kind that started life just like you and me ... somehow get to thinking, believing and acting in a way 180 degrees different than I do.

How?

How does one actually get up at 6AM, dress for war, batter the door of a home down (probably yelling, "GO ..GO ..GO .."), surrounding a petrified family and just TAKING the kids ?

Someone explain to me how a group of human beings can be so numb to crying children, pleading parents, ...take a look around you ... does this look like a torture chamber or sexually perverted castle?

I'll NEVER get government sycophants

9 posted on 08/30/2013 11:53:35 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: grundle

Time for Germans to start killing.


10 posted on 08/30/2013 11:53:47 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: grundle

Christians - time to wake up and get working. Think. Connect. Motivate. Say a prayer and then get going.


11 posted on 08/30/2013 11:59:52 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: fwdude

Only some states. My state of Tennessee has taken a hard U-turn against liberalism in the past ten years.


12 posted on 08/30/2013 12:00:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: grundle

Unless in lock down my kids would be home by noon or an alternate agreed location.


13 posted on 08/30/2013 12:01:30 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Only some states. My state of Tennessee has taken a hard U-turn against liberalism in the past ten years.

Well, we'll see if they're serious enough about your marriage amendment to put a smack-down on the town of Collegedale, which just began recognizing out of state same-sex "marriages" for city employees. I'm hoping they will, but don't expect much of an offense to be mounted.

14 posted on 08/30/2013 12:05:27 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: grundle

Meanwhile the kids will be given to the care of Muslim child molesters or something


15 posted on 08/30/2013 12:09:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yup, demoncrats just like the German government believe that our children belong to the State and will brook no interference with a child’s indoctrination.


16 posted on 08/30/2013 12:11:55 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: txrefugee
Mexicans can flood this country, citing the fear of persecution by drug cartels and the government grants them asylum, but these German Christians get no sympathy from our godless government.

Mexicans bring with them a drug culture, a crime culture, a culture unwilling to adapt to it's new country. Germans like the ones pictured above are highly intelligent and adaptable to new situations.

Can't have that around here!

17 posted on 08/30/2013 12:16:27 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: knarf
Real, live human beings ... the kind that started life just like you and me ... somehow get to thinking, believing and acting in a way 180 degrees different than I do.

How?

How does one actually get up at 6AM, dress for war, batter the door of a home down (probably yelling, "GO ..GO ..GO .."), surrounding a petrified family and just TAKING the kids ?

Someone explain to me how a group of human beings can be so numb to crying children, pleading parents, ...take a look around you ... does this look like a torture chamber or sexually perverted castle?

I'll NEVER get government sycophants

Like anything else in life - they do it one step at a time, year after year, decade after decade, working on themselves, pushing and pushing away from the light.

A snarky comment here, a mocking smile there, a betrayal over here, a backstabbing over there, a bootlicking over here, a calculation over there...

Then "before you know it," one day they're trying to figure out whether shooting the dog in front of the child, or breaking the father's jaw with a baton or tazing the mother while ripping the baby out of their hands, will be better to get the promotion to detective.

18 posted on 08/30/2013 12:23:57 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: grundle

Conservatives need to form a mercenary army.


19 posted on 08/30/2013 12:27:26 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: knarf

Callous, badge adoring, power seekers...


20 posted on 08/30/2013 12:34:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: txrefugee

“Mexicans can flood this country, citing the fear of persecution by drug cartels and the government grants them asylum, but these German Christians get no sympathy from our godless government.”


They can flood our borders because of the self loathing, scum of the earth, Ted Kennedy decided he needed to brown up America.

What we need is people of ANY COLOR who can contribute not parasites attracted by all the social/commie programs funded by money extorted from us by force.

Return to the Elis Island type immigration which while it may not have been perfect was 1000% better than this discrimination against people from Europe who can contribute.

Unfortunately, Teds plan screwed up the country so bad that fewer people from Europe want to come here.


21 posted on 08/30/2013 12:51:38 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: grundle

bkmk


22 posted on 08/30/2013 1:04:52 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: grundle

Springtime for Hitler.


23 posted on 08/30/2013 1:39:23 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: grundle

Sadly, Dear Leader is watching this with glee.


24 posted on 08/30/2013 1:39:44 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: grundle
Bob Unruh joined WND in 2006 after nearly three decades with the Associated Press, as well as several Upper Midwest newspapers, where he covered everything from legislative battles and sports to tornadoes and homicidal survivalists. He is also a photographer whose scenic work has been used commercially.

So much for the credibility of Bob Unruh. Three decades as an AP propagandist seems to warp the mind. (As I've pointed out in earlier threads on home schooling here, the legalities -and inferences- are not quite as represented in the article. To put it mildly.)

25 posted on 08/30/2013 1:49:03 PM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: TBP

When your ideas are inferior, they can only be imposed by force. The liberty of free thought must be abolished for the failed ideas of tyrants to flourish.


26 posted on 08/30/2013 1:53:09 PM PDT by DaveyB (Note to the NSA agent monitering this: the peace of tyranny is the enemy of humanity)
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To: knarf

Just remember this is a Nazi-era law.


27 posted on 08/30/2013 2:07:25 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: grundle

Well at least they aren’t shipping the kids to Cuba like Elian........


28 posted on 08/30/2013 2:34:51 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: metmom

Germany has a long history of persecuting homeschooling families.

