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NSA trove in foreign hands: 58,000 ‘highly classified’ documents, U.K. officials say
The Washington Times ^ | August 30, 2013 | By Shaun Waterman

Posted on 08/30/2013 3:22:05 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

British officials said Friday that the trove of documents taken by National Security Agency leaker Edward J. Snowden, which it seized earlier this week at Heathrow airport, contains more than 58,000 “highly classified UK intelligence documents,” which the government now assumes are in foreign hands.

Oliver Robbins, the deputy national security adviser for intelligence, security and resilience in the Cabinet Office, told a court in London that Mr. Snowden “indiscriminately appropriated material in bulk,” including personal information that would allow British intelligence staff, some serving overseas, to be identified.

The 58,000 documents were among 60 gigabytes of encrypted data seized from David Miranda during a nine hour detention under special terrorism powers Sunday.

Mr. Miranda is the boyfriend of Glen Greenwald, the journalist for Britain’s The Guardian newspaper who has been the conduit for most of Mr. Snowden’s leaks. He was bringing the data to Mr. Greenwald at their home in Brazil when he was detained while changing planes in London.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: nsa; snowden

1 posted on 08/30/2013 3:22:05 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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2 posted on 08/30/2013 3:27:40 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The trustworthyness of this report is somewhere around .2


3 posted on 08/30/2013 3:28:21 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess compartmentalization no longer applies in the era of Big Data if a new hire like Snowden can just copy it onto a thumb drive.


4 posted on 08/30/2013 3:31:30 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: glorgau
The trustworthyness of this report is somewhere around .2

Well it's not good news for Snowden fans but why the low score on trustworthyness? The Washington Times is one of the few good guys in the greater MSM. Plus this is from UK court testimony that could at least theoretically be checked.

5 posted on 08/30/2013 3:38:27 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Menehune56
I guess compartmentalization no longer applies in the era of Big Data if a new hire like Snowden can just copy it onto a thumb drive.

But I, and I assume you, know better. Perhaps it is a lot of files from a very few programs that Snowden had access to.

Regardless, you make a good point.

6 posted on 08/30/2013 3:40:58 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sorry... without absolute proof I will let the track records of liars stand for themselves.

LLS


7 posted on 08/30/2013 3:48:06 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Didn’t Mark Twain say that if you put all your eggs in one basket, you should watch that basket very closely?


8 posted on 08/30/2013 3:50:01 PM PDT by Ken H (First rule of gun safety - have a gun)
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To: maggief; hoosiermama; TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; Nachum; ...

How in the hell does someone download 60GB of classified information. My thoughts are someone or many had to be involved to allow this occur. Just my thoughts based on my experience on protocols or this is bull hockey.


9 posted on 08/30/2013 3:52:09 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Call me 'tin foil hat' or whatever, but it's time people begin to realize that YES, Snowden is the work of our insurgent government.. 0bama, Biden, Kerry, Brennan (pure EVIL), Jarrett (also pure EVIL), and their ilk.. All in power for the purpose of sabotaging America, undermining ALL of our allies, and disclosing to the world all of our national secrets, while keeping under tight wraps facts surrounding Benghazi, IRS, DOJ..

No one can tell me that the overwhelming number of bad things happening to America (BP disaster, Sandy Hoax, Pvt. Manning, Snowden, Boston bombing, compromised stealth drone to IRAN, MB takeover of Egypt, etc) is just pure happenstance. This is all orchestrated, folks, and in the case of Snowden, remember that "flexibility" comment? Is it just happenstance that Snowden would fall under Putin's control shortly after going to Hong Kong? Hell no! 0bama approves! Wake up, America! FReepers too! RETHINK Breitbart's death, Hastings death, the death of 20 SEALs in one helicopter, etc..

SNOWDEN IS A GOVERNMENT-ORCHESTRATED SNOWJOB ON AMERICA.

10 posted on 08/30/2013 3:54:51 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Look into Snowdens connection to the CIA !


11 posted on 08/30/2013 4:04:28 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oddly enough, I think the people most to blame in the Manning and Snowden affairs are not the actual leakers, but those who fouled up horribly in other ways.

For example: Manning had access to a vast library of classified information from numerous government agencies, all neatly consolidated together for ease of use by *anyone* on the system.

This demonstrates a double failure. First, that such information should be compartmentalized for very good reasons. What the State Department and the Pentagon know, are for them to know, and if they share information, they need to do so with much higher level people.

But at some point, someone said, “Hey, we have the technology to do this”, and “it will mean less work”.

And to show how bad this has become, nobody since Manning has seen fit to question “the system” that created the opportunity in the first place. They are still using it, just waiting for the *next* Manning to do the same thing.

As far as the Snowden affair goes, the problem is really Frankensteinian. It began with the idea that “We have the technology to spy on everybody all the time.”

And *nobody* said, “Gee, you know, that is really invasive, unnecessary and inefficient. By paying attention to everyone instead of just known and potential villains, we will miss critical surveillance of them. Terrorists will escape our attention because we are staring at millions of honest people.”

“Shut up”, they explained to him.

So what is Snowden exposing? Unconstitutionally invasive, unnecessary espionage surveillance that is inefficiently directed at “friendly” people who should be ignored.

That this is happening isn’t his fault. That he exposed it, embarrassing the heck out of the US, is actually deserved *by those people* who decided to be obnoxious in the first place.

And America truly needs to put its foot down, and tell the Intelligence community to stop screwing around and get back to doing the work we *want* you to do.


12 posted on 08/30/2013 4:18:26 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Make another James Bond movie...or maybe a Lawrence of Arabia redo.


13 posted on 08/30/2013 4:44:37 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.), Army National Guard, '89-'96)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did the Brits willingly share the data he got or did our folks get it by other means?


14 posted on 08/31/2013 2:54:00 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Menehune56

Compartmentalization still applies, but it seems they overlooked the potential threat of their IT and AIS account managers......basically, they were given NTK privileges because of the potential need to ‘fix’ account/file problems.....


15 posted on 08/31/2013 3:03:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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