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Georgia Passes Law Obstructing Obamacare
http://americanoverlook.com ^ | 8/30/2013

Posted on 08/30/2013 7:29:44 PM PDT by Pfesser

Edited on 08/31/2013 6:35:25 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 08/30/2013 7:29:44 PM PDT by Pfesser
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2 posted on 08/30/2013 7:31:33 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Pfesser

I gotta admit, I’m impressed


3 posted on 08/30/2013 7:31:40 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Pfesser

Gorilla warfare works


4 posted on 08/30/2013 7:35:24 PM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: yldstrk
It'll work until they round up enough people smart enough to pass the test.
5 posted on 08/30/2013 7:35:28 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Bulwinkle

Shhh! You can’t call him that, mate! Only Putin can refer to the obunghole as any sort of ‘ape’ -with a hand grenade. Don’t you read the news?


6 posted on 08/30/2013 7:40:36 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Pfesser

Why not just pass a law requiring all health insurance companies to pay the insured directly?

This would do 2 things...

1. It would re-engage market forces in the health care industry

2. The fed would not be able to pay health care providers, and thus would not be able to control them.


7 posted on 08/30/2013 7:41:47 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: yldstrk

it’s as clever aswhat the libtards would do. so anything that makes them taste their own medicine, and works, i am for it.


8 posted on 08/30/2013 7:48:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Pfesser
If Virginia doesn't do the same, I plan to make my navigator's life miserable.

I'll just call and scream hysterically that I just severed my hand or something and need a bronze plan immediately.
9 posted on 08/30/2013 7:50:27 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Pfesser

Earlier this month, Georgia discovered a way to obstruct the implementation of Obamacare, causing Democrats across the country to condemn the state’s Department of Insurance for obstructing President Barack Obama’s beloved Affordable Care Act.


These Dems should be condemning Obama for exempting his friends from Obamacare


10 posted on 08/30/2013 7:53:47 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Husker24

From the ones that they been rounding up (former Acorn geniuses) I doubt there is much chance they could pass a test to become a licensed pedestrian.


11 posted on 08/30/2013 7:54:55 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives are never accountable for "unintended consequences" .... just for causing most)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Lol. That is good.


12 posted on 08/30/2013 7:56:02 PM PDT by txmissy
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To: Pfesser

Gotta love my state!


13 posted on 08/30/2013 7:56:37 PM PDT by melissa_in_ga (Laz would hit it.)
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To: Pfesser

I must be really dense. How does this obstruct Obamacare?


14 posted on 08/30/2013 7:58:43 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Pfesser

Can they require them to read the law as well?


15 posted on 08/30/2013 7:59:09 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Bulwinkle

This is quite good,so many options,hmm?


16 posted on 08/30/2013 8:02:36 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: melissa_in_ga

Governor Deal is doing a good job. When he was a Congressman from my district, he sent Obozo a letter asking for proof that obozo was Constitutionally qualified to be President. Deal never got a response.


17 posted on 08/30/2013 8:14:33 PM PDT by Pfesser (I miss President Reagan.)
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To: gitmo

Currently the navigators are your Acorn, Planned parenthood, United Way, community organizers with no experience in insurance at all. Many have said they will not have background checks but will be able to see private information.

If they have to be licensed insurance agents, they will have to go through the required training and likely have background checks.

Betsy -the famous guru on health care - said that Obamacare will fund community organizers for decades to come.

One other thing is that Obamacare is designed to run the insurance companies out of business.


18 posted on 08/30/2013 8:14:39 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Thank you. The article should have spelled that out.


19 posted on 08/30/2013 8:16:52 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: musicman

Go Gawja!! HooRah!!


20 posted on 08/30/2013 8:24:14 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 83)
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To: FreedomPoster
Ping.

In early August, Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens explained the obstruction method to a crowd of enthusiastic Georgians.

I'm so glad we got rid of Oxendine.

21 posted on 08/30/2013 8:24:55 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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22 posted on 08/30/2013 8:30:37 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: willibeaux

BUMP!


23 posted on 08/30/2013 8:31:09 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Pfesser

If it isnt erased by the Supremes it should work across the board no?

Thank You Georgia!