It was in 1937 when Adolf Hitler said: “this new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing.”


29 posted on 08/30/2013 3:17:53 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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30 posted on 08/30/2013 3:18:56 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: grundle
WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is an outrage!

They did the raid supposedly for the children's well being?
What the hell do they think is going to happen to them after being put through trauma like this?

Wake up Germany-you've just resurrected the Nazi's.

31 posted on 08/30/2013 3:30:34 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Pajamajan
"WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is an outrage!"

You're right about that!

"They did the raid supposedly for the children's well being? What the hell do they think is going to happen to them after being put through trauma like this?

Wake up Germany-you've just resurrected the Nazi's."

It's worse than that:

As WND reported, the Romeike case has been submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court. In 2010, an immigration judge granted asylum in the U.S. to the family, which fled Germany because their children were forced to go to public schools.

The Obama administration, unhappy with the outcome, appealed and obtained an order from a higher court that the family must return to Germany.

The Obama administration has argued in court parents essentially have no right to determine how and what their children are taught, leaving the authority with the government.

THAT is an absolute outrage. The Right needs to wake up and really start resisting the excesses and wrongheaded thinking of the 0 administration.
32 posted on 08/30/2013 4:10:14 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: txrefugee

“And our despots in D. C. have just revoked the right of a German Christian family to live in TN, where the had fled when the German government threatened to take their children away because they were homeschooling them on religious grounds.”

Set up an underground railroad to hide them. If Christians can’t do that, they don’t deserve the title Christian.

We set up safehouses during the Tienamen Square incident after that NWO criminal George Bush Sr. threatened to forcibly return Chinese student dissidents here in the US to the tender mercies of the ChiComm murderers in mainland China.


33 posted on 08/30/2013 4:12:05 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Moltke

Since I haven’t seen your other comments, would you mind posting on this thread what legalities and inferences are not quite as represented in the article? I’d appreciate it.


34 posted on 08/30/2013 5:16:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Please read txrefugee's comment. Tyrannies which by very definition are absolutely immoral, hate any children which are not in their grasp to pollute, indoctrinate, and demoralize.

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35 posted on 08/30/2013 5:16:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Coming to a home school in America.

Not likely.


36 posted on 08/30/2013 7:04:50 PM PDT by wita
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To: wita

Think that liberal states like California and Massachusetts haven’t toyed with the idea of banning home schooling?


37 posted on 08/30/2013 7:17:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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If you want to be on this right wing, monarchy, paleolibertarianism and nationalism ping list, but are not, please let me know. If you are on it and want to be off, also let me know.

I am preparing another post on Ilyin. In the meanwhile, here is another scene from the global Sovietization on the march.

38 posted on 08/30/2013 7:45:00 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: darkangel82
Nazi-era law.

Incidentally, someone better compare the state of secondary education in Germany in the 30's and today. We may discover that the public schools in the 30's gave the young Germans better education. Remember, for one thing, Germany was the world leader in science and technology. So Hitler's ban, odious as it was then, probably had better justification than his heirs'.

39 posted on 08/30/2013 7:49:37 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

you can put me on this list.


40 posted on 08/30/2013 7:49:53 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

You ARE on it.


41 posted on 08/30/2013 7:52:14 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’d like to think that government is not toying with anything behind my back. I’d like to think that there is some degree of fear in government circles of what would happen if government goes too far. I’d like to think that neighbors would help were government to arrive at my door attempting to perpetrate dastardly deeds.


42 posted on 08/30/2013 7:53:09 PM PDT by wita
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To: annalex

Well d’uh!!! Lol.


43 posted on 08/30/2013 7:54:58 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: wita

If you think all those things are true, you would be very naive to the point of pollyanna=ish. Obama has shown how easy it is to turn a neutral government into a tool to be used against the people. And we have Congress to thank for creating dozens of alphabet agencies and giving them the power to make laws and then putting them under the charge of the president, who may misuse them at will.


44 posted on 08/30/2013 8:09:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: grundle

Everything bad is ‘Hitler’. Or ‘RASSISSM’. Sigh!


45 posted on 08/30/2013 8:18:26 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I said, I’d like to think.


46 posted on 08/30/2013 8:58:58 PM PDT by wita
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To: Albion Wilde

Amen and Amen.


47 posted on 08/30/2013 9:03:44 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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48 posted on 08/30/2013 9:04:13 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: knarf

It is also interesting that in far too many places the police get their jollies from interfering in the lives of decent citizens going about their business but are too afraid to deal with the real problems.

Example: Raid on homeschoolers. Is that really the biggest problem in that town? No gangs? No drugs? No burglary/theft? No vandalism?

I know of a small town in the US (and I bet there are many just like it) that has been invaded by illegals and thugs from other states. They have taken over one area of town that is infested with drugs and violence. The police never go there because it’s dangerous. Instead, they spend their time raising revenue by writing traffic tickets for little old ladies who fail to signal when turning into the church parking lot for a bake sale or young moms who fail to stop for a full 3 seconds at a stop sign because the kid in the back seat has to pee. Yep, can’t let those dangerous and reckless drivers get away with flouting the traffic laws.

I don’t mean to get off topic, but it’s part of the same pattern. Attack the decent citizens over petty issues and let the thugs get away with murder - literally.


49 posted on 08/30/2013 9:15:36 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Vendome

I hate Illinois Nazis.


50 posted on 08/30/2013 9:17:25 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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