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1 posted on 08/31/2013 2:50:50 AM PDT by rawhide
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Here is a follow-on video interview with the victim of this incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNwTzaKd44U


2 posted on 08/31/2013 2:51:03 AM PDT by rawhide
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That driver on the receiving end was as cool as ice.

I don't think I would have stuck around with someone that violent kicking my car door in. At any second he could have picked up a rock or some other weapon and done some real damage.

5 posted on 08/31/2013 3:07:05 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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Roid rage more likely.


6 posted on 08/31/2013 3:13:57 AM PDT by RC one
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His DI taught him well!


7 posted on 08/31/2013 3:57:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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I suspect that the young sergeant will have to pay the price for his tantrum. His CO will see this video and he’ll probably get an Article 15 or a summary court martial out of this.

We don’t do a good job of helping people come back out of our wars.


8 posted on 08/31/2013 4:05:42 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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I think back on my service, the environments in which I operated (Naval aviation, carrier flight ops), and the few, but disturbing, times I became uncontrollably enraged. Not excusable, but high tempo military ops in peacetime or war are extremely stressful and at times result in this. The Marine had two combat tours, was wounded, and is facing separation from the Corps because of his wounds. He feels betrayed by his chain of command; gave it his all, and his superiors are going to thank him by derailing his career. And believe it, loyalty up frequently is not rewarded with loyalty down in the risk-averse, PC, homo-centric armed forces. He is responsible and to blame for the incident; should be disciplined, but also given a chance to get things right and continue to serve.
9 posted on 08/31/2013 4:13:18 AM PDT by twister881
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That’s going to cost him, maybe a stripe. He needs help.


10 posted on 08/31/2013 4:21:11 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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Has this Marine seen too much combat? Or is he just a worthless punk? Both seem to be distinctly possible to me.
12 posted on 08/31/2013 5:00:55 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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That young man has some serious mental problems.

For rage to go on that long is not normal.

Looks like some other marines with good sense came along and tried to quiet him.


15 posted on 08/31/2013 5:09:16 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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So, what did the other guy do to enrage the Marine?


16 posted on 08/31/2013 5:09:30 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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No different then a Chicago gang member.


17 posted on 08/31/2013 5:10:55 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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Bookmarking


18 posted on 08/31/2013 5:11:10 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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Seriously, I’ve had road rage from time to time. But nothing like this. Sure, I’ve wanted to duke it out when really ticked off and I think the other guy is being a jerk.

Now, after seeing this, I realize something. I NEVER want to blame another person making me act like this. If I act like this, it is MY problem.

I’m glad I saw this. Maybe God is trying to tell me something. I am listening!


26 posted on 08/31/2013 7:38:42 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Not only was his reaction and behavior way over the top given that it was a very minor fender bender, that he continued, threatened, cursed at, kicked the other car (and I would presume causing damage) and even as others stepped in, including another man in uniform, that he continued his profanity laced rage, I’d say the guy has a real problem. Whether that problem is service related (PSD) or just an indication of him being an a-hole is yet to be determined.

I’ve gotten very angry at other drivers. Just the other week for instance while driving to work, I had signaled and moved over to a designated left hand turn lane when I notice that the car right beside me who only a second before had been behind me, was moving left and over toward me and into my lane. I blew my horn and even made eye contact with her but she just kept coming over. To avoid getting hit by her (an older white woman BTW, FWIW), I both sped up and for a time crossed the double yellow line to avoid her hitting the left side of my car, and fortunately there was only one car in the oncoming lane and he saw what was happening and swerved to avoid me.

When we got to the traffic light, I looked in my rear view mirror and there she was right behind me, right up on my bumper and shaking her head and shaking her finger and fist at me as if I was the one who was in the wrong. I was really tempted to get out of my car and walk up to her and give her a good piece of my mind but instead, I took a deep breath, said the Serenity Prayer, and looked in my rear view and just shook my head and mouthed “You just can’t fix stupid” and went about my day.