24 posted on 08/30/2013 8:44:13 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: Pfesser
Regulating healthcare is not an enumerated power granted to Congress in Article I Section VIII of the Constitution. It is unconstitutional on the federal level as it is a power reserved to the states or to the people per the 10th Amendment. People simply need to nullify any unconstitutional act of the federal government. See www.nullifynow.com for more information.
25 posted on 08/30/2013 8:45:50 PM PDT by Sherman Hale
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To: Pfesser
Is this a realistic option to obstruct Obamacare?

IMHO, we should be doing everything we can to stop this disaster. Not delay it, STOP it, dead in it's tracks.

The idea of federalizing 1/6 of the US economy is nuts.

26 posted on 08/30/2013 8:45:51 PM PDT by upchuck (The nobama regime: a string of omnishambles that stretches, seemingly, to infinity.)
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27 posted on 08/30/2013 9:20:30 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: gitmo

It doesn’t. It jus slows down the implementation a bit.


28 posted on 08/30/2013 9:27:09 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Pfesser

My district as well and so glad to have campaigned for him for Gov.He did what his constituents asked of him.How refreshing.


29 posted on 08/30/2013 11:46:38 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Thrownatbirth
I'll just call and scream hysterically that I just severed my hand or something and need a bronze plan immediately

Ah ... you must not have read the fine print at the end of the unaffordable care act .... The health and human resources secretary has to make you an appointment at the emergency room. Normally takes six months to a year, so you could lose your hand.

30 posted on 08/31/2013 12:02:05 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: gitmo

>>>I must be really dense. How does this obstruct Obamacare?

If I understand the article correctly, Georgia will require potential Obamacare Exchange employees to take the same examination that a trained insurance agent would have to take . . . despite the fact the potential Exchange employees have zero training in being an insurance agent: they’ve taken no courses on the subject, read no books on it, etc.

Georgia will do three things: 1) Require potential Exchange employees to become “Navigators”; 2) Require them to take the examination for becoming a licensed insurance agent: and 3) Change the name of the examination from “Insurance Agent Examination” to “Navigator Examination.” It’s Georgia’s examination; they can call it anything they want.

It’s also based on some demographic savvy as to who the potential Exchange employees are likely to be: probably ACORN types, community organizers, et al. What are the odds that such people will muster the self-discipline and ambition to take the same educational route that someone wanting to be an actual insurance agent would take, especially for the sake of passing what is probably a long, tough, boring licensing examination? Shall we say “slim”?

It’s a clever idea. I very much hope it works.


31 posted on 08/31/2013 12:27:14 AM PDT by GoodDay
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To: Pan_Yan; AnAmericanMother; Broker; clee1; ctdonath2; dansangel; Dick Bachert; DJlaysitup; epow; ...

GA FReeper ping. This is a very interesting item. Don’t miss the comments at 18 and 31.


32 posted on 08/31/2013 1:48:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Pfesser

God bless Hudgens! I hope he can make it stick!


33 posted on 08/31/2013 2:12:03 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Pfesser

First of all, the link that you have labelled as being “fox news” does not go to fox news, it goes to something called “american overlook”. It is an undated and unattributed article.

Second of all, there have been no “recent” laws passed in Georgia. The 2013 session of the Georgia General Assembly ended on March 28.

Here is a link to information on House Bill 198:
http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/display/20132014/HB/198

Here is a link to a “real” news article from back in April that gives much more information:
http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/health/2013-04-21/georgia-other-states-seek-licensing-health-reform-outreach

“...Georgia is among about 20 states attempting to restrict a key outreach program for the Affordable Care Act...”

“...The bill would require those who want to serve as navigators or provide advice about enrolling in the health insurance exchanges to be licensed and to have “not less than 35 hours of instruction in health benefit insurance,” in how the exchanges work and knowledge of Georgia Medicaid and PeachCare...”

“...Whether the laws can be enforced is another question. Proposed federal regulations on implementing the navigator program published earlier this month note that while navigators must meet state licensing or certification requirements, those requirements “should not prevent the application of the provisions” of the Affordable Care Act...”


34 posted on 08/31/2013 2:15:13 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Husker24

“It’ll work until they round up enough people smart enough to pass the test”

Which will probably be current Ins. brokers once Bambicare drives all the Ins Company’s broke.


35 posted on 08/31/2013 2:30:39 AM PDT by DAC21
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Not realistic,
it’s a tiny speed bump.
NJ’s health insurance agent licensing is one of the four hardest in the country.
It only takes 3 days of 8 hour classes and passing a school’s in house exam and the state licensure test to become a health insurance agent.