About a year ago I was babysitting my nephew’s kids at his house. We were just about to get hit by a severe thunderstorm and I was just about to get the little ones ready for bed when I heard a loud knock at the door. I couldn’t help thinking: “Isn’t this how a lot of horror movies begin?” – LOL The dog started barking and the baby started crying and I went to the window at the front door to see who was knocking.

A 30-ish looking guy was standing on the porch and I yelled through the window, “Can I help you?” He said “I think I hit your car”. And sure enough I looked and saw that the back end of his pickup truck had slammed into the back of my car. “OK. Give me a minute” I said and I calmed the baby and the dog down, grabbed my keys and my cell phone (set to dial 9-11 just in case) and went out on the porch. He told me that he was dropping his son off at his ex-wife’s house across the street and backed out of her drive way and hit that back of my car. I saw a woman standing on the porch of the house across the street and recognized her as someone I’d seen at my nephew’s house for BBQ’s and kid’s birthday parties and I yelled over to her: “Do you know him?” “Yes” she said, “He’s my ex husband” so I figured he probably wasn’t some psycho killer so I invited him to come inside as it was now really storming badly – many lightning bolts, heavy wind and rain.

He apologized profusely, telling me he had parked his pickup truck in his ex–wife’s driveway, had just dropped their son off and was backing out and hit my car which was parked across the street in front of my nephew’s house.

He kept saying “I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, I can’t believe I did that. I’m so sorry. I’m so stupid, I’m so sorry. I didn’t see your car, I’m so sorry”. It was evident the guy was really shook up so I told him, “It’s OK. That’s why we call them “accidents” and not “on-purposes”.

He next asked me what he needed to do - it was obvious the guy had never had an accident before. So I told him that I would need to get his insurance and contact information, that I would give him mine, that he needed to contact his insurance company ASAP and inform them of the accident and what happened and that I would do the same with mine and provide my insurance company with his insurance and contact information and that since I was not at fault, that his insurance company would settle the claim and pay to repair any damages to both our vehicles, that the worst thing that might happen was his insurance rate might go up.

He looked rather shocked and said, “Don’t you need to call the police?” to which I said “No”. “No one was injured - you’re not injured are you?” “No.” he said. “Did you hit my car on purpose? Are you drunk?” (And FWIW I didn’t smell any odor of alcohol on him) to which he said “Oh goodness no! Oh God no! I was bringing my son home from our church’s Bible camp – my wife and I are divorced and she is remarried but we get along and we want to do right by our son”. And then he apologized yet again.

At this point and since I hadn’t been able to go look at the damage to my car what with the thunderstorm and not wanting to leave my little great nieces alone in the house, I figured it was just minor damage. He gave me his driver’s license and his insurance card and I copied down all the information and got his address and cell phone number and then told him, “It’s OK. I once rear ended a car stopped at a stop sign. I didn’t mean to do it but for an instant I wasn’t paying attention. These things happen; again this is why we call them “accidents”” I felt more bad for him than I did for myself.

The next morning I was finally able to see the damage and it was pretty extensive – a lot more than I thought it would be – rear bumper smashed, left side tail light was smashed and pushed all the way into the trunk, rear quarter panel smashed and the wheel well guard displaced and against the left side rear tire. The car was drivable but I kept hearing a rubbing noise when the wheel well guard hit my tire when going over bumps in the road. Before I moved my car, I took lots of photos with my cell phone and called my insurance company.

Long story short, his insurance company was great – gave me no problems, I even got to use a certified Toyota body shop for the repairs and genuine Toyota replacement parts and they paid for a decent rental car for the week and a half that my car was in the repair shop.

As it all turned out OK, I can say I was glad I remained calm and composed, that it wasn’t worth getting angry over or cursing at someone who already felt bad enough already.

31 posted on 08/31/2013 1:34:09 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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