However, in Georgia, there are only these requirements:

Accident & Health
20-hour Accident and Sickness course taken within last 12 months
Company CA required after licensure
Fees $15+$50

Of the 20 hours of coursework, maybe 80% to 95% is already in the required Navigator training curriculum.
Since the Navigators are required to take 24 to 96 hours of training anyway (depending on the state), adding a few hours of State required Insurance Law coursework is not a big deal, and was explicitly written into ACA as an option for the states to continue to properly regulate their insurance markets.

In short, this added a 20 hour a year continuing education coursework requirement for Navigators, which the Insurance industry has been pushing for anyway, added a few hours of Georgia specific Insurance law to the training, and added another layer of State bureaucracy and fees to the Navigator career path.


36 posted on 08/31/2013 2:58:17 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Safrguns

That’s a great idea...eliminate the bed - eliminate the bed bugs.


37 posted on 08/31/2013 3:02:49 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Whenifhow

Careful about the rhetoric,
ACA specifically allowed states to implement any type of reasonable oversight and regulation of their insurance market, including background checks, licensure, continuing education requirements, etc on the personnel in the industry, be it a Ins Co employee, an independent broker, or Navigator.

Georgia was just the first to implement what will become a national standard within a few years.

Licensing is a form of monopoly power by the state and the licensed to prevent new competition. If the radical leftists can be the first to market as the Navigators for the state, it will be exceedingly difficult to ever displace them as a market force. In the end, the radicals who soaked up the last 3 years of ACA Naiagtor grants are going to love these laws, it’s permanently elevates their positions with the barrier of entry for competitors in the form of licensing reqs.


38 posted on 08/31/2013 3:04:08 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: GoodDay

Cusps to you if you were able to glean that from the article. I read it several times and hit a dry well.
Of course I spent days this week in mind-numbing classes on tax law implementation. And that is NOT my area at all. So perhaps my mind has been turned to mush.


39 posted on 08/31/2013 3:08:47 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: gitmo; GoodDay

That should say Cudos not cusps. DYAC.


40 posted on 08/31/2013 3:09:55 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: upchuck

“IMHO, we should be doing everything we can to stop this disaster. Not delay it, STOP it, dead in it’s tracks.The idea of federalizing 1/6 of the US economy is nuts.”

Unfortunately the uniparty is not going to lift a finger to stop it. They’re in pretty much perfect agreement that boehnercare is the way to go. So we’ll get to do what we can with what we have.


41 posted on 08/31/2013 3:44:45 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: yldstrk

I don’t get it. Please explain it to me.


42 posted on 08/31/2013 4:01:09 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: musicman

Bravo!


43 posted on 08/31/2013 4:10:32 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Husker24

The insurance companies pushed this travesty. Agents I’ve spoken with think it will put them out of business. I wonder if they’ll help


44 posted on 08/31/2013 4:14:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: FES0844

insurance agent test....

Format the test in cursive.


45 posted on 08/31/2013 4:15:09 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Secret Agent Man
it’s as clever aswhat the libtards would do. so anything that makes them taste their own medicine, and works, i am for it.

By the same means, some activist judge could "nullify" this law. You know the drill; the law is racist, sexist, homophobic, therefore it is (liberal pretzel logic) unconstitutional.

46 posted on 08/31/2013 4:48:07 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: driftdiver
The insurance companies pushed this travesty. Agents I’ve spoken with think it will put them out of business.

Why'd they push this? What's in it for them, if they go out of business or are (ultimately) replaced by 0Care?

47 posted on 08/31/2013 5:13:44 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: gitmo

I am guessing obamacare supporters can’t pass the test?


48 posted on 08/31/2013 5:28:33 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Pfesser

American Overlook, whatever that is, is not Fox News. For one thing, both the TV and the web editions of Fox News feature better writers.


49 posted on 08/31/2013 5:56:14 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: melissa_in_ga

Gotta love my state!


With a republican led legislature (after the 2012 election gained almost a super majority) Georgia has done a few things right including:

- passed voter ID law and made Eric Holder/Obama back down
- passed stricter state immigration enforcement (a lot of illegals fled the state)


50 posted on 08/31/2013 6:40:52 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